they made a defective os,its junk.
am i stuck with this
is there any way you can get your money back
i payed 240.00 for this crap
i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
this is a os from hell
it kills me to be cheated like this
i hate to loose money on something,like this
im just going to have to uninstall
and throw the crap in trash

Hi,

If it's not recognizing your optical drive, try the fix here under method 2:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060

Incidentally, this problem exists with XP as well.


--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:973166FF-8A8C-4569-B27C-EBEE2CFE5330@microsoft.com...
> they made a defective os,its junk.
> am i stuck with this
> is there any way you can get your money back
> i payed 240.00 for this crap
> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
> this is a os from hell
> it kills me to be cheated like this
> i hate to loose money on something,like this
> im just going to have to uninstall
> and throw the crap in trash

But can he get his money back?


"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23doiM46AIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> If it's not recognizing your optical drive, try the fix here under method
> 2:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060
>
> Incidentally, this problem exists with XP as well.
>
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:973166FF-8A8C-4569-B27C-EBEE2CFE5330@microsoft.com...
>> they made a defective os,its junk.
>> am i stuck with this
>> is there any way you can get your money back
>> i payed 240.00 for this crap
>> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
>> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
>> this is a os from hell
>> it kills me to be cheated like this
>> i hate to loose money on something,like this
>> im just going to have to uninstall
>> and throw the crap in trash
>

Tiberius wrote:
> But can he get his money back?
>

Yes.

Don't know, I'm not into marketing and sales policies. Nor do we know if he
bought retail off the shelf, OEM from a distributor, or from his former best
friend.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Tiberius" <Tibery******.com> wrote in message
news:47003b4e@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> But can he get his money back?
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23doiM46AIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> If it's not recognizing your optical drive, try the fix here under method
>> 2:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060
>>
>> Incidentally, this problem exists with XP as well.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:973166FF-8A8C-4569-B27C-EBEE2CFE5330@microsoft.com...
>>> they made a defective os,its junk.
>>> am i stuck with this
>>> is there any way you can get your money back
>>> i payed 240.00 for this crap
>>> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
>>> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
>>> this is a os from hell
>>> it kills me to be cheated like this
>>> i hate to loose money on something,like this
>>> im just going to have to uninstall
>>> and throw the crap in trash
>>
>
>

or how long ago he bought it. Microsoft is usually limited to 30 days on
Retail purchases.

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%236bnZO8AIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Don't know, I'm not into marketing and sales policies. Nor do we know if
> he bought retail off the shelf, OEM from a distributor, or from his former
> best friend.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Tiberius" <Tibery******.com> wrote in message
> news:47003b4e@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> But can he get his money back?
>>
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23doiM46AIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If it's not recognizing your optical drive, try the fix here under
>>> method 2:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060
>>>
>>> Incidentally, this problem exists with XP as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:973166FF-8A8C-4569-B27C-EBEE2CFE5330@microsoft.com...
>>>> they made a defective os,its junk.
>>>> am i stuck with this
>>>> is there any way you can get your money back
>>>> i payed 240.00 for this crap
>>>> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
>>>> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
>>>> this is a os from hell
>>>> it kills me to be cheated like this
>>>> i hate to loose money on something,like this
>>>> im just going to have to uninstall
>>>> and throw the crap in trash
>>>
>>
>>
>

well if you throw away can i get a copy of your license key, to get my
virtual pc working right for some stupid reason i can't use the one that i
have, hope i'm not being selfish, i'm just curious.

