I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
dependable enough to use as a primary OS?

Sorry, I meant web and Windows Server applications development....


<msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OckE1rHCIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
>Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
>connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
>dependable enough to use as a primary OS?
>[/color]

Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
operating system available. By all means install and use it!

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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<msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OckE1rHCIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
dependable enough to use as a primary OS?

Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. However, based on my further reading,
it doesn't seem that a lot of others agree. XP SP2 has been very reliable
for me and I am simply afraid of making the move to Vista only to find that
I get lots of troubles.


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:11A422CA-F64E-40B9-A3DB-A6FA4DE5B0C5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
> operating system available. By all means install and use it!
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OckE1rHCIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
> Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
> connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
> dependable enough to use as a primary OS?
>[/color]

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:11A422CA-F64E-40B9-A3DB-A6FA4DE5B0C5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
> operating system available. By all means install and use it![/color]

You on drugs or something? Using Vista with Visual Studio is wrong. There
are patches for VS and still there are problems. Vista IS NOT ready for
prime time with the development suites.

Typical fanboy answer. KISS MICROSOFT A$$. Microsoft is Great. You
probably think that there is no need for a service pack!

[color=blue]
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OckE1rHCIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
> Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
> connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
> dependable enough to use as a primary OS?
>[/color]

<msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OWeek3HCIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. However, based on my further reading,
> it doesn't seem that a lot of others agree. XP SP2 has been very reliable
> for me and I am simply afraid of making the move to Vista only to find
> that I get lots of troubles.
>
>[/color]

Well, if you're trying to use a 64 bit version of Vista, then you might run
into trouble. I have had no problems using Vista Ultimate 32 bit in by Web
development. There are distinct advantages of using Vista and IIS7 over XP
Pro and IIS6. Just like the developers had to move to XP pro from Win 2k
pro, they are going to move to the Vista Business classed O/S(s) that are
running IIS7 so they can develop more powerful applications that take
advantage of Win 2k3 server and Win 2k8 server running IIS7.

<msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OWeek3HCIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. However, based on my further reading,
> it doesn't seem that a lot of others agree. XP SP2 has been very reliable
> for me and I am simply afraid of making the move to Vista only to find
> that I get lots of troubles.
>
>[/color]

OK, then. Looks like you've answered your own question.
See ya.

Well, I disagree. If you wish to install Windows XP,
an O/S fast approaching its intended end-of-life-cycle,
you won't be sorry. However, it is not as secure
and reliable as Windows Vista has proven to be.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

<msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OWeek3HCIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. However, based on my further reading,
it doesn't seem that a lot of others agree. XP SP2 has been very reliable
for me and I am simply afraid of making the move to Vista only to find that
I get lots of troubles.


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:11A422CA-F64E-40B9-A3DB-A6FA4DE5B0C5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
> operating system available. By all means install and use it!
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OckE1rHCIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
> Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
> connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
> dependable enough to use as a primary OS?
>[/color]

On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:55:16 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
>operating system available. By all means install and use it![/color]

Define secure and dependable please.

WARNING >> do not even go close to a vista OS with a 10 mile long stick

Fanboys like carey are very irresponsible and dangerous with their ill
advice they can make you miserable and in the end very angry.





<msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OWeek3HCIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. However, based on my further reading,
> it doesn't seem that a lot of others agree. XP SP2 has been very reliable
> for me and I am simply afraid of making the move to Vista only to find
> that I get lots of troubles.
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:11A422CA-F64E-40B9-A3DB-A6FA4DE5B0C5@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
>> operating system available. By all means install and use it!
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:OckE1rHCIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
>> Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
>> connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
>> dependable enough to use as a primary OS?
>>[/color]
>[/color]

<msnews.microsoft.com> wrote ...[color=blue]
>I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
>Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
>connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
>dependable enough to use as a primary OS?[/color]

If you are developing for the Windows platform then, yes - Vista is
reliable.

For Visual Studio 2005, make sure you apply both Service Pack 1:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=BB4A75AB-E2D4-4C96-B39D-37BAF6B5B1DC[/url]

... and the SP1 Update for Vista:
[url]http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=6366078[/url]

If you are using the Visual Studio 2008 Beta, it runs "as is" on Vista.

For SQL Server 2005, you need to apply Service Pack 2:
[url]http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=77674[/url]

More fine print about SQL Server on Vista, here:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/windowsvistasupport.mspx[/url]

To test your projects on Windows Server 2003 or 2008, you may want a Virtual
Machine environment running on Vista. Virtual PC is free and is supported on
Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate editions:
Virtual PC 2007
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx[/url]

While not strictly required for development on Vista, you may want to
install Network Monitor 3.1:
Microsoft Network Monitor 3.1
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=18B1D59D-F4D8-4213-8D17-2F6DDE7D7AAC&displaylang=en[/url]
NetMon is invaluable for understanding the behaviour of distributed and web
applications (especially when the "behaviour" is misbehaving :) Version 3.1
is fully Vista-compatible.

Hope it helps,

--
Andrew McLaren
amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

> reliable as Windows Vista has proven to be

RFLMAO!!!!!



"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:53F0FB1A-08F3-4BFD-9B77-7B2B4B69BF61@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Well, I disagree. If you wish to install Windows XP,
> an O/S fast approaching its intended end-of-life-cycle,
> you won't be sorry. However, it is not as secure
> and reliable as Windows Vista has proven to be.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OWeek3HCIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, I appreciate your feedback. However, based on my further reading,
> it doesn't seem that a lot of others agree. XP SP2 has been very reliable
> for me and I am simply afraid of making the move to Vista only to find
> that
> I get lots of troubles.
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:11A422CA-F64E-40B9-A3DB-A6FA4DE5B0C5@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
>> operating system available. By all means install and use it!
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:OckE1rHCIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I am in the process of building a new machine used primarily for web and
>> Windows Server applications. Visual Studio, SQL Server, remote
>> connectivity, monitoring, etc. Would you consider Vista reliable and
>> dependable enough to use as a primary OS?
>>[/color]
>[/color]

"Mr. Arnold" <MR. [email]Arnold@Arnold.com[/email]> wrote in message
news:OfFaQVICIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl[color=blue]
> Business classed O/S(s) that are running IIS7 so they can develop
> more powerful applications that take advantage of Win 2k3 server and
> Win 2k8 server running IIS7.[/color]

Windows 2003 Server is the server version of XP, and includes IIS 6.0

ss.

if everyone who gets near it dies from frustration then it is totally
secure...
dead users cant hack. Its so revolting even the viruses run away so they
wont
be contaminated by vista

, and you can depend on it to make your computing experience horrible



"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:aeggg35hlkjkeebo85ejog9nqnf03lbf6d@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:55:16 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
> <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
>>operating system available. By all means install and use it![/color]
>
> Define secure and dependable please.
>[/color]

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:aeggg35hlkjkeebo85ejog9nqnf03lbf6d@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:55:16 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
> <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Windows Vista is, by far, the most secure and dependable
>>operating system available. By all means install and use it![/color]
>
> Define secure and dependable please.
>[/color]


Secure means locking you in a cage.

Dependable means you will quack like a duck...because....you quack like a
duck....always.