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Old 09-29-2007, 02:40 PM
lucky_jack
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can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers running
Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an ethernet/DSL
switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter (802.11g) in it
running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a wireless/LAN/DSL
router.

I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP computers from the
Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the Vista
computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to the lap top
always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the "network
places" of the desktops.

What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the desktops
with XP?
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:50 PM
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RE: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

By the way, I have tried all of this with my fire walls off and with them on.
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:30 PM
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Hi,

Click start, type 'network and sharing' and hit <enter> to open the
networking dialog. Enable network discovery as well as file sharing.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
news:E4F78178-F52D-4638-B848-F7BBEF36F4C5@microsoft.com...
> My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers running
> Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an ethernet/DSL
> switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter (802.11g) in
> it
> running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a
> wireless/LAN/DSL
> router.
>
> I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP computers from
> the
> Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the Vista
> computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to the lap
> top
> always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the "network
> places" of the desktops.
>
> What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the desktops
> with XP?
> --
> lucky jack


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Old 09-29-2007, 04:30 PM
lucky_jack
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Sorry, Rick. No go. I already had network discovery enabled. Besides, the
Vista machine has no difficulties seeing files on the XP machines. It is the
other direction I am having troubles with.
--
lucky jack


"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Click start, type 'network and sharing' and hit <enter> to open the
> networking dialog. Enable network discovery as well as file sharing.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:E4F78178-F52D-4638-B848-F7BBEF36F4C5@microsoft.com...
> > My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers running
> > Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an ethernet/DSL
> > switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter (802.11g) in
> > it
> > running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a
> > wireless/LAN/DSL
> > router.
> >
> > I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP computers from
> > the
> > Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the Vista
> > computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to the lap
> > top
> > always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the "network
> > places" of the desktops.
> >
> > What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the desktops
> > with XP?
> > --
> > lucky jack

>
>

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Old 09-29-2007, 04:50 PM
Rick Rogers
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Hi,

Also make sure you are set as being on a private network. If you are set to
public the machine will not be visible to other systems.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
news:6E87B868-012E-4CF7-80DD-F4786E3F6141@microsoft.com...
> Sorry, Rick. No go. I already had network discovery enabled. Besides, the
> Vista machine has no difficulties seeing files on the XP machines. It is
> the
> other direction I am having troubles with.
> --
> lucky jack
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Click start, type 'network and sharing' and hit <enter> to open the
>> networking dialog. Enable network discovery as well as file sharing.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:E4F78178-F52D-4638-B848-F7BBEF36F4C5@microsoft.com...
>> > My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers
>> > running
>> > Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an
>> > ethernet/DSL
>> > switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter (802.11g)
>> > in
>> > it
>> > running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a
>> > wireless/LAN/DSL
>> > router.
>> >
>> > I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP computers
>> > from
>> > the
>> > Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the Vista
>> > computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to the
>> > lap
>> > top
>> > always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the
>> > "network
>> > places" of the desktops.
>> >
>> > What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the
>> > desktops
>> > with XP?
>> > --
>> > lucky jack

>>
>>


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Old 09-29-2007, 05:00 PM
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Where do I find the "private network" setting in XP?
--
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"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Also make sure you are set as being on a private network. If you are set to
> public the machine will not be visible to other systems.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:6E87B868-012E-4CF7-80DD-F4786E3F6141@microsoft.com...
> > Sorry, Rick. No go. I already had network discovery enabled. Besides, the
> > Vista machine has no difficulties seeing files on the XP machines. It is
> > the
> > other direction I am having troubles with.
> > --
> > lucky jack
> >
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Click start, type 'network and sharing' and hit <enter> to open the
> >> networking dialog. Enable network discovery as well as file sharing.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E4F78178-F52D-4638-B848-F7BBEF36F4C5@microsoft.com...
> >> > My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers
> >> > running
> >> > Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an
> >> > ethernet/DSL
> >> > switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter (802.11g)
> >> > in
> >> > it
> >> > running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a
> >> > wireless/LAN/DSL
> >> > router.
> >> >
> >> > I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP computers
> >> > from
> >> > the
> >> > Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the Vista
> >> > computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to the
> >> > lap
> >> > top
> >> > always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the
> >> > "network
> >> > places" of the desktops.
> >> >
> >> > What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the
> >> > desktops
> >> > with XP?
> >> > --
> >> > lucky jack
> >>
> >>

