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Old 11-06-2007, 01:20 PM
dennis@home
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Ping Alias.

You wanted to know about unix viruses..
here is one for you to look at.

[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url]


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Old 11-06-2007, 03:10 PM
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Re: Ping Alias.

dennis@home wrote:[color=blue]
> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
> here is one for you to look at.
>
> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url]
>
>[/color]

This is a trojan and you have to be dumb enough to install it and give
it permission to run.

The Trojan sits behind an online video and when you try to play it you
get a message from Quicktime telling you to get a new codec, and if you
follow the link you'll be sent to a site that hosts the malicious software.

Click "ok" and enter your systems adminstrator's password and it will be
installed on your computer with full system access after which you are,
to use the jargon, "pwned", or scuppered.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:20 PM
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Re: Ping Alias.

dennis@home wrote:
[color=blue]
> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
> here is one for you to look at.
>
> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url][/color]

Why should he care, if he's running Linux?

Cheers.

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Old 11-06-2007, 03:30 PM
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Re: Ping Alias.

dennis@home wrote:[color=blue]
> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
> here is one for you to look at.
>
> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url]
>
>[/color]

Gosh, one little trojan that you have to agree to install and it's for
Macs, not Linux. Impressive, Dennis, impressive.

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Old 11-06-2007, 11:10 PM
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Re: Ping Alias.



"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Mp7Yi.185345$1y4.81402@pd7urf2no...[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:
>[color=green]
>> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
>> here is one for you to look at.
>>
>> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url][/color]
>
> Why should he care, if he's running Linux?[/color]

Because its the same mechanism to root linux.
It doesn't matter how secure you make the OS its still got a stupid user at
the controls.
This is why Alias' (and lots of other users) claims about linux being secure
or even more secure are wrong.

I bet all the Mac users were smug behind their cloak of invulnerability, I
bet some stupid ones still are.
This false belief that they are secure just leaves the mugs wide open to
attack.



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Old 11-06-2007, 11:10 PM
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"Jeanette" <girl@nospam.org> wrote in message
news:OsnFdFNIIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:[color=green]
>> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
>> here is one for you to look at.
>>
>> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url]
>>
>>[/color]
>
> This is a trojan and you have to be dumb enough to install it and give it
> permission to run.[/color]

Yes and so are most windows attacks but they still get called viruses.
It doesn't matter to the end user if they are infected.
All it does is give some users gloating rights and an excuse to say its not
their favorite OSes fault.



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Old 11-06-2007, 11:10 PM
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"Alias" <iamalias******shoes.com> wrote in message
news:fgr0j2$mlv$6@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:[color=green]
>> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
>> here is one for you to look at.
>>
>> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url]
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Gosh, one little trojan that you have to agree to install and it's for
> Macs, not Linux. Impressive, Dennis, impressive.[/color]

See what I said about mugs in a previous post.

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Old 11-07-2007, 04:20 AM
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Re: Ping Alias.

NoStop wrote:[color=blue]
> dennis@home wrote:
>[color=green]
>> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
>> here is one for you to look at.
>>
>> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url][/color]
>
> Why should he care, if he's running Linux?
>[/color]

Because the most devastating virus in the history of computing was a
Unix-based one.


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Old 11-07-2007, 04:50 AM
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"HeyBub" <heybub******.com> wrote in message
news:ewLSn#TIIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> NoStop wrote:[color=green]
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
>>> here is one for you to look at.
>>>
>>> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url][/color]
>>
>> Why should he care, if he's running Linux?
>>[/color]
>
> Because the most devastating virus in the history of computing was a
> Unix-based one.[/color]

Wasn't it a worm?

Anyway it is going to happen to linux if there are ever enough to bother
with.
Someone thinks its worth doing it with Macs, probably because they run
freebsd (more secure than Linux BTW) and users aren't going to be able to
find the infection easily. There are not going to be any of those "pesky" AV
updates to find it for Mac users so they will have to wait and see if Apple
fix it. Maybe Apple will supply a working firewall as a fix too or is a fake
firewall a new feature of leopard?

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Old 11-07-2007, 05:00 AM
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Re: Ping Alias.

