I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of 3.8
When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating reduced to
1.0

1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?

Is there a fix other than not installing that update?

ChuckN wrote:[color=blue]
> I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of 3.8
> When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating reduced
> to 1.0
>
> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.[/color]

Because MS isn't nVidia, of course.
[color=blue]
> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?[/color]

Because they don't give a sh¡t about their paying customers.
[color=blue]
> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]

Best to get driver updates from nVidia, not Microsoft. After all,
Microsoft didn't make your graphics card, nVidia did. Now, roll back the
driver and visit [url]www.nvidia.com[/url] and get a proper driver for your card.

Alias

NEVER allow Windows Update to install hardware drivers, especially graphics card
drivers.

Go to nVidia and download and install the latest drivers.

[url]http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us[/url]


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"ChuckN" <Chuck@newmanArchitecture.com> wrote in message
news:A0F62289-C021-4273-BC1C-6FC078A0603D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of 3.8 When
>Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating reduced to 1.0
>
> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?
>
> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]

Microsoft "releases" that which is supplied to them by the various hardware
manufacturers. That being said, you really should be getting your drivers
direct from the hardware manufacturers web site.

I have an Nvidia 6600. My graphics score is 3.9 with the default drivers
included with Vista. With the adding of any newer drivers, the graphics
score drops 1-2 tenth's of a point.

Nvidia's problem - not caused by the operating system.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"ChuckN" <Chuck@newmanArchitecture.com> wrote in message
news:A0F62289-C021-4273-BC1C-6FC078A0603D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of 3.8
>When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating reduced to
>1.0
>
> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?
>
> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]

That's good advice from Cal Bear.

I have a 6600GT and it rates a 4.9 Desktop, and 4.3 Gaming score with the
169.09 Drivers from NVidia.

Kurt

"Cal Bear '66" <xxx@xxx.org> wrote in message
news:07304B4A-DF44-433F-A5E6-55BE2FDFC544@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> NEVER allow Windows Update to install hardware drivers, especially
> graphics card drivers.
>
> Go to nVidia and download and install the latest drivers.
>
> [url]http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us[/url]
>
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
>
> "ChuckN" <Chuck@newmanArchitecture.com> wrote in message
> news:A0F62289-C021-4273-BC1C-6FC078A0603D@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of 3.8
>>When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating reduced to
>>1.0
>>
>> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
>> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?
>>
>> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]
>
>[/color]

ChuckN wrote:[color=blue]
> I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of 3.8
> When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating reduced
> to 1.0
>
> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?
>
> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]

Uhhhh...did you update your score after the new driver was installed?
You must do that otherwise it will always default to 1 when new hardware
or drivers are installed.
Frank

Alias wrote:
[color=blue]
> ChuckN wrote:
> [color=green]
>> I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of
>> 3.8 When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating
>> reduced to 1.0
>>
>> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.[/color]
>
>
> Because MS isn't nVidia, of course.
> [color=green]
>> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?[/color]
>
>
> Because they don't give a sh¡t about their paying customers.
> [color=green]
>> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]
>
>
> Best to get driver updates from nVidia, not Microsoft. After all,
> Microsoft didn't make your graphics card, nVidia did. Now, roll back the
> driver and visit [url]www.nvidia.com[/url] and get a proper driver for your card.
>
> Alias[/color]

He proly just needs to update his "score" as it will always default to 1
when new hardware of software updates are applied.
You need to stop your incessant lying about a product you don't even
use. It only makes you look like a big lying fool.
Frank

One other thing:

He should be SURE to UNINSTALL (in Device Manager -- including CHECKING the box
to "Delete driver files in the Uninstall confirmation box) his present nVidia
drivers, reboot and then install the downloaded new drivers.