>
>

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Old 09-29-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Hi,

In that same dialog, click 'customize' on the right, about halfway down.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
news:BAFDB085-96C7-4E73-8451-B0692D9A1D63@microsoft.com...
> Where do I find the "private network" setting in XP?
> --
> lucky jack
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Also make sure you are set as being on a private network. If you are set
>> to
>> public the machine will not be visible to other systems.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:6E87B868-012E-4CF7-80DD-F4786E3F6141@microsoft.com...
>> > Sorry, Rick. No go. I already had network discovery enabled. Besides,
>> > the
>> > Vista machine has no difficulties seeing files on the XP machines. It
>> > is
>> > the
>> > other direction I am having troubles with.
>> > --
>> > lucky jack
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Click start, type 'network and sharing' and hit <enter> to open the
>> >> networking dialog. Enable network discovery as well as file sharing.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> >>
>> >> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:E4F78178-F52D-4638-B848-F7BBEF36F4C5@microsoft.com...
>> >> > My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers
>> >> > running
>> >> > Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an
>> >> > ethernet/DSL
>> >> > switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter
>> >> > (802.11g)
>> >> > in
>> >> > it
>> >> > running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a
>> >> > wireless/LAN/DSL
>> >> > router.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP computers
>> >> > from
>> >> > the
>> >> > Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the
>> >> > Vista
>> >> > computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to
>> >> > the
>> >> > lap
>> >> > top
>> >> > always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the
>> >> > "network
>> >> > places" of the desktops.
>> >> >
>> >> > What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the
>> >> > desktops
>> >> > with XP?
>> >> > --
>> >> > lucky jack
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>


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Old 09-29-2007, 10:00 PM
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Info on Vista file sharing.

"lucky_jack" wrote:

> Where do I find the "private network" setting in XP?
> --
> lucky jack
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Also make sure you are set as being on a private network. If you are set to
> > public the machine will not be visible to other systems.
> >
> > --
> > Best of Luck,
> >
> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >
> > "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:6E87B868-012E-4CF7-80DD-F4786E3F6141@microsoft.com...
> > > Sorry, Rick. No go. I already had network discovery enabled. Besides, the
> > > Vista machine has no difficulties seeing files on the XP machines. It is
> > > the
> > > other direction I am having troubles with.
> > > --
> > > lucky jack
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Click start, type 'network and sharing' and hit <enter> to open the
> > >> networking dialog. Enable network discovery as well as file sharing.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Best of Luck,
> > >>
> > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> > >>
> > >> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:E4F78178-F52D-4638-B848-F7BBEF36F4C5@microsoft.com...
> > >> > My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers
> > >> > running
> > >> > Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an
> > >> > ethernet/DSL
> > >> > switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter (802.11g)
> > >> > in
> > >> > it
> > >> > running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a
> > >> > wireless/LAN/DSL
> > >> > router.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP computers
> > >> > from
> > >> > the
> > >> > Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the Vista
> > >> > computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to the
> > >> > lap
> > >> > top
> > >> > always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the
> > >> > "network
> > >> > places" of the desktops.
> > >> >
> > >> > What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the
> > >> > desktops
> > >> > with XP?
> > >> > --
> > >> > lucky jack
> > >>
> > >>

> >
> >

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Old 09-30-2007, 09:20 AM
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

OK. Lets take this one step at a time. With all I have done in implementing
the responses I have received the symptoms I see have changed.

First step, lets get the computers all talking together and lets get the
"ping" problems fixed first.

At this point I can:
1) From the Vista laptop - ping desk top (XP) "a" by name and IP.
2) From desktop "a" - ping lap top (Vista) by name and IP.
3) From desktop "b" (XP) - ping desktop "a" by IP but not by name
4) From desktop "b" - ping laptop by IP but not by name.

