Telstar wrote:

>
> "Mindy Cohen" <united4luv******.com> wrote in message
> news:fg2cin$er2$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:26:29 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Indeed, you are the idiot of the present...not the future. There is no
>>> hope for Linux on average desktops...ever. And this is from someone
>>> dealing with assembly level coding in Linux and Windows. It will never
>>> work for the masses. Get that through your very feeble brain!
>>
>> Why? Linux seems to be working just fine on my desktop and I'm a totally
>> new user.
>
> There are so many incompatabilities among distributions

Certainly. I am sure you can tell us at least half a dozen, and explain them
in detail. After all, there are "so many of them"

> and the limited available and functional software ... that is why.

Yes. Very limited available software. Filling just several DVDs
Around 20.000 packages. Now *thats* what I call "limited available software"

Idiot
--
If you had any brains, you'd be dangerous.

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:07:09 -0700,
Telstar <none@none> wrote:
>
> "Mindy Cohen" <united4luv******.com> wrote in message
> news:fg2cin$er2$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:26:29 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Indeed, you are the idiot of the present...not the future. There is no
>>> hope for Linux on average desktops...ever. And this is from someone
>>> dealing with assembly level coding in Linux and Windows. It will never
>>> work for the masses. Get that through your very feeble brain!
>>
>> Why? Linux seems to be working just fine on my desktop and I'm a totally
>> new user.
>
> There are so many incompatabilities among distributions and the limited
> available and functional software ... that is why.
>

like what?


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Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Balance the budget. Declare politicions a game species and sell hunting
stamps.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:28:24 -0700, Jim Richardson wrote
(in article <81ffv4-enu.ln1@dragon.myth>):

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> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:07:09 -0700,
> Telstar <none@none> wrote:
>>
>> "Mindy Cohen" <united4luv******.com> wrote in message
>> news:fg2cin$er2$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:26:29 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Indeed, you are the idiot of the present...not the future. There is no
>>>> hope for Linux on average desktops...ever. And this is from someone
>>>> dealing with assembly level coding in Linux and Windows. It will never
>>>> work for the masses. Get that through your very feeble brain!
>>>
>>> Why? Linux seems to be working just fine on my desktop and I'm a totally
>>> new user.
>>
>> There are so many incompatabilities among distributions and the limited
>> available and functional software ... that is why.
>>
>
> like what?


Lemme see, anything from Microsoft or anything from Adobe. That'll do for a
start. Then you can add anything from Apple (Final Cut Pro, Aperture, iLife,
iWork, etc.) anything from Borland, Intuit, Altiris, etc.
--
"You've libeled and slandered me so much you can't keep track of it."

Edwin Thorne 10/26/07

If Linux is for the masses why is it that I haven't been able to install
Ubuntu on any of the machines that I have tried.
The last time was today when I tried a live cd in a virtual environment. It
takes too much tech knowledge to install for the average person to use.
I've been around computers for about ten years. Both building my own and
using different machines since Windows 3.11 so I'm not a novice.

--
The future is the past repainted
"Mindy Cohen" <united4luv******.com> wrote in message
news:fg2cin$er2$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:26:29 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>
>
>> Indeed, you are the idiot of the present...not the future. There is no
>> hope for Linux on average desktops...ever. And this is from someone
>> dealing with assembly level coding in Linux and Windows. It will never
>> work for the masses. Get that through your very feeble brain!
>
> Why? Linux seems to be working just fine on my desktop and I'm a totally
> new user. I'll concede that I had a few hardware problems, but with a
> little outside help I was able to get Ubuntu working fine. Linux will not
> overtake Windwows over night because Microsoft is already dominant on the
> bulk of systems. As more people become dis-enchanted with Vista however
> Linux and OSX will offer alternatives that these people possibly might
> try. Linux is only a live dvd away and it's possible to try Linux without
> affecting the already installed system. What Linux really needs is some
> good old fashioned advertising because it is not exactly a household word
> amongst typical users who are not computer professionals.
>
> --
> Mindy Cohen
> "Life is too short to hate"
> united4luv@g****.com

Rich wrote:
> If Linux is for the masses why is it that I haven't been able to install
> Ubuntu on any of the machines that I have tried.
> The last time was today when I tried a live cd in a virtual environment.
> It takes too much tech knowledge to install for the average person to use.
> I've been around computers for about ten years. Both building my own and
> using different machines since Windows 3.11 so I'm not a novice.
>

Certainly not because you are not intelligent. But, you might be
un-informed or unfamiliar with the aspects of hardware glitches built
into machines made to run Microsoft, that won't or can't run a real OS
that uses the full hardware specifications, (which the vendor skirted
around during manufacturing, witness the many components that aren't
mounted on many sound and video cards, and even mainboards).

