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Old 12-09-2007, 10:50 AM
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]
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Tips: How Microsoft Office is licensed

I have seen a conversation taking place in one of the online forums about
how Microsoft Office is licensed and how secondary use rights fits in. To
that end, I thought I would post this information here to address the
question and for others to use in their understanding of this. Here are the
basics:

a.. Microsoft Office is licensed on a per device bases. What this means is
you need a Microsoft Office license for every device that is going to run
Office.
b.. Microsoft Office is not licensed on a concurrent basis, which means it
is not based on the number of devices running Office at one given time, it
is based on the total number of devices that run Office. For instance, if
you have 10 PCs in your company and want to run Office on all of them;
however, only 5 PCs will use Office at any one given time, you will need 10
Microsoft Office licenses since you have 10 total devices that will run
Office, not just 5.
c.. If you plan to run Microsoft Office from a network device such as a
file server or through something like Citrix or Terminal Services, make sure
your Office license has Network Storage and Use Rights. As discussed in many
prior posts, there are differences in licensing rights between OEM, Retail
Box, and Volume Licenses for Microsoft products. Network Storage and Use is
one of those rights, as is Downgrade Rights, and Transfer Rights. Volume
licensing does provide these rights; whereas, OEM Office licenses do not.
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:30 AM
Mike Brannigan
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Re: How Microsoft Office is licensed

Andre,

If you must post tips to this group - keep then relevant to the group. This
Office licensing commentary should have been kept to the Office groups.
I realize you are trying to be helpful but this opens up the thin end of the
wedge of what is and what is not suitable for this group. If we just stick
to the topic of the groups then these problems do not arise.
--
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"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25********.com> wrote in message
news:e1ng$LpOIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I have seen a conversation taking place in one of the online forums about
>how Microsoft Office is licensed and how secondary use rights fits in. To
>that end, I thought I would post this information here to address the
>question and for others to use in their understanding of this. Here are the
>basics:
>
> a.. Microsoft Office is licensed on a per device bases. What this means
> is you need a Microsoft Office license for every device that is going to
> run Office.
> b.. Microsoft Office is not licensed on a concurrent basis, which means
> it is not based on the number of devices running Office at one given time,
> it is based on the total number of devices that run Office. For instance,
> if you have 10 PCs in your company and want to run Office on all of them;
> however, only 5 PCs will use Office at any one given time, you will need
> 10 Microsoft Office licenses since you have 10 total devices that will run
> Office, not just 5.
> c.. If you plan to run Microsoft Office from a network device such as a
> file server or through something like Citrix or Terminal Services, make
> sure your Office license has Network Storage and Use Rights. As discussed
> in many prior posts, there are differences in licensing rights between
> OEM, Retail Box, and Volume Licenses for Microsoft products. Network
> Storage and Use is one of those rights, as is Downgrade Rights, and
> Transfer Rights. Volume licensing does provide these rights; whereas, OEM
> Office licenses do not.
> [url]http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=41872&Group=1[/url]
> --
> Andre
> Blog: [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com[/url]
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry[/url]
>[/color]

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Old 12-09-2007, 11:40 AM
Alias
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Re: How Microsoft Office is licensed

Mike Brannigan wrote:[color=blue]
> Andre,
>
> If you must post tips to this group - keep then relevant to the group.
> This Office licensing commentary should have been kept to the Office
> groups.
> I realize you are trying to be helpful but this opens up the thin end of
> the wedge of what is and what is not suitable for this group. If we
> just stick to the topic of the groups then these problems do not arise.[/color]

Problem: Net nannies like Mike.

Solution: ignore Mike and post whatever your little heart desires.

Alias
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:50 AM
Frank
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Re: How Microsoft Office is licensed

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Mike Brannigan wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Andre,
>>
>> If you must post tips to this group - keep then relevant to the
>> group. This Office licensing commentary should have been kept to the
>> Office groups.
>> I realize you are trying to be helpful but this opens up the thin end
>> of the wedge of what is and what is not suitable for this group. If
>> we just stick to the topic of the groups then these problems do not
>> arise.[/color]
>
>
> Problem: Net nannies like Mike.
>
> Solution: ignore Mike and post whatever your little heart desires.
>
> Alias[/color]

Translation: alias is a known linux lyin troll and doesn't give a sh*t
about anyone except himself.
He practicing good "karma"...lol!
Frank
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Old 12-09-2007, 01:30 PM
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Re: Tips: How Microsoft Office is licensed

