Hi there, I have been an XP user and with that I have successfully used PC
Tools Registry Mechanic and Webroot Window Washer for maintaining my system.

Window washer is supposed to be fully Vista compatible and Registry Mechanic
is supposed to offer basic Vista support.

Does any one recommend any other system maintaining software for Vista?

Im wondering if there is good registry tool or system checking tool out
there to help heep my PC running fine?

On Oct 20, 3:26 am, goorambatman <goorambat...********.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi there, I have been an XP user and with that I have successfully used PC
> Tools Registry Mechanic and Webroot Window Washer for maintaining my system.
>
> Window washer is supposed to be fully Vista compatible and Registry Mechanic
> is supposed to offer basic Vista support.
>
> Does any one recommend any other system maintaining software for Vista?
>
> Im wondering if there is good registry tool or system checking tool out
> there to help heep my PC running fine?[/color]

Do not touch the Registry period in Vista. There have been recent
posts on this .On a Registry scan I have over 400 errors showing. I
have been told to leave them along. If you try to clean the Registry
you can do untold non fixable harm. Leave it well alone. Just live
with any errors like I do. Vista can handle it.

....or you can just backup your registry first. I have used Registry
Mechanic, Tuneup Utilities, Vista Manager, Advanced System Optimiser and
CCleaner and Vista is running smoothly and I've never had to restore the
registry from a backup. Registry Mechanic does have a bit of an issue on
Vista x64 though.

"Michael Yardley" <middleton@mail.org> wrote in message
news:1192876696.680204.304480@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> On Oct 20, 3:26 am, goorambatman <goorambat...********.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> Hi there, I have been an XP user and with that I have successfully used
>> PC
>> Tools Registry Mechanic and Webroot Window Washer for maintaining my
>> system.
>>
>> Window washer is supposed to be fully Vista compatible and Registry
>> Mechanic
>> is supposed to offer basic Vista support.
>>
>> Does any one recommend any other system maintaining software for Vista?
>>
>> Im wondering if there is good registry tool or system checking tool out
>> there to help heep my PC running fine?[/color]
>
> Do not touch the Registry period in Vista. There have been recent
> posts on this .On a Registry scan I have over 400 errors showing. I
> have been told to leave them along. If you try to clean the Registry
> you can do untold non fixable harm. Leave it well alone. Just live
> with any errors like I do. Vista can handle it.
>[/color]

goorambatman wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi there, I have been an XP user and with that I have successfully used PC
> Tools Registry Mechanic and Webroot Window Washer for maintaining my system.
>
> Window washer is supposed to be fully Vista compatible and Registry Mechanic
> is supposed to offer basic Vista support.
>
> Does any one recommend any other system maintaining software for Vista?
>
> Im wondering if there is good registry tool or system checking tool out
> there to help heep my PC running fine?[/color]


There's no such thing as a "good" registry cleaner for any OS.
About the best that can be said for any of them is that they don't
render the computer unusable each time you use one.

Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry cleaner?

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.

For other cleaning and maintenance, Vista's built-in tools are more
than sufficient.


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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:%235Fo9AzEIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> goorambatman wrote:[color=green]
>> Hi there, I have been an XP user and with that I have successfully used
>> PC Tools Registry Mechanic and Webroot Window Washer for maintaining my
>> system.
>>
>> Window washer is supposed to be fully Vista compatible and Registry
>> Mechanic is supposed to offer basic Vista support.
>>
>> Does any one recommend any other system maintaining software for Vista?
>>
>> Im wondering if there is good registry tool or system checking tool out
>> there to help heep my PC running fine?[/color]
>
>
> There's no such thing as a "good" registry cleaner for any OS. About
> the best that can be said for any of them is that they don't render the
> computer unusable each time you use one.
>
> Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What specific
> *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's bogus listing
> of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by using a registry
> cleaner?
>
> If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be
> far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific
> key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After all, why use a
> chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually
> changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely to have the
> dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make multiple
> changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean your
> registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.
>
> The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of the
> computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
> device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
> registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning loose
> a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully confident that
> he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of each and every
> change.
>
> Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
> automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
> experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
> Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
> of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
> maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
> experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner, no
> matter how safe they claim to be.
>
> More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
> automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
> computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been no
> empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such products to
> "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance or stability.
> Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.
>
> Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and every
> time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there. And, since
> no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any good (think of
> them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no real medicinal
> value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo effect), I always tell
> people that the risks far out-weigh the non-existent benefits.
>
> I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands of
> an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a useful
> time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any
> changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
> registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.
> Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in
> the hands of the inexperienced user.
>
> For other cleaning and maintenance, Vista's built-in tools are more than
> sufficient.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> [url]http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm[/url]
> [url]http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html[/url]
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot[/color]

That's some real good advice Bruce but are you taking into account that most
of the average users have NO idea of the ramifications of incorrectly
"editing the registry". Even with the backup you suggest, many users would
have no idea of how to restore it. Do YOU know what you're doing?

Only if you constantly install/uninstall programs, should you consider using
a registry cleaner.

among freeware i can safely vouch for 'ccleaner'.
--
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Microsoft MVP 2007, 2008 Awardee.