I can not:
1) From the lap top - ping desktop "b" by name or IP.
2) From desktop "a" - ping desktop "b" by name or IP.
3) From desktop "b" - ping desktop "a" by name (IP works).
4) From desktop "b" - png laptop by name (IP works).

Let's start with the basic question, what is wrong and on what machine and
how do I verify it. (I am NOT going to make any more changes until I can SEE
what the problem is! And I am only going to proceed one step at a time.)

--
lucky jack


"lucky_jack" wrote:

> Where do I find the "private network" setting in XP?
> --
> lucky jack
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Also make sure you are set as being on a private network. If you are set to
> > public the machine will not be visible to other systems.
> >
> > --
> > Best of Luck,
> >
> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >
> > "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:6E87B868-012E-4CF7-80DD-F4786E3F6141@microsoft.com...
> > > Sorry, Rick. No go. I already had network discovery enabled. Besides, the
> > > Vista machine has no difficulties seeing files on the XP machines. It is
> > > the
> > > other direction I am having troubles with.
> > > --
> > > lucky jack
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Click start, type 'network and sharing' and hit <enter> to open the
> > >> networking dialog. Enable network discovery as well as file sharing.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Best of Luck,
> > >>
> > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> > >>
> > >> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:E4F78178-F52D-4638-B848-F7BBEF36F4C5@microsoft.com...
> > >> > My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers
> > >> > running
> > >> > Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an
> > >> > ethernet/DSL
> > >> > switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter (802.11g)
> > >> > in
> > >> > it
> > >> > running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a
> > >> > wireless/LAN/DSL
> > >> > router.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP computers
> > >> > from
> > >> > the
> > >> > Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the Vista
> > >> > computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to the
> > >> > lap
> > >> > top
> > >> > always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the
> > >> > "network
> > >> > places" of the desktops.
> > >> >
> > >> > What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the
> > >> > desktops
> > >> > with XP?
> > >> > --
> > >> > lucky jack
> > >>
> > >>

> >
> >

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Old 09-30-2007, 11:30 AM
Rick Rogers
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Hi,

On "a" and "b", open a command prompt and run ipconfig /all. What mode type
is each in?

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
news:935CAA75-3ACA-47CF-BF33-48F0310509CD@microsoft.com...
> OK. Lets take this one step at a time. With all I have done in
> implementing
> the responses I have received the symptoms I see have changed.
>
> First step, lets get the computers all talking together and lets get the
> "ping" problems fixed first.
>
> At this point I can:
> 1) From the Vista laptop - ping desk top (XP) "a" by name and IP.
> 2) From desktop "a" - ping lap top (Vista) by name and IP.
> 3) From desktop "b" (XP) - ping desktop "a" by IP but not by name
> 4) From desktop "b" - ping laptop by IP but not by name.
>
> I can not:
> 1) From the lap top - ping desktop "b" by name or IP.
> 2) From desktop "a" - ping desktop "b" by name or IP.
> 3) From desktop "b" - ping desktop "a" by name (IP works).
> 4) From desktop "b" - png laptop by name (IP works).
>
> Let's start with the basic question, what is wrong and on what machine and
> how do I verify it. (I am NOT going to make any more changes until I can
> SEE
> what the problem is! And I am only going to proceed one step at a time.)
>
> --
> lucky jack
>
>
> "lucky_jack" wrote:
>
>> Where do I find the "private network" setting in XP?
>> --
>> lucky jack
>>
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Also make sure you are set as being on a private network. If you are
>> > set to
>> > public the machine will not be visible to other systems.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best of Luck,
>> >
>> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> >
>> > "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:6E87B868-012E-4CF7-80DD-F4786E3F6141@microsoft.com...
>> > > Sorry, Rick. No go. I already had network discovery enabled. Besides,
>> > > the
>> > > Vista machine has no difficulties seeing files on the XP machines. It
>> > > is
>> > > the
>> > > other direction I am having troubles with.
>> > > --
>> > > lucky jack
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> Click start, type 'network and sharing' and hit <enter> to open the
>> > >> networking dialog. Enable network discovery as well as file sharing.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Best of Luck,
>> > >>
>> > >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> > >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> > >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> > >>
>> > >> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:E4F78178-F52D-4638-B848-F7BBEF36F4C5@microsoft.com...
>> > >> > My configuration for this problem started as two desktop computers
>> > >> > running
>> > >> > Wndows XP Pro both connected to my private work group via an
>> > >> > ethernet/DSL
>> > >> > switch. Then I purchased a lap top with a wireless addapter
>> > >> > (802.11g)
>> > >> > in
>> > >> > it
>> > >> > running Vista Home Premium and swapped my Lan switch with a
>> > >> > wireless/LAN/DSL
>> > >> > router.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I have it all working except: While I can ping the two XP
>> > >> > computers
>> > >> > from
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > Vista computer and access the files on the XP computers from the
>> > >> > Vista
>> > >> > computer, I can not do the reverse. A ping from either desktop to
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > lap
>> > >> > top
>> > >> > always times out, and I can not get the lap top to appear in the
>> > >> > "network
>> > >> > places" of the desktops.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > What must I do to get access to the lap top with Vista from the
>> > >> > desktops
>> > >> > with XP?
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > lucky jack
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >