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
[color=blue]
> I have seen a conversation taking place in one of the online forums about
> how Microsoft Office is licensed and how secondary use rights fits in. To
> that end, I thought I would post this information here to address the
> question and for others to use in their understanding of this. Here are
> the basics:
>
> a.. Microsoft Office is licensed on a per device bases. What this means
> is
> you need a Microsoft Office license for every device that is going to run
> Office.[/color]

Darn it, I was so hoping I could run MickeyMouse Office on my laser printer
or the very least my MickeyMouse mouse.
[color=blue]
> b.. Microsoft Office is not licensed on a concurrent basis, which means
> it
> is not based on the number of devices running Office at one given time, it
> is based on the total number of devices that run Office. For instance, if
> you have 10 PCs in your company and want to run Office on all of them;
> however, only 5 PCs will use Office at any one given time, you will need
> 10 Microsoft Office licenses since you have 10 total devices that will run
> Office, not just 5.[/color]

Of course... MickeyMouse can never be too rich.
[color=blue]
> c.. If you plan to run Microsoft Office from a network device such as a
> file server or through something like Citrix or Terminal Services, make
> sure your Office license has Network Storage and Use Rights. As discussed
> in many prior posts, there are differences in licensing rights between
> OEM, Retail Box, and Volume Licenses for Microsoft products. Network
> Storage and Use is one of those rights, as is Downgrade Rights, and
> Transfer Rights. Volume licensing does provide these rights; whereas, OEM
> Office licenses do not.[/color]

Yep, lots of different licenses ... just enuf to keep the average Wintard
totally confused and spending more money. It's the MickeyMouse way.
[color=blue]
> [url]http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=41872&Group=1[/url][/color]

Thanks for the silly update. Now we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, why
Open Office is the better alternative.

Cheers.


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Old 12-09-2007, 01:40 PM
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Re: How Microsoft Office is licensed

Mike Brannigan wrote:
[color=blue]
> Andre,
>
> If you must post tips to this group - keep then relevant to the group.[/color]

Especially hot topics like where's that **** bomb in Minesweeper?
[color=blue]
> This Office licensing commentary should have been kept to the Office
> groups. I realize you are trying to be helpful but this opens up the thin
> end of the
> wedge of what is and what is not suitable for this group. If we just
> stick to the topic of the groups then these problems do not arise.[/color]

If you'd learn how to post on Usenet, other problems would not arise either.

Cheers.

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Old 12-09-2007, 01:40 PM
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]
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Re: How Microsoft Office is licensed

Actually it is relevant, just the other person asked in this same group if
they can run a single licensed copy of Office on their Vista desktop and
laptop. An MVP responded by saying you can run Office concurrently without
voiding the license, this was not true. Office is product that goes hand in
hand with Windows for many users, clearing up licensing misconceptions is
not considered irrelevant.
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"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:4665F954-49B5-43DD-87AB-E6D12BCAE242@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Andre,
>
> If you must post tips to this group - keep then relevant to the group.
> This Office licensing commentary should have been kept to the Office
> groups.
> I realize you are trying to be helpful but this opens up the thin end of
> the wedge of what is and what is not suitable for this group. If we just
> stick to the topic of the groups then these problems do not arise.
> --
> Mike Brannigan
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25********.com> wrote in message
> news:e1ng$LpOIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I have seen a conversation taking place in one of the online forums about
>>how Microsoft Office is licensed and how secondary use rights fits in. To
>>that end, I thought I would post this information here to address the
>>question and for others to use in their understanding of this. Here are
>>the basics:
>>
>> a.. Microsoft Office is licensed on a per device bases. What this means
>> is you need a Microsoft Office license for every device that is going to
>> run Office.
>> b.. Microsoft Office is not licensed on a concurrent basis, which means
>> it is not based on the number of devices running Office at one given
>> time, it is based on the total number of devices that run Office. For
>> instance, if you have 10 PCs in your company and want to run Office on
>> all of them; however, only 5 PCs will use Office at any one given time,
>> you will need 10 Microsoft Office licenses since you have 10 total
>> devices that will run Office, not just 5.
>> c.. If you plan to run Microsoft Office from a network device such as a
>> file server or through something like Citrix or Terminal Services, make
>> sure your Office license has Network Storage and Use Rights. As discussed
>> in many prior posts, there are differences in licensing rights between
>> OEM, Retail Box, and Volume Licenses for Microsoft products. Network
>> Storage and Use is one of those rights, as is Downgrade Rights, and
>> Transfer Rights. Volume licensing does provide these rights; whereas, OEM
>> Office licenses do not.
>> [url]http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=41872&Group=1[/url]
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com[/url]
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry[/url]
>>[/color]
>[/color]