"Bruce Chambers" wrote:
[color=blue]
> goorambatman wrote:[color=green]
> > Hi there, I have been an XP user and with that I have successfully used PC
> > Tools Registry Mechanic and Webroot Window Washer for maintaining my system.
> >
> > Window washer is supposed to be fully Vista compatible and Registry Mechanic
> > is supposed to offer basic Vista support.
> >
> > Does any one recommend any other system maintaining software for Vista?
> >
> > Im wondering if there is good registry tool or system checking tool out
> > there to help heep my PC running fine?[/color]
>
>
> There's no such thing as a "good" registry cleaner for any OS.
> About the best that can be said for any of them is that they don't
> render the computer unusable each time you use one.
>
> Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
> specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
> bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
> using a registry cleaner?
>
> If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
> be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
> specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
> all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
> the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
> to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
> multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
> your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.
>
> The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
> the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
> device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
> registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
> loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
> confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
> each and every change.
>
> Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
> automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
> experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
> Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
> of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
> maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
> experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
> no matter how safe they claim to be.
>
> More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
> automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
> computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been
> no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
> products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
> or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.
>
> Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
> every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
> And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
> good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
> real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
> effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
> non-existent benefits.
>
> I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
> of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
> useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
> any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
> registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.
> Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
> in the hands of the inexperienced user.
>
> For other cleaning and maintenance, Vista's built-in tools are more
> than sufficient.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> [url]http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm[/url]
> [url]http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html[/url]
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
>[/color]

Greg wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> That's some real good advice Bruce but are you taking into account that
> most of the average users have NO idea of the ramifications of
> incorrectly "editing the registry". Even with the backup you suggest,
> many users would have no idea of how to restore it. Do YOU know what
> you're doing?
>[/color]

I do. That's why I advise people to make the backups and to very
carefully follow any instructions provided for the solution of specific
registry problems. Further, the chances of rendering a computer
unbootable by manually editing a single, or even a few, individual
registry entries are much less than those of doing damage using a
registry "cleaner's" shotgun approach.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
[url]http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm[/url]
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

anandk wrote:[color=blue]
> Only if you constantly install/uninstall programs, should you consider using
> a registry cleaner.
>[/color]


Oh, why? Especially when it's never been demonstrated that orphaned
entries do any harm, or that using any registry "cleaner" does any good?
What's the point?

[color=blue]
> among freeware i can safely vouch for 'ccleaner'.[/color]


I disagree. Granted, CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively
benign, as long as you step through each detected "issue" one at a time,
to determine if it really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether
or not to let the application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of
the reported "issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest
version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files. Its
findings were utter nonsense, in plain terms.

CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies
in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
drive; as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly different from
any other snake oil product of the same type.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

On Oct 20, 10:25 am, Bruce Chambers <bchamb...@cable0ne.n3t> wrote:[color=blue]
> Greg wrote:
>[color=green]
> > That's some real good advice Bruce but are you taking into account that
> > most of the average users have NO idea of the ramifications of
> > incorrectly "editing the registry". Even with the backup you suggest,
> > many users would have no idea of how to restore it. Do YOU know what
> > you're doing?[/color]
>
> I do. That's why I advise people to make the backups and to very
> carefully follow any instructions provided for the solution of specific
> registry problems. Further, the chances of rendering a computer
> unbootable by manually editing a single, or even a few, individual
> registry entries are much less than those of doing damage using a
> registry "cleaner's" shotgun approach.
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:[url]http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htmhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html[/url]
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot[/color]

Based on the thread
Leave it well alone. Just live
with any errors like I do. Vista can handle it. This morning it seems
to be working fine.

I don't recommend ANY registry or system cleaning tool for ANY version of
Windows.

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"goorambatman" <goorambatman********.com> wrote in message
news:440C93BF-5747-479D-B68A-D91F7AE5B676@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Hi there, I have been an XP user and with that I have successfully used PC
> Tools Registry Mechanic and Webroot Window Washer for maintaining my
> system.
>
> Window washer is supposed to be fully Vista compatible and Registry
> Mechanic
> is supposed to offer basic Vista support.
>
> Does any one recommend any other system maintaining software for Vista?
>
> Im wondering if there is good registry tool or system checking tool out
> there to help heep my PC running fine?[/color]

Bruce Chambers wrote:
[color=blue]
> goorambatman wrote:[color=green]
>> Hi there, I have been an XP user and with that I have successfully used
>> PC Tools Registry Mechanic and Webroot Window Washer for maintaining my
>> system.
>>
>> Window washer is supposed to be fully Vista compatible and Registry
>> Mechanic is supposed to offer basic Vista support.
>>
>> Does any one recommend any other system maintaining software for Vista?
>>
>> Im wondering if there is good registry tool or system checking tool out
>> there to help heep my PC running fine?[/color]
>
>
> There's no such thing as a "good" registry cleaner for any OS.[/color]

Most real OS's don't use a fscking "registry" you idiot. Only MickeyMouse's
toy operating systems use such a silly system.

Cheers.

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