HeyBub wrote:[color=blue]
> NoStop wrote:[color=green]
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
>>> here is one for you to look at.
>>>
>>> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url][/color]
>> Why should he care, if he's running Linux?
>>[/color]
>
> Because the most devastating virus in the history of computing was a
> Unix-based one.
>
>[/color]


It is only true fools who think that any OS is
bullet proof.
caver1
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:20 AM
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Re: Ping Alias.

dennis@home wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias******shoes.com> wrote in message
> news:fgr0j2$mlv$6@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> dennis@home wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> You wanted to know about unix viruses..
>>> here is one for you to look at.
>>>
>>> [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7079777.stm[/url]
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Gosh, one little trojan that you have to agree to install and it's for
>> Macs, not Linux. Impressive, Dennis, impressive.[/color]
>
> See what I said about mugs in a previous post.[/color]

Considering the number of posts you post, no thanks. "Mugs"? For coffee
or a "mug" shot?

That said, safe hex is the best defense, no matter what OS you use.
Ubuntu comes with a software firewall and Clam AV. I combine that with a
hard firewall in my router. That doesn't mean that if something should
pop up wanting to be installed, that I will be stupid enough to allow
it, be it Windows or Ubuntu.

And, that said, Ubuntu or Mac is much less prone to viruses and malware
than Windows Vista. IMHO, Windows Vista is a virus itself as it's always
calling home surreptitiously.

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Old 11-07-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: Ping Alias.

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> IMHO, Windows Vista is a virus itself as it's always
> calling home surreptitiously.
>[/color]

[url]http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Internet/2004/virus.asp[/url]
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:40 AM
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Adam Arrested Development Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> IMHO, Windows Vista is a virus itself as it's always calling home
>> surreptitiously.
>>[/color]
>
> [url]http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Internet/2004/virus.asp[/url][/color]

Describes the Vista Virus to a T. The user has to install it, run it and
it creates havoc on the computer. In addition, Vista is a trojan because
it calls home surreptitiously. Happy now or do want to play more
semantics games?

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Old 11-07-2007, 06:50 AM
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Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Adam Arrested Development Albright wrote:[color=green]
>> Alias wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> IMHO, Windows Vista is a virus itself as it's always calling home
>>> surreptitiously.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> [url]http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Internet/2004/virus.asp[/url][/color]
>
> Describes the Vista Virus to a T. The user has to install it, run it and
> it creates havoc on the computer. In addition, Vista is a trojan because
> it calls home surreptitiously. Happy now or do want to play more
> semantics games?
>[/color]

<No, I am not happy because you don't know what you're talking about.
So, Susu or this African Linux must be Trojans too when they phone home,
and they do phone home or they don't phone home automatically. But
nevertheless they phone home. Your credibility comes in to question
again when you give erroneous information and try to twist it to be
something else.>
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:00 AM
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Adam Arrested Development Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> Adam Arrested Development Albright wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> IMHO, Windows Vista is a virus itself as it's always calling home
>>>> surreptitiously.
>>>>
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Internet/2004/virus.asp[/url][/color]
>>
>> Describes the Vista Virus to a T. The user has to install it, run it
>> and it creates havoc on the computer. In addition, Vista is a trojan
>> because it calls home surreptitiously. Happy now or do want to play
>> more semantics games?
>>[/color]
>
> <No, I am not happy because you don't know what you're talking about.
> So, Susu or this African Linux must be Trojans too when they phone home,
> and they do phone home or they don't phone home automatically. But
> nevertheless they phone home. Your credibility comes in to question
> again when you give erroneous information and try to twist it to be
> something else.>[/color]

Ubuntu phones home for updates. Vista phones home to check if you're
running a "genuine" copy of Vista. If you so choose, you can stop Ubuntu
from phoning home or not install the updates. With Vista, if the flawed
"anti piracy" programs deem you not "genuine", your computer is reduced
to "low functionality" and you can't use it until you get permission
from MS to do so. I don't expect someone of your low intelligence to
understand this and I only post for those who do. What you think or do
is immaterial to me because all you are is a troll who helps no one.

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