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Old 09-30-2007, 12:00 PM
lucky_jack
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Rick,
I do not find a "mode type" but I do find a "node type" so I assume that
is what you mean.

On "a" it is "mixed". On "b" it is "unknown". (For completeness, on the
laptop it is "hybrid".)
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"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On "a" and "b", open a command prompt and run ipconfig /all. What mode type
> is each in?
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>


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Old 09-30-2007, 02:20 PM
Rick Rogers
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Hi,

Fat fingers there, it should be "node". Ok, do this on both machines: Run
regedit, navigate here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Netbt\Parameters

Locate the Dhcpnodetype string and set it to 1 on both systems. The Vista
laptop is fine as hybrid.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Rick,
> I do not find a "mode type" but I do find a "node type" so I assume
> that
> is what you mean.
>
> On "a" it is "mixed". On "b" it is "unknown". (For completeness, on the
> laptop it is "hybrid".)
> --
> lucky jack
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On "a" and "b", open a command prompt and run ipconfig /all. What mode
>> type
>> is each in?
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>

>


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Old 09-30-2007, 04:20 PM
lucky_jack
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Hi Rick,
On machine "a" it was a four (I set it to 1). On machine "b" the
parameter does not exist, so I added it to mirror the one on "a". Is there an
action needed to activate these new registry values? (I am guessing a reboot
of both desktops is needed.)

And is there a special meaning to the Dhcpnodetype registration parameter on
"b" not being there at all? When I installed the drivers for the router I was
expecting instructions to put something on the "b" machine, but the install
process was faulty and I had to get product support (for the router) to help
me. I gave them the complete configuration of the net, but they didn't
mention anything about putting anything on the "b" computer (and even though
I wondered about it, I didn't ask). If so I will call them again to get the
instructions. I have to also wonder about the Vista laptop, but I can imagine
it already had what ever support code is needed for this router.

BTW, before I got your last post, I had pings running from all machines to
all machines, and I was able to copy files from both desktops to the laptop
(but not from the laptop to the desktops). It turns out that I have two
firewalls on "b" and they were both on. One is the Windows Firewall and the
other was in Norton Internet Security.

I saw some posts about sharing files that I will investigate later, once I
am certain I have this "ping" problem fixed and stabilized.

Thanks,
Jack
--
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"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Fat fingers there, it should be "node". Ok, do this on both machines: Run
> regedit, navigate here:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Netbt\Parameters
>
> Locate the Dhcpnodetype string and set it to 1 on both systems. The Vista
> laptop is fine as hybrid.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>


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Old 09-30-2007, 04:50 PM
Rick Rogers
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Hi,

Yes, you need to reboot for the new entry to be active.