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"Kurt Herman" <scapino@nwlink.com> wrote in message
news:%23iPvQbCOIHA.292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> That's good advice from Cal Bear.
>
> I have a 6600GT and it rates a 4.9 Desktop, and 4.3 Gaming score with the
> 169.09 Drivers from NVidia.
>
> Kurt
>
> "Cal Bear '66" <xxx@xxx.org> wrote in message
> news:07304B4A-DF44-433F-A5E6-55BE2FDFC544@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> NEVER allow Windows Update to install hardware drivers, especially graphics
>> card drivers.
>>
>> Go to nVidia and download and install the latest drivers.
>>
>> [url]http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us[/url]
>>
>>
>> I Bleed Blue and Gold
>> GO BEARS!
>>
>>
>> "ChuckN" <Chuck@newmanArchitecture.com> wrote in message
>> news:A0F62289-C021-4273-BC1C-6FC078A0603D@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of 3.8 When
>>>Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating reduced to 1.0
>>>
>>> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
>>> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?
>>>
>>> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Thanks everyone for the great advice.

Yes, I did update the score after installing Microsoft's recommended update.
I did get a score of 1.0.

It did return to 3.8 when I went back to the earlier driver.

"Frank" <fb@osspan.clm> wrote in message
news:%23IluvbCOIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> ChuckN wrote:[color=green]
>> I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of 3.8
>> When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating reduced
>> to 1.0
>>
>> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
>> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a problem?
>>
>> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]
>
> Uhhhh...did you update your score after the new driver was installed?
> You must do that otherwise it will always default to 1 when new hardware
> or drivers are installed.
> Frank
>[/color]

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:
>[color=green]
>> ChuckN wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of
>>> 3.8 When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating
>>> reduced to 1.0
>>>
>>> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Because MS isn't nVidia, of course.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a
>>> problem?[/color]
>>
>>
>> Because they don't give a sh¡t about their paying customers.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?[/color]
>>
>>
>> Best to get driver updates from nVidia, not Microsoft. After all,
>> Microsoft didn't make your graphics card, nVidia did. Now, roll back
>> the driver and visit [url]www.nvidia.com[/url] and get a proper driver for your
>> card.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> He proly just needs to update his "score" as it will always default to 1
> when new hardware of software updates are applied.
> You need to stop your incessant lying about a product you don't even
> use. It only makes you look like a big lying fool.
> Frank[/color]

The OP replied to your stupid advice with this:

"Thanks everyone for the great advice.

Yes, I did update the score after installing Microsoft's recommended
update. I did get a score of 1.0.

It did return to 3.8 when I went back to the earlier driver."

Oops. You are looking like a "big lying fool", Frankie boy. Are ya man
enough to admit you made a mistake and man enough to apologize to me?

Alias

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Frank wrote:
> [color=green]
>> Alias wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> ChuckN wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of
>>>> 3.8 When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating
>>>> reduced to 1.0
>>>>
>>>> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because MS isn't nVidia, of course.
>>>
>>>> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a
>>>> problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Because they don't give a sh¡t about their paying customers.
>>>
>>>> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best to get driver updates from nVidia, not Microsoft. After all,
>>> Microsoft didn't make your graphics card, nVidia did. Now, roll back
>>> the driver and visit [url]www.nvidia.com[/url] and get a proper driver for your
>>> card.
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>>
>> He proly just needs to update his "score" as it will always default to
>> 1 when new hardware of software updates are applied.
>> You need to stop your incessant lying about a product you don't even
>> use. It only makes you look like a big lying fool.
>> Frank[/color]
>
>
> The OP replied to your stupid advice with this:
>
> "Thanks everyone for the great advice.
>
> Yes, I did update the score after installing Microsoft's recommended
> update. I did get a score of 1.0.
>
> It did return to 3.8 when I went back to the earlier driver."
>
> Oops. You are looking like a "big lying fool", Frankie boy. Are ya man
> enough to admit you made a mistake and man enough to apologize to me?
>
> Alias[/color]

Careful old man, no need to have stroke. If you bother to actually read
my post I said, "he proly needs". He did, it didn't work so he rolled
back and everything is fine.
I didn't make a mistake and you are still an admitted and known linux
lying troll.
Live with it dickhead!
Frank