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Old 12-09-2007, 02:00 PM
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Updated Solution


"Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message news:fjhfhq$epo$3@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Mike Brannigan wrote:[color=green]
>> Andre,
>>
>> If you must post tips to this group - keep then relevant to the group.
>> This Office licensing commentary should have been kept to the Office
>> groups.
>> I realize you are trying to be helpful but this opens up the thin end of
>> the wedge of what is and what is not suitable for this group. If we just
>> stick to the topic of the groups then these problems do not arise.[/color]
>
> Problem: Net nannies like Mike.
>
> Solution: ignore Mike and post whatever your little heart desires.
>
> Alias[/color]

Updated solution. Ignore Alias because he will direct you to OpenSores
Office which is totally inferior, then he will advise you to dump Windows
and install the crappy Ubuntu. Just FYI


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Old 12-09-2007, 02:00 PM
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Re: How Microsoft Office is licensed

You seem to miss the fact Most retail Office allow installation on a
desktop and a portable when the portable is primarily used by the same
individual.

Also Student and Teacher 2007 allows installation on 3 computers used
by the same family.
Some earlier S+T also had licenses that permitted install on multiple
computers.

Your post seems to ignore these facts which are at least as relevant.

Read the specific license for applicability and details.

In both cases above, there is one license on multiple computers.

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"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25********.com> wrote in message
news:ezE26vqOIHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Actually it is relevant, just the other person asked in this same
> group if they can run a single licensed copy of Office on their
> Vista desktop and laptop. An MVP responded by saying you can run
> Office concurrently without voiding the license, this was not true.
> Office is product that goes hand in hand with Windows for many
> users, clearing up licensing misconceptions is not considered
> irrelevant.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com[/url]
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> [url]http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry[/url][/color]

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Old 12-09-2007, 02:20 PM
Frank
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Re: How Microsoft Office is licensed

NoStop wrote:
[color=blue]
> Mike Brannigan wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Andre,
>>
>>If you must post tips to this group - keep then relevant to the group.[/color]
>
>
> Especially hot topics like where's that **** bomb in Minesweeper?
>
>[color=green]
>>This Office licensing commentary should have been kept to the Office
>>groups. I realize you are trying to be helpful but this opens up the thin
>>end of the
>>wedge of what is and what is not suitable for this group. If we just
>>stick to the topic of the groups then these problems do not arise.[/color]
>
>
> If you'd learn how to post on Usenet, other problems would not arise either.
>[/color]

Good idea doris. Learn how to use Usenet and stop making a fool out of
yourself, you trolling cross-dressing lying linux loser.
Frank

Yeah...Cheers you idiot.

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Old 12-09-2007, 02:30 PM
Frank
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Re: Tips: How Microsoft Office is licensed

NoStop wrote:
[color=blue]
> Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>I have seen a conversation taking place in one of the online forums about
>>how Microsoft Office is licensed and how secondary use rights fits in. To
>>that end, I thought I would post this information here to address the
>>question and for others to use in their understanding of this. Here are
>>the basics:
>>
>> a.. Microsoft Office is licensed on a per device bases. What this means
>> is
>>you need a Microsoft Office license for every device that is going to run
>>Office.[/color]
>
>
> Darn it, I was so hoping I could run MickeyMouse Office on my laser printer
> or the very least my MickeyMouse mouse.
>
>[color=green]
>> b.. Microsoft Office is not licensed on a concurrent basis, which means
>> it
>>is not based on the number of devices running Office at one given time, it
>>is based on the total number of devices that run Office. For instance, if
>>you have 10 PCs in your company and want to run Office on all of them;
>>however, only 5 PCs will use Office at any one given time, you will need
>>10 Microsoft Office licenses since you have 10 total devices that will run
>>Office, not just 5.[/color]
>
>
> Of course... MickeyMouse can never be too rich.
>
>[color=green]
>> c.. If you plan to run Microsoft Office from a network device such as a
>>file server or through something like Citrix or Terminal Services, make
>>sure your Office license has Network Storage and Use Rights. As discussed
>>in many prior posts, there are differences in licensing rights between
>>OEM, Retail Box, and Volume Licenses for Microsoft products. Network
>>Storage and Use is one of those rights, as is Downgrade Rights, and
>>Transfer Rights. Volume licensing does provide these rights; whereas, OEM
>>Office licenses do not.[/color]
>
>
> Yep, lots of different licenses ... just enuf to keep the average Wintard
> totally confused and spending more money. It's the MickeyMouse way.
>
>[color=green]
>>[url]http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=41872&Group=1[/url][/color]
>
>
> Thanks for the silly update. Now we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, why
> Open Office is the better alternative.
>
> Cheers.
>
>[/color]


