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Old 10-04-2007, 03:40 AM
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Vista SP1 - Microsoft Could Not Have Given Less - Vista SP2 Anyone?

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista...ne-67571.shtml

Microsoft had the chance to position the first service pack for Windows
Vista as a panacea for the operating system, giving the platform nothing
less than a fresh start and another take at the Wow. Instead, Vista SP1 will
deliver close to nothing. Users should expect little, because they will get
it in full, and because Microsoft could not have given anything less with
the refresh. And if you believe that the company didn't try, then you are
sadly mistaken. Microsoft in fact stripped Vista SP1 down to the bare bones,
leaving only the essential architecture that would qualify as a service
pack. All strictly non-essential features, capabilities, features and
improvements were
killed from the status of concept, none of them making it to the embryonic
stage.

A member of the Windows Installer Team explained why they had to pull
references for Windows Installer 4.1, designed especially for Windows Vista
SP1, from MSDN and to cancel version 4.1 altogether. "What changed was that
the new guard in Windows had a very different bar for the Vista SP than had
been in practice for previous releases (at least in my memory). Generally
there is lip service to no large feature work in a SP but this time folks
listened. Big feature adds were heavily scrutinized. The items we wanted to
fix in the SP, UAC tweaks, were big feature by the new bar. When the UAC
tweaks were rejected for Vista SP1, the justification for 4.1 faded as there
were no new features in the Windows Installer in Vista SP1," the Windows
Installer Team member stated.

The new guard at Microsoft is formed by Kevin Johnson, President, Platforms
& Services Division; Jon DeVaan, Senior Vice President, Windows Core
Operating System Division and Steven Sinofsky, Senior Vice President,
Windows and Windows Live Engineering Group...although the last executive
might be more familiar to you as Steven codename Translucency Sinofsky, the
source of the Windows Omerta. By comparison, the old guard involved Jim
Allchin, (Former) Co-President, Platforms & Services Division; Brian
Valentine (former) senior vice president of the Windows Division and Chris
Jones, Corporate Vice President, Windows Live Experience Program Management.

Johnson, DeVaan and Sinofsky lowered the standard as much as possible on the
features that would end up in Vista SP1. In this context, the service pack
will be comprised of regular Windows Vista updates, application
compatibility improvements, device driver improvements, enhancements to
performance, reliability and security and a few tweaks to the default
desktop search mechanism. Vista SP1 will be nothing more than a standard
service pack, planned for the first quarter of 2008. However, the
generalized consumer perception, and the continuous user preference focused
on Windows XP seem to point to the fact that Vista would actually need a SP2
that will be a repeat of the second service pack for XP.


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Old 10-04-2007, 04:10 AM
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Re: Vista SP1 - Microsoft Could Not Have Given Less - Vista SP2 Anyone?


//snip//

I for one, and maybe the only one, am waiting patiently for XP sp3. I've
read most messages in this newsgroup before and after installing Vista
Ultimate. I've even asked for some help. I've done a clean install, and
I've done and upgrade. Each time I used Ghost to image my 2nd drive before
installing Vista. Finally, I've gone back to XP. Right now I'm out there
looking for a new computer with XP still installed on it. I can't find any
at the big box stores, but I understand MS has given manufacturers a 6 month
reprieve. We'll see.........Sorry MVPs, but that's my choice. One last
word: Vista is overpriced. $99 maybe. $289 no way.


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Old 10-04-2007, 05:50 AM
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Re: Vista SP1 - Microsoft Could Not Have Given Less - Vista SP2 Anyone?

3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina wrote:
> //snip//
>
> I for one, and maybe the only one, am waiting patiently for XP sp3. I've
> read most messages in this newsgroup before and after installing Vista
> Ultimate. I've even asked for some help. I've done a clean install, and
> I've done and upgrade. Each time I used Ghost to image my 2nd drive before
> installing Vista. Finally, I've gone back to XP. Right now I'm out there
> looking for a new computer with XP still installed on it. I can't find any
> at the big box stores, but I understand MS has given manufacturers a 6 month
> reprieve. We'll see.........Sorry MVPs, but that's my choice. One last
> word: Vista is overpriced. $99 maybe. $289 no way.


I'd consider a complete backup of your WinXP sp2 install,
there's no telling what they've done with SP3 and to tell
the truth...if XPsp2 is running fine then leave it alone.

I see no actual evidence or performance in Vista that
even makes it remotely appear as a Microsoft product,
Vista does include all the cutting edge technology
that one might wish for but it's a rabbit hunt.