"b" was messed up because the entry was missing. Most times, you don't
actually need router software. Simply type the gateway address into IE's
address bar to access it. This can be seen in the same ipconfig command.
Normally, it's something like 192.168.0.1, just preface it with the normal
http:// prefix.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Rick,
> On machine "a" it was a four (I set it to 1). On machine "b" the
> parameter does not exist, so I added it to mirror the one on "a". Is there
> an
> action needed to activate these new registry values? (I am guessing a
> reboot
> of both desktops is needed.)
>
> And is there a special meaning to the Dhcpnodetype registration parameter
> on
> "b" not being there at all? When I installed the drivers for the router I
> was
> expecting instructions to put something on the "b" machine, but the
> install
> process was faulty and I had to get product support (for the router) to
> help
> me. I gave them the complete configuration of the net, but they didn't
> mention anything about putting anything on the "b" computer (and even
> though
> I wondered about it, I didn't ask). If so I will call them again to get
> the
> instructions. I have to also wonder about the Vista laptop, but I can
> imagine
> it already had what ever support code is needed for this router.
>
> BTW, before I got your last post, I had pings running from all machines to
> all machines, and I was able to copy files from both desktops to the
> laptop
> (but not from the laptop to the desktops). It turns out that I have two
> firewalls on "b" and they were both on. One is the Windows Firewall and
> the
> other was in Norton Internet Security.
>
> I saw some posts about sharing files that I will investigate later, once I
> am certain I have this "ping" problem fixed and stabilized.
>
> Thanks,
> Jack
> --
> lucky jack
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Fat fingers there, it should be "node". Ok, do this on both machines: Run
>> regedit, navigate here:
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Netbt\Parameters
>>
>> Locate the Dhcpnodetype string and set it to 1 on both systems. The Vista
>> laptop is fine as hybrid.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>

>


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Old 09-30-2007, 06:00 PM
lucky_jack
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Re: can't ping Vista wireless lap top from LAN XP computers

Thanks, Rick.
That got all of the ping problems resolved, at least for the moment. I
will be giving all I have done some time to "settle" just to make sure.

BTW, in order to ping from "b" to the laptop by name I had to reboot the
laptop. I guess the next test will be tomorrow after a night of powered off
machines. Then on to finding out about the file sharing procedures.

Rick, many thanks for your time and patience.

Luck_Jack
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"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, you need to reboot for the new entry to be active.
>
> "b" was messed up because the entry was missing. Most times, you don't
> actually need router software. Simply type the gateway address into IE's
> address bar to access it. This can be seen in the same ipconfig command.
> Normally, it's something like 192.168.0.1, just preface it with the normal
> http:// prefix.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "lucky_jack" <jackkistler@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:5B3A898D-F542-4632-AB31-64A6E6E174A1@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Rick,
> > On machine "a" it was a four (I set it to 1). On machine "b" the
> > parameter does not exist, so I added it to mirror the one on "a". Is there
> > an
> > action needed to activate these new registry values? (I am guessing a
> > reboot
> > of both desktops is needed.)
> >
> > And is there a special meaning to the Dhcpnodetype registration parameter
> > on
> > "b" not being there at all? When I installed the drivers for the router I
> > was
> > expecting instructions to put something on the "b" machine, but the
> > install
> > process was faulty and I had to get product support (for the router) to
> > help
> > me. I gave them the complete configuration of the net, but they didn't
> > mention anything about putting anything on the "b" computer (and even
> > though
> > I wondered about it, I didn't ask). If so I will call them again to get
> > the
> > instructions. I have to also wonder about the Vista laptop, but I can
> > imagine
> > it already had what ever support code is needed for this router.
> >
> > BTW, before I got your last post, I had pings running from all machines to
> > all machines, and I was able to copy files from both desktops to the
> > laptop
> > (but not from the laptop to the desktops). It turns out that I have two
> > firewalls on "b" and they were both on. One is the Windows Firewall and
> > the
> > other was in Norton Internet Security.
> >
> > I saw some posts about sharing files that I will investigate later, once I
> > am certain I have this "ping" problem fixed and stabilized.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jack
> > --
> > lucky jack
> >
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Fat fingers there, it should be "node". Ok, do this on both machines: Run
> >> regedit, navigate here:
> >>
> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Netbt\Parameters
> >>
> >> Locate the Dhcpnodetype string and set it to 1 on both systems. The Vista
> >> laptop is fine as hybrid.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
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