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> Frank wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> ChuckN wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating of
>>>>> 3.8 When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics rating
>>>>> reduced to 1.0
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because MS isn't nVidia, of course.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a
>>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because they don't give a sh¡t about their paying customers.
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best to get driver updates from nVidia, not Microsoft. After all,
>>>> Microsoft didn't make your graphics card, nVidia did. Now, roll back
>>>> the driver and visit [url]www.nvidia.com[/url] and get a proper driver for your
>>>> card.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> He proly just needs to update his "score" as it will always default
>>> to 1 when new hardware of software updates are applied.
>>> You need to stop your incessant lying about a product you don't even
>>> use. It only makes you look like a big lying fool.
>>> Frank[/color]
>>
>>
>> The OP replied to your stupid advice with this:
>>
>> "Thanks everyone for the great advice.
>>
>> Yes, I did update the score after installing Microsoft's recommended
>> update. I did get a score of 1.0.
>>
>> It did return to 3.8 when I went back to the earlier driver."
>>
>> Oops. You are looking like a "big lying fool", Frankie boy. Are ya man
>> enough to admit you made a mistake and man enough to apologize to me?
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> Careful old man, no need to have stroke.[/color]

Sorry to disappoint you, but the *last* thing *anything* you say will do
is upset me in any way.

If you bother to actually read[color=blue]
> my post I said, "he proly needs".[/color]

No, he didn't "proly" need your stupid advice.
[color=blue]
> He did, it didn't work so he rolled
> back and everything is fine.[/color]

No, he tried it before ever reading your stupid advice.
[color=blue]
> I didn't make a mistake and you are still an admitted and known linux
> lying troll.[/color]

Yes, you made a mistake but you're not man enough to admit it.
[color=blue]
> Live with it dickhead!
> Frank[/color]

"Proly" isn't a word in the English language, Frank. What do you think
you're doing, text messaging on a cell phone? Or can we add hunt and
peck typing to the list of your "abilities"?

Your advice didn't *probably* work. I didn't work at all because it was
stupid advice. Video drivers should *never* be gotten from MS but from
the graphics card manufacturer. This has been true for years.

Alias

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Frank wrote:
> [color=green]
>> Alias wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ChuckN wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the NVIDIA Graphics Card noted and have a graphics rating
>>>>>> of 3.8 When Microsoft released the updated driver, the graphics
>>>>>> rating reduced to 1.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Why would a new driver degrade performance to that level.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Because MS isn't nVidia, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Why would they release a driver that created that big of a
>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Because they don't give a sh¡t about their paying customers.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a fix other than not installing that update?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best to get driver updates from nVidia, not Microsoft. After all,
>>>>> Microsoft didn't make your graphics card, nVidia did. Now, roll
>>>>> back the driver and visit [url]www.nvidia.com[/url] and get a proper driver
>>>>> for your card.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He proly just needs to update his "score" as it will always default
>>>> to 1 when new hardware of software updates are applied.
>>>> You need to stop your incessant lying about a product you don't even
>>>> use. It only makes you look like a big lying fool.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The OP replied to your stupid advice with this:
>>>
>>> "Thanks everyone for the great advice.
>>>
>>> Yes, I did update the score after installing Microsoft's recommended
>>> update. I did get a score of 1.0.
>>>
>>> It did return to 3.8 when I went back to the earlier driver."
>>>
>>> Oops. You are looking like a "big lying fool", Frankie boy. Are ya
>>> man enough to admit you made a mistake and man enough to apologize to
>>> me?
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>>
>> Careful old man, no need to have stroke.[/color]
>
>
> Sorry to disappoint you, but the *last* thing *anything* you say will do
> is upset me in any way.
>
> If you bother to actually read
> [color=green]
>> my post I said, "he proly needs".[/color]
>
>
> No, he didn't "proly" need your stupid advice.
> [color=green]
>> He did, it didn't work so he rolled back and everything is fine.[/color]
>
>
> No, he tried it before ever reading your stupid advice.
> [color=green]
>> I didn't make a mistake and you are still an admitted and known linux
>> lying troll.[/color]
>
>
> Yes, you made a mistake but you're not man enough to admit it.
> [color=green]
>> Live with it dickhead!
>> Frank[/color]
>
>
> "Proly" isn't a word in the English language, Frank. What do you think
> you're doing, text messaging on a cell phone? Or can we add hunt and
> peck typing to the list of your "abilities"?
>
> Your advice didn't *probably* work. I didn't work at all because it was
> stupid advice. Video drivers should *never* be gotten from MS but from
> the graphics card manufacturer. This has been true for years.
>
> Alias[/color]

hehehehe...don't have a heart attack old man.
Of course, lying in proper English is proly very classy, right...LOL!
Frank