NT Canuck
'Seek and ye shall find'
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:40 AM
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Wow - You can post news, so can I

I can cut and past news also. Here is a story that you might find
interesting:

Police Blotter
Just Say No: In September, police in Hertfordshire, England, stood fast
under criticism for their program of placing posters around the area
reading, "Don't Commit Crime." Said a police spokeswoman, "If stating the
obvious helps to reduce crime or has any impact at all, we will do it." (The
police also installed signs at gas stations: "All Fuel Must Be Paid For.")
[Daily Mail (London), 9-13-07]

People Who Are Messes: Tommy Tester, 58, minister of Gospel Baptist Church
in Bristol, Va., was arrested in July after he allegedly urinated at a car
wash, in front of children and police officers, while wearing a skirt.
(Police said alcohol was involved.) [Bristol Herald Courier, 7-31-07]

Catherine Delgado, 35, was arrested in Annapolis, Md., in August after she
appeared, smudged with fudge, in a hotel lobby around midnight with "large
slabs of fudge bulging out of her pockets" (according to a Washington Post
story). A police officer later checked a nearby Fudge Kitchen store and
found the door inexplicably open and a large display quantity missing from
the front window. (Police said alcohol was involved, along with fudge.)
[Washington Post, 8-3-07]



And the next story:



Obsessions

Just when Internet newspaper sites appear to be gaining ground as
replacements for printed editions, a 70-year-old woman identified only as
Maggie told the Edmonton (Alberta) Sun in September that her paper edition
of the Sun is a crucial part of her daily diet, literally. She eats it, in
strips, and has, she said, for the past seven years because it tastes good.
"I can't explain it," she said, and it was only when she recently
experienced a blockage of her esophagus, and doctors found a ball of paper,
that she revealed her obsession. Doctors cited by the Sun said that except
for the blockage danger, newspaper eating is not unhealthful. [Edmonton Sun,
9-5-07]



Let me know if you want more news posted.





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> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista...ne-67571.shtml
>
> Microsoft had the chance to position the first service pack for Windows
> Vista as a panacea for the operating system, giving the platform nothing
> less than a fresh start and another take at the Wow. Instead, Vista SP1
> will deliver close to nothing. Users should expect little, because they
> will get it in full, and because Microsoft could not have given anything
> less with the refresh. And if you believe that the company didn't try,
> then you are sadly mistaken. Microsoft in fact stripped Vista SP1 down to
> the bare bones, leaving only the essential architecture that would qualify
> as a service pack. All strictly non-essential features, capabilities,
> features and improvements were
> killed from the status of concept, none of them making it to the embryonic
> stage.
>
> A member of the Windows Installer Team explained why they had to pull
> references for Windows Installer 4.1, designed especially for Windows
> Vista SP1, from MSDN and to cancel version 4.1 altogether. "What changed
> was that the new guard in Windows had a very different bar for the Vista
> SP than had been in practice for previous releases (at least in my
> memory). Generally there is lip service to no large feature work in a SP
> but this time folks listened. Big feature adds were heavily scrutinized.
> The items we wanted to fix in the SP, UAC tweaks, were big feature by the
> new bar. When the UAC tweaks were rejected for Vista SP1, the
> justification for 4.1 faded as there were no new features in the Windows
> Installer in Vista SP1," the Windows Installer Team member stated.
>
> The new guard at Microsoft is formed by Kevin Johnson, President,
> Platforms & Services Division; Jon DeVaan, Senior Vice President, Windows
> Core Operating System Division and Steven Sinofsky, Senior Vice President,
> Windows and Windows Live Engineering Group...although the last executive
> might be more familiar to you as Steven codename Translucency Sinofsky,
> the source of the Windows Omerta. By comparison, the old guard involved
> Jim Allchin, (Former) Co-President, Platforms & Services Division; Brian
> Valentine (former) senior vice president of the Windows Division and Chris
> Jones, Corporate Vice President, Windows Live Experience Program
> Management.
>
> Johnson, DeVaan and Sinofsky lowered the standard as much as possible on
> the features that would end up in Vista SP1. In this context, the service
> pack will be comprised of regular Windows Vista updates, application
> compatibility improvements, device driver improvements, enhancements to
> performance, reliability and security and a few tweaks to the default
> desktop search mechanism. Vista SP1 will be nothing more than a standard
> service pack, planned for the first quarter of 2008. However, the
> generalized consumer perception, and the continuous user preference
> focused on Windows XP seem to point to the fact that Vista would actually
> need a SP2 that will be a repeat of the second service pack for XP.
>



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Those who have, will have more,
those who do not have, will lose everything



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"Tibery-OS" <Tib@OS.com> wrote in message
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> Those who have, will have more,
> those who do not have, will lose everything


Those who are an IDIOT will be an IDIOT.* Those who do not have, will
not get what they do not have. But those who want will need to ask.

Just FYI



* Tiberty-OS

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