dear vista gurus,
i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
<- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
installation medium.

thanx alto
tim

LOL nice to see my predictions verified each day....

I have said that 18% of Vista users will dual boot with XP and use XP
instead of vista, because vista is crapista..
It would be more.. but most people dont even know that this is possible or
how to do it!

The steps are easy IF the laps site provide the drivers for XP (not all do).
1) Create new parition with a partition manager like acronis
2) install XP on the new parition
3) Do one of the following to restore the vista bootloader:

a)Boot into XP and reinstall the vista bootloader with this free app
http://www.vistabootpro.org/

OR

b) Use the vista dvd to repair the vista bootloader so that xp and vista
will be listed.


"tim braun" <tim.braun@freesurf.ch> wrote in message
news:1191328715.352102.284520@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> dear vista gurus,
> i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
> like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
> <- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
> installation medium.
>
> thanx alto
> tim
>

Yes but what about those restore points ???

"Tiberius" <Tibery******.com> wrote in message
news:47023e6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> LOL nice to see my predictions verified each day....
>
> I have said that 18% of Vista users will dual boot with XP and use XP
> instead of vista, because vista is crapista..
> It would be more.. but most people dont even know that this is possible or
> how to do it!
>
> The steps are easy IF the laps site provide the drivers for XP (not all
> do).
> 1) Create new parition with a partition manager like acronis
> 2) install XP on the new parition
> 3) Do one of the following to restore the vista bootloader:
>
> a)Boot into XP and reinstall the vista bootloader with this free app
> http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>
> OR
>
> b) Use the vista dvd to repair the vista bootloader so that xp and vista
> will be listed.
>
>
> "tim braun" <tim.braun@freesurf.ch> wrote in message
> news:1191328715.352102.284520@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
>> dear vista gurus,
>> i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
>> like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
>> <- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
>> installation medium.
>>
>> thanx alto
>> tim
>>
>
>

simple.. the user who will be able to chose to work on Vista or XP will
never work on vista again! ha!

Seriously now.. I think MS blundered big time with this issue.. and it did
it on puprpose.. MS doesnt really want people to dual boot...

they want one OS per machine and that would be an MS os not linux...



"dwolf" <jojonospam********.com> wrote in message
news:%236L$wkPBIHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Yes but what about those restore points ???
>
> "Tiberius" <Tibery******.com> wrote in message
> news:47023e6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> LOL nice to see my predictions verified each day....
>>
>> I have said that 18% of Vista users will dual boot with XP and use XP
>> instead of vista, because vista is crapista..
>> It would be more.. but most people dont even know that this is possible
>> or how to do it!
>>
>> The steps are easy IF the laps site provide the drivers for XP (not all
>> do).
>> 1) Create new parition with a partition manager like acronis
>> 2) install XP on the new parition
>> 3) Do one of the following to restore the vista bootloader:
>>
>> a)Boot into XP and reinstall the vista bootloader with this free app
>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>
>> OR
>>
>> b) Use the vista dvd to repair the vista bootloader so that xp and vista
>> will be listed.
>>
>>
>> "tim braun" <tim.braun@freesurf.ch> wrote in message
>> news:1191328715.352102.284520@50g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
>>> dear vista gurus,
>>> i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
>>> like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
>>> <- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
>>> installation medium.
>>>
>>> thanx alto
>>> tim
>>>
>>
>>

Windows Vista does everything Windows XP can do....
only better! Take a little time to learn Windows Vista
and you'll see for yourself. Attempting to dual-boot
Windows XP with a preinstalled version of Windows
Vista is not recommended.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/



"tim braun" wrote:

> dear vista gurus,
> i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
> like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
> <- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
> installation medium.
>
> thanx alto
> tim
>
>

Windows XP does everything Windows Vista can do....
only better! Dont waste your time fiddling with Windows Vista
and you'll see for yourself. Attempting to dual-boot
Windows XP with a preinstalled version of Windows
Vista recommended. Then after you see how faster and better XP is you can
forget about vista forever!