Open Orifice is always better for a cross-dressing lying linux POS troll
like you, right doris?
Moron!
Frank

oh, I almost forgot...cheers you idiot!
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:30 PM
The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
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Re: How Microsoft Office is licensed

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:[color=blue]
> Actually it is relevant, just the other person asked in this same group if
> they can run a single licensed copy of Office on their Vista desktop and
> laptop. An MVP responded by saying you can run Office concurrently without
> voiding the license, this was not true. Office is product that goes hand in
> hand with Windows for many users, clearing up licensing misconceptions is
> not considered irrelevant.[/color]

It is my opinion that people ask here about office because it comes
installed on their OEM box. They have no knowledge that it is a
different program than windows. You posting that info here may continue
to their ignorance.

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:4665F954-49B5-43DD-87AB-E6D12BCAE242@microsoft.com...[color=blue][color=green]
> > Andre,
> >
> > If you must post tips to this group - keep then relevant to the group.
> > This Office licensing commentary should have been kept to the Office
> > groups.
> > I realize you are trying to be helpful but this opens up the thin[/color][/color]
end of[color=blue][color=green]
> > the wedge of what is and what is not suitable for this group. If[/color][/color]
we just[color=blue][color=green]
> > stick to the topic of the groups then these problems do not arise.
> >[/color][/color]

That being said, this is a vista group, not a net nannies group so Mike
posting that something is off topic is off topic in the vista group.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25********.com> wrote in message
> > news:e1ng$LpOIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> >>I have seen a conversation taking place in one of the online[/color][/color][/color]
forums about[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >>how Microsoft Office is licensed and how secondary use rights fits[/color][/color][/color]
in. To[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >>that end, I thought I would post this information here to address the
>> >>question and for others to use in their understanding of this.[/color][/color][/color]
Here are[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >>the basics:
>> >>
>> >> a.. Microsoft Office is licensed on a per device bases. What[/color][/color][/color]
this means[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> is you need a Microsoft Office license for every device that is[/color][/color][/color]
going to[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> run Office.
>> >> b.. Microsoft Office is not licensed on a concurrent basis,[/color][/color][/color]
which means[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> it is not based on the number of devices running Office at one given
>> >> time, it is based on the total number of devices that run Office.[/color][/color][/color]
For[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> instance, if you have 10 PCs in your company and want to run[/color][/color][/color]
Office on[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> all of them; however, only 5 PCs will use Office at any one given[/color][/color][/color]
time,[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> you will need 10 Microsoft Office licenses since you have 10 total
>> >> devices that will run Office, not just 5.
>> >> c.. If you plan to run Microsoft Office from a network device[/color][/color][/color]
such as a[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> file server or through something like Citrix or Terminal[/color][/color][/color]
Services, make[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> sure your Office license has Network Storage and Use Rights. As[/color][/color][/color]
discussed[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> in many prior posts, there are differences in licensing rights[/color][/color][/color]
between[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> OEM, Retail Box, and Volume Licenses for Microsoft products. Network
>> >> Storage and Use is one of those rights, as is Downgrade Rights, and
>> >> Transfer Rights. Volume licensing does provide these rights;[/color][/color][/color]
whereas, OEM[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >> Office licenses do not.[/color][/color][/color]

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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:[color=blue]
> You seem to miss the fact Most retail Office allow installation on a
> desktop and a portable when the portable is primarily used by the same
> individual.
>
> Also Student and Teacher 2007 allows installation on 3 computers used by
> the same family.
> Some earlier S+T also had licenses that permitted install on multiple
> computers.
>
> Your post seems to ignore these facts which are at least as relevant.
>
> Read the specific license for applicability and details.
>
> In both cases above, there is one license on multiple computers.
>[/color]

Good point, JJ. Andre posting incorrect information in these groups is
going to make him look like Carey soon.

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25********.com> wrote in message
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> Actually it is relevant, just the other person asked in this same
> group if they can run a single licensed copy of Office on their Vista
> desktop and laptop. An MVP responded by saying you can run Office
> concurrently without voiding the license, this was not true. Office is
> product that goes hand in hand with Windows for many users, clearing
> up licensing misconceptions is not considered irrelevant.[/color]


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