http://www.neowin.net/news/main/07/1...over-vista-sp1

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After a disappointing showing by Windows Vista SP1 (see previous post),
we were pleasantly surprised to discover that Windows XP Service Pack 3
(v.3244) delivers a measurable performance boost to this aging desktop
OS. Testing with OfficeBench showed an ~10% performance boost vs. the
same configuration running under Windows XP w/Service Pack 2.

Since SP3 was supposed to be mostly a bug-fix/patch consolidation
release - unlike w/Vista SP1, Microsoft made no promises of improved
performance for XP - the unexpected speed boost comes as a nice bonus.
In fact, XP SP3 is shaping-up to be a "must have" update for the
majority of users who are still running Redmond's not-so-latest and
greatest desktop OS.
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I don't think that is a surprise.
I haven't been impressed with Vista since the first Beta build.
The RTM isn't anything that I prefer to use, but since I have to support it,
I suffer through it.
When XP was released, I could see the improvements over NT, W2K and W98/ME.
To me, this pig they call Vista isn't an improvement.

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> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/07/1...over-vista-sp1
>
> ---
> After a disappointing showing by Windows Vista SP1 (see previous post), we
> were pleasantly surprised to discover that Windows XP Service Pack 3
> (v.3244) delivers a measurable performance boost to this aging desktop OS.
> Testing with OfficeBench showed an ~10% performance boost vs. the same
> configuration running under Windows XP w/Service Pack 2.
>
> Since SP3 was supposed to be mostly a bug-fix/patch consolidation
> release - unlike w/Vista SP1, Microsoft made no promises of improved
> performance for XP - the unexpected speed boost comes as a nice bonus. In
> fact, XP SP3 is shaping-up to be a "must have" update for the majority of
> users who are still running Redmond's not-so-latest and greatest desktop
> OS.
> ---

Not Me wrote:
> I don't think that is a surprise.
> I haven't been impressed with Vista since the first Beta build.
> The RTM isn't anything that I prefer to use, but since I have to support it,
> I suffer through it.
> When XP was released, I could see the improvements over NT, W2K and W98/ME.
> To me, this pig they call Vista isn't an improvement.
>

You obviously haven't used it very much if you haven't noticed any
improvements. That or you are incapable of handling changes that are
introduced with a new operating system.

dzomlija wrote:
> occam;523634 Wrote:
>> 'Neowin.net - Windows XP SP3 Yields Performance Gains Over Vista SP1'
>> (http://www.neowin.net/news/main/07/1...over-vista-sp1)
>>
>> ---
>> After a disappointing showing by Windows Vista SP1 (see previous post),
>> we were pleasantly surprised to discover that Windows XP Service Pack 3
>> (v.3244) delivers a measurable performance boost to this aging desktop
>> OS. Testing with OfficeBench showed an ~10% performance boost vs. the
>> same configuration running under Windows XP w/Service Pack 2.
>>
>> Since SP3 was supposed to be mostly a bug-fix/patch consolidation
>> release - unlike w/Vista SP1, Microsoft made no promises of improved
>> performance for XP - the unexpected speed boost comes as a nice bonus.
>> In fact, XP SP3 is shaping-up to be a "must have" update for the
>> majority of users who are still running Redmond's not-so-latest and
>> greatest desktop OS.
>> ---
>
> How can a comparison be made accurately between XPSP3 & VSP1 when both
> are still in beta? There are bound to be some issues that have yet to be
> plugged that will results in current "disappointing" results.
>


Easily. You run officebench - that is what it is there for. Your
experience so far should have told you that *all* MS software is 'beta'
at best - no matter what the label says. (Remember Vista 'Gold' ?)

dzomlija wrote:
> occam;525340 Wrote:
>> Easily. You run officebench - that is what it is there for. Your
>> experience so far should have told you that *all* MS software is 'beta'
>> at best - no matter what the label says. (Remember Vista 'Gold' ?)
>
> I can't say that I do. What is Vista "Gold"?
>
> An no, not all Microsoft software can be considered BETA. I'm curious
> as toi what prompted you to make such an inaccurate statement?
>
>

dzomlija, go to
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...tasp1beta.mspx
and read

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PressPass: Isn’t that a long time between Windows Vista RTM (or “gold
code”) and the release of first service pack, at least compared with
past versions of Windows?

DeVaan: [blah, blah]
In fact, the use of the term “gold code” is somewhat of an anachronism
in an environment where we have product feedback mechanisms available to
us that help us continuously identify and diagnose real-world software
issues and the update mechanisms in place to regularly deliver fixes for
those issues to hundreds of millions of customers. We think like most
major software projects, WindowsVista was designed to improve
continuously from the time it is purchased.
----

The last sentence "We think like most major software projects,
WindowsVista was designed to improve continuously from the time it is
purchased." says exactly what I said - Vista is 'beta' ... until the
release of Windows 7.

Gold usually means the original RTM release of a product.
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>
> occam;525340 Wrote:
>> Easily. You run officebench - that is what it is there for. Your
>> experience so far should have told you that *all* MS software is 'beta'
>> at best - no matter what the label says. (Remember Vista 'Gold' ?)
>
> I can't say that I do. What is Vista "Gold"?
>
> An no, not all Microsoft software can be considered BETA. I'm curious
> as toi what prompted you to make such an inaccurate statement?
>
>
> --
> dzomlija
>
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:02:18 +0100, occam wrote:

> The last sentence "We think like most major software projects,
> WindowsVista was designed to improve continuously from the time
> it is purchased." says exactly what I said - Vista is 'beta' ...
> until the release of Windows 7.

Rubbish!

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-- Dorothy Leigh Sayers

"says exactly what I said"
Not at all.
By the definition you are using, just about all if not all software
from all sources, not just Microsoft, is Beta since it is all subject
to updates, patches etc.
Or are you saying all software is Beta?

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"occam" <occam@razor.dot.com> wrote in message
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> dzomlija, go to
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...tasp1beta.mspx
> and read
>
> ----
> PressPass: Isn’t that a long time between Windows Vista RTM (or
> “gold code”) and the release of first service pack, at least
> compared with past versions of Windows?
>
> DeVaan: [blah, blah]
> In fact, the use of the term “gold code” is somewhat of an
> anachronism in an environment where we have product feedback
> mechanisms available to us that help us continuously identify and
> diagnose real-world software issues and the update mechanisms in
> place to regularly deliver fixes for those issues to hundreds of
> millions of customers. We think like most major software projects,
> WindowsVista was designed to improve continuously from the time it
> is purchased.
> ----
>
> The last sentence "We think like most major software projects,
> WindowsVista was designed to improve continuously from the time it
> is purchased." says exactly what I said - Vista is 'beta' ... until
> the release of Windows 7.

Its ok. :)
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http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"dzomlija" <dzomlija.30o6je@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> 'Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin Wrote:
>> ;525436']Gold usually means the original RTM release of a product.
>
> Ok, never knew that one! ;)
>
>
> --
> dzomlija
>
> ____________________________________
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? -And as
> you die, so shall I be Reborn-...
>
> - ASUS A8N32-SLI-Deluxe
> - AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+
> - 4GB DDR400
> - ASUS nVidia 6600
> - Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis
> - 1207GB Total Formatted Storage
> - Vista Ultimate x64
> - CodeGear Delphi 2007'http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/'
> (http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/)