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:F1D590AB-87FD-4897-B434-6D9D21C5E7ED@microsoft.com...
> Windows Vista does everything Windows XP can do....
> only better! Take a little time to learn Windows Vista
> and you'll see for yourself. Attempting to dual-boot
> Windows XP with a preinstalled version of Windows
> Vista is not recommended.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows - Shell/User
> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
>
>
>
> "tim braun" wrote:
>
>> dear vista gurus,
>> i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
>> like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
>> <- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
>> installation medium.
>>
>> thanx alto
>> tim
>>
>>

Carey,

Can you tell me then please what I should do because Pro Tools still does
not work on Vista and I NEED IT. I also have several thousand dollars in
waves plugins and programs that I can't afford to update and that don't work
in Vista. What do you recommend?? besides going back in time and kicking my
own ass before I was dumb enough to have it installed?

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Windows Vista does everything Windows XP can do....
> only better! Take a little time to learn Windows Vista
> and you'll see for yourself. Attempting to dual-boot
> Windows XP with a preinstalled version of Windows
> Vista is not recommended.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows - Shell/User
> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
>
>
>
> "tim braun" wrote:
>
> > dear vista gurus,
> > i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
> > like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
> > <- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
> > installation medium.
> >
> > thanx alto
> > tim
> >
> >

If I were in your situation, I would purchase a
new hard drive and a "full version" of Windows
XP Professional (if you do not have an unused license).
Remove the current hard drive that has Windows Vista
installed and then install the new hard drive. Then
proceed to install Windows XP:

Clean Install Windows XP
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

"Auri" <Auri@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A7206E73-6963-4D58-B8DB-BC1F6B3B92A0@microsoft.com...
Carey,

Can you tell me then please what I should do because Pro Tools still does
not work on Vista and I NEED IT. I also have several thousand dollars in
waves plugins and programs that I can't afford to update and that don't work
in Vista. What do you recommend?? besides going back in time and kicking my
own ass before I was dumb enough to have it installed?

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Windows Vista does everything Windows XP can do....
> only better! Take a little time to learn Windows Vista
> and you'll see for yourself. Attempting to dual-boot
> Windows XP with a preinstalled version of Windows
> Vista is not recommended.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows - Shell/User
> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
>
>
>
> "tim braun" wrote:
>
> > dear vista gurus,
> > i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
> > like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
> > <- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
> > installation medium.
> >
> > thanx alto
> > tim
> >
> >

Thank you Carey; at last a simple, effective answer to my 17 months of hell
with Vista Business, and I get to put an axe through the Vista infected hard
drive.
Now if only I could sue Microsoft for selling an operating system unfit for
purpose.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> If I were in your situation, I would purchase a
> new hard drive and a "full version" of Windows
> XP Professional (if you do not have an unused license).
> Remove the current hard drive that has Windows Vista
> installed and then install the new hard drive. Then
> proceed to install Windows XP:
>
> Clean Install Windows XP
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Auri" <Auri@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A7206E73-6963-4D58-B8DB-BC1F6B3B92A0@microsoft.com...
> Carey,
>
> Can you tell me then please what I should do because Pro Tools still does
> not work on Vista and I NEED IT. I also have several thousand dollars in
> waves plugins and programs that I can't afford to update and that don't work
> in Vista. What do you recommend?? besides going back in time and kicking my
> own ass before I was dumb enough to have it installed?
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Windows Vista does everything Windows XP can do....
> > only better! Take a little time to learn Windows Vista
> > and you'll see for yourself. Attempting to dual-boot
> > Windows XP with a preinstalled version of Windows
> > Vista is not recommended.
> >
> > --
> > Carey Frisch
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows - Shell/User
> > Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > "tim braun" wrote:
> >
> > > dear vista gurus,
> > > i have a lot of laptops with preinstalled oem vista installed. i'd
> > > like to install xp as an alternative os. do you have a good -> how to
> > > <- link on that subject. most laptops dont even have a vista
> > > installation medium.
> > >
> > > thanx alto
> > > tim
> > >
> > >