I just loaded a Compaq Presario 5310US, 1.2 Ghz with 384MB RAM, with
PC-BSD for the simple reason that the video graphics on the mainboard
don't measure up to the specifications that the maker officially lists
they do meet!

That machine runs perfectly with PCLinuxOS-p93 installed, but, the
repository for that 2006 Distro closed on September 22nd, 2007.

Without the ability to upgrade and install some of the 20 thousand free
games and files, it is at a stop.

PCLinuxOS 2007 won't configure, boot and install, on that machine.
Nor will Fedora 7, Ubuntu 7.10. Kubuntu 5.04 loaded and ran well, but,
again, I think it is a bit old and the update would waste my time, and
possibly confuse the noob who will inherit this machine.

I did boot mini-Knoppix V5.1.1 and others, but, PC-BSD was something I
desire to learn about, and will probably be on the machine for a while.
PC-BSD runs KDE desktop, and offers many free games!

So, as you now see, many distros are tried out, and when one does work
on the hardware, I use it, if it offers the majority of what I like.

Please try some of the other distros of GNU/Linux and *BSD, found at
http://livecdlist.com or http://distrowatch.com and, if not on a fast
connection, see the inexpensive mailings there.

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:59:19 -0700,
George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:28:24 -0700, Jim Richardson wrote
> (in article <81ffv4-enu.ln1@dragon.myth>):
>
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>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:07:09 -0700,
>> Telstar <none@none> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mindy Cohen" <united4luv******.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fg2cin$er2$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:26:29 -0700, Telstar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, you are the idiot of the present...not the future. There is no
>>>>> hope for Linux on average desktops...ever. And this is from someone
>>>>> dealing with assembly level coding in Linux and Windows. It will never
>>>>> work for the masses. Get that through your very feeble brain!
>>>>
>>>> Why? Linux seems to be working just fine on my desktop and I'm a totally
>>>> new user.
>>>
>>> There are so many incompatabilities among distributions and the limited
>>> available and functional software ... that is why.
>>>
>>
>> like what?
>
>
> Lemme see, anything from Microsoft or anything from Adobe. That'll do for a
> start. Then you can add anything from Apple (Final Cut Pro, Aperture, iLife,
> iWork, etc.) anything from Borland, Intuit, Altiris, etc.

I was asking about "incompatabilities among distributions"


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When you boil it down to the essentials, it's because Linux is designed
to be *used* and Windows is designed to be *sold*.

"AHappyCamper" <@thelandfill.com> wrote in message
news:47252641$0$20568$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Rich wrote:
>> If Linux is for the masses why is it that I haven't been able to install
>> Ubuntu on any of the machines that I have tried.
>> The last time was today when I tried a live cd in a virtual environment.
>> It takes too much tech knowledge to install for the average person to
>> use.
>> I've been around computers for about ten years. Both building my own and
>> using different machines since Windows 3.11 so I'm not a novice.
>>
>
> Certainly not because you are not intelligent. But, you might be
> un-informed or unfamiliar with the aspects of hardware glitches built
> into machines made to run Microsoft, that won't or can't run a real OS
> that uses the full hardware specifications

You win the IgNoble award for stupidity.

So now it is not only Microsoft, but hardware even remotely connected to
Microsoft. Did you know Microsoft is responsible for global warming, and
Linux is green?

Rich wrote:
> If Linux is for the masses why is it that I haven't been able to install
> Ubuntu on any of the machines that I have tried.
> The last time was today when I tried a live cd in a virtual environment.
> It takes too much tech knowledge to install for the average person to use.
> I've been around computers for about ten years. Both building my own and
> using different machines since Windows 3.11 so I'm not a novice.
>

I've never had any problem installing Ubuntu on any of the machines
I've attempted it on, including Compaq and HP laptops and homebuilt
PCs. OtOH, I'm at a loss what this thread has to do with Macintosh
advocacy, to which it is cross-posted. Ubuntu is a huge step beyond
the Linux experience from ten years ago. Nobody knows with any degree
of authority whether Linux will ever become a wildly popular desktop
OS, but I can tell you that it is quite functional if one takes the
time to master it. For me, at this time, MacOS X is superior, but that's
based on my personal choice. It does not mean desktop Linux (or even
better for me, FreeBSD) is not functional. Like George posted, if one
wants access to Mac only apps like iLife, Final Cut etc., Linux will
not work. As always, YMMV and OALA, EHOATAS...

Frank wrote:

>I thought you open sores guys

*plonk*

"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> schreef in bericht
news:djgei35onhgpglc4iejl9pcbrscdkfquvt@4ax.com...
> Frank wrote:
>
>>I thought you open sores guys
>
> *plonk*
>
[follow up]
I'm very sorry I plonked you Frank. My shrink gave me those new meds today
to refrain me from plonking people, but the dosage isn't what it should be!,
plonking people is my obsessive-compulsive neurosis!