--
Jonathan Perreault

Personnal Advice To You:
#1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
#2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You
#3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language

Best Comments From Users:
No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
"wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:973166FF-8A8C-4569-B27C-EBEE2CFE5330@microsoft.com...
> they made a defective os,its junk.
> am i stuck with this
> is there any way you can get your money back
> i payed 240.00 for this crap
> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
> this is a os from hell
> it kills me to be cheated like this
> i hate to loose money on something,like this
> im just going to have to uninstall
> and throw the crap in trash

i thank you guys for the help
i have had this os for a few months now..i think
i never thought they would make something this bad
sure you have problems with the other ones,but it never took much to get
something going again
in vista its like.its fixes it self where you cant ,strighten the problem out
i dont know if i can do the registry file thing or not.i think the od
should fix problems not start problems..i just cant stand working on my
computer every other day
because of a defective os system..this is crazy..i want to use my computer
not work on it..constantly fixing problems.if i ever get it totally right
im going to do a restore point.that may help.with future problems.
but i cant get to that point..

"John Barnes" wrote:

> or how long ago he bought it. Microsoft is usually limited to 30 days on
> Retail purchases.
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%236bnZO8AIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Don't know, I'm not into marketing and sales policies. Nor do we know if
> > he bought retail off the shelf, OEM from a distributor, or from his former
> > best friend.
> >
> > --
> > Best of Luck,
> >
> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >
> > "Tiberius" <Tibery******.com> wrote in message
> > news:47003b4e@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> >> But can he get his money back?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> news:%23doiM46AIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> If it's not recognizing your optical drive, try the fix here under
> >>> method 2:
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314060
> >>>
> >>> Incidentally, this problem exists with XP as well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best of Luck,
> >>>
> >>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> "wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:973166FF-8A8C-4569-B27C-EBEE2CFE5330@microsoft.com...
> >>>> they made a defective os,its junk.
> >>>> am i stuck with this
> >>>> is there any way you can get your money back
> >>>> i payed 240.00 for this crap
> >>>> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
> >>>> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
> >>>> this is a os from hell
> >>>> it kills me to be cheated like this
> >>>> i hate to loose money on something,like this
> >>>> im just going to have to uninstall
> >>>> and throw the crap in trash
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

wheelman wrote:

> they made a defective os,its junk.
> am i stuck with this
> is there any way you can get your money back
> i payed 240.00 for this crap
> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
> this is a os from hell
> it kills me to be cheated like this
> i hate to loose money on something,like this
> im just going to have to uninstall
> and throw the crap in trash

Well, you can always try moving up to a real operating system. Find it
here ...

http://www.ubuntu.com

Won't cost you a cent so at least you won't feel that you're out any money.

Cheers.

--
Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.

Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:
http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gi...-features.html

if only ubantu worked on the virtual pc, only one that works on my system is
linux xp, which is ok but it's kinda cheap as linux standards goes, you can
tell they tried to incorporate windows xp in linux.

--
Jonathan Perreault

Personnal Advice To You:
#1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
#2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You
#3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language

Best Comments From Users:
No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ghZLi.268534$fJ5.55518@pd7urf1no...
> wheelman wrote:
>
>> they made a defective os,its junk.
>> am i stuck with this
>> is there any way you can get your money back
>> i payed 240.00 for this crap
>> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
>> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
>> this is a os from hell
>> it kills me to be cheated like this
>> i hate to loose money on something,like this
>> im just going to have to uninstall
>> and throw the crap in trash
>
> Well, you can always try moving up to a real operating system. Find it
> here ...
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com
>
> Won't cost you a cent so at least you won't feel that you're out any
> money.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
> http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo
>
> Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.
>
> Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:
> http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gi...-features.html
>
>

what i did was ,a full reinstall..im thinking everything is working
i did a restore point
i hope if this defective os
decides later to stop something from working
like it did my dvd burner and cd burner
i can go to system restore and get it back
i reregisterd my copy of vista
hopefully in a week or a 120 days i want
get shut down,like i did a couple of weeks ago
i bought this off the shelf
at compusa
i wish i had my money back
and didnt have this going to kill me os

"Translator English - French - Creole" wrote:

> if only ubantu worked on the virtual pc, only one that works on my system is
> linux xp, which is ok but it's kinda cheap as linux standards goes, you can
> tell they tried to incorporate windows xp in linux.
>
> --
> Jonathan Perreault
>
> Personnal Advice To You:
> #1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
> #2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You
> #3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language
>
> Best Comments From Users:
> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults
>
> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
> foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ghZLi.268534$fJ5.55518@pd7urf1no...
> > wheelman wrote:
> >
> >> they made a defective os,its junk.
> >> am i stuck with this
> >> is there any way you can get your money back
> >> i payed 240.00 for this crap
> >> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
> >> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
> >> this is a os from hell
> >> it kills me to be cheated like this
> >> i hate to loose money on something,like this
> >> im just going to have to uninstall
> >> and throw the crap in trash
> >
> > Well, you can always try moving up to a real operating system. Find it
> > here ...
> >
> > http://www.ubuntu.com
> >
> > Won't cost you a cent so at least you won't feel that you're out any
> > money.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > --
> > Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
> > http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo
> >
> > Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.
> >
> > Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:
> > http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gi...-features.html
> >
> >
>

got a email from microsoft
they said i could get my money back
if it was within 45 days of pechase
i bought in back in june
it took me a long time to install the stupid thing
i had to get upgraded software for the things
i all ready had in my computer.
right now my computer has no sound
i dont think that will be too hard to get going
even in vista
should of could of would of
i will be more careful of anything else.that microsoft comes out with
thats for sure..

"wheelman" wrote:

> what i did was ,a full reinstall..im thinking everything is working
> i did a restore point
> i hope if this defective os
> decides later to stop something from working
> like it did my dvd burner and cd burner
> i can go to system restore and get it back
> i reregisterd my copy of vista
> hopefully in a week or a 120 days i want
> get shut down,like i did a couple of weeks ago
> i bought this off the shelf
> at compusa
> i wish i had my money back
> and didnt have this going to kill me os
>
> "Translator English - French - Creole" wrote:
>
> > if only ubantu worked on the virtual pc, only one that works on my system is
> > linux xp, which is ok but it's kinda cheap as linux standards goes, you can
> > tell they tried to incorporate windows xp in linux.
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Perreault
> >
> > Personnal Advice To You:
> > #1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
> > #2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You
> > #3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language
> >
> > Best Comments From Users:
> > No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults
> >
> > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
> > foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
> > "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:ghZLi.268534$fJ5.55518@pd7urf1no...
> > > wheelman wrote:
> > >
> > >> they made a defective os,its junk.
> > >> am i stuck with this
> > >> is there any way you can get your money back
> > >> i payed 240.00 for this crap
> > >> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
> > >> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
> > >> this is a os from hell
> > >> it kills me to be cheated like this
> > >> i hate to loose money on something,like this
> > >> im just going to have to uninstall
> > >> and throw the crap in trash
> > >
> > > Well, you can always try moving up to a real operating system. Find it
> > > here ...
> > >
> > > http://www.ubuntu.com
> > >
> > > Won't cost you a cent so at least you won't feel that you're out any
> > > money.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo
> > >
> > > Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.
> > >
> > > Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:
> > > http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gi...-features.html
> > >
> > >
> >

Did you install the drivers for your motherboard?
Did you install the drivers for you sound card, or is it, gasp.. onboard
sound?
How old are you parts?

A lot of vista problems have to do with manufacturers support
not Microsoft.

Look at from a hardware manufactures point.

Microsoft Releases a new O/S.
Lets don't bother making all of our old products work with Vista.
Everyone will have to buy new ones.
We make more money and everyone will blame Microsoft because
things don't work in Vista.

Getting this to work in vista isn't any harder
than when we went from Win 98 to XP. It's just
that it was 5 years ago and everyone forgets the headaches
XP caused when it was released.

Robert


"wheelman" <wheelman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F1B0CD49-214B-42D5-AE3F-FF1E906ED135@microsoft.com...
> got a email from microsoft
> they said i could get my money back
> if it was within 45 days of pechase
> i bought in back in june
> it took me a long time to install the stupid thing
> i had to get upgraded software for the things
> i all ready had in my computer.
> right now my computer has no sound
> i dont think that will be too hard to get going
> even in vista
> should of could of would of
> i will be more careful of anything else.that microsoft comes out with
> thats for sure..
>
> "wheelman" wrote:
>
>> what i did was ,a full reinstall..im thinking everything is working
>> i did a restore point
>> i hope if this defective os
>> decides later to stop something from working
>> like it did my dvd burner and cd burner
>> i can go to system restore and get it back
>> i reregisterd my copy of vista
>> hopefully in a week or a 120 days i want
>> get shut down,like i did a couple of weeks ago
>> i bought this off the shelf
>> at compusa
>> i wish i had my money back
>> and didnt have this going to kill me os
>>
>> "Translator English - French - Creole" wrote:
>>
>> > if only ubantu worked on the virtual pc, only one that works on my
>> > system is
>> > linux xp, which is ok but it's kinda cheap as linux standards goes, you
>> > can
>> > tell they tried to incorporate windows xp in linux.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jonathan Perreault
>> >
>> > Personnal Advice To You:
>> > #1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
>> > #2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You
>> > #3: Windows Is Bad Enough In English, Why Get It In Another Language
>> >
>> > Best Comments From Users:
>> > No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
>> > Faults
>> >
>> > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
>> > completely
>> > foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
>> > "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ghZLi.268534$fJ5.55518@pd7urf1no...
>> > > wheelman wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> they made a defective os,its junk.
>> > >> am i stuck with this
>> > >> is there any way you can get your money back
>> > >> i payed 240.00 for this crap
>> > >> i should of bought a new copy of win xp pro
>> > >> now this crap is not reconizing my cd burner and my dvd burner
>> > >> this is a os from hell
>> > >> it kills me to be cheated like this
>> > >> i hate to loose money on something,like this
>> > >> im just going to have to uninstall
>> > >> and throw the crap in trash
>> > >
>> > > Well, you can always try moving up to a real operating system. Find
>> > > it
>> > > here ...
>> > >
>> > > http://www.ubuntu.com
>> > >
>> > > Won't cost you a cent so at least you won't feel that you're out any
>> > > money.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
>> > > http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo
>> > >
>> > > Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.
>> > >
>> > > Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:
>> > > http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gi...-features.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> >

wheelman wrote:
> got a email from microsoft
> they said i could get my money back
> if it was within 45 days of pechase
> i bought in back in june
> it took me a long time to install the stupid thing
> i had to get upgraded software for the things
> i all ready had in my computer.
> right now my computer has no sound
> i dont think that will be too hard to get going
> even in vista
> should of could of would of
> i will be more careful of anything else.that microsoft comes out with
> thats for sure..
>
> "wheelman" wrote:
>

You are aware of the fact that 3rd party software broke your CD/DVD
upper/lower filters, right? Proly Nero or some such app.
That's not Vista or MS's fault.
Frank

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:32:04 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:

>wheelman wrote:
>> got a email from microsoft
>> they said i could get my money back
>> if it was within 45 days of pechase
>> i bought in back in june
>> it took me a long time to install the stupid thing
>> i had to get upgraded software for the things
>> i all ready had in my computer.
>> right now my computer has no sound
>> i dont think that will be too hard to get going
>> even in vista
>> should of could of would of
>> i will be more careful of anything else.that microsoft comes out with
>> thats for sure..
>>
>> "wheelman" wrote:
>>
>
>You are aware of the fact that 3rd party software broke your CD/DVD
>upper/lower filters, right? Proly Nero or some such app.
>That's not Vista or MS's fault.
>Frank

In your eyes nothing is ever Microsoft's fault which makes you
Microsoft's number one pimp.