I upgraded my PC from XP Media Center to Vista Home Premium and its
performance was poor and became very poor.
I fixed this by doing the following.
Backed up all current E-mail’s and contacts and files in My Documents.
Backed up all my desktop shortcuts.
Created a new Administrator Account.
Logged off my current account.
Logged on to my new account and deleted the old account.
Then transferred all the stuff I had backed up into the newly created
account. This has made a huge change to how Vista performs. I don’t know
why but it has.
When you log onto your new account (before you delete the old one) you may
want to go back into you’re old My Documents folder. To do this, do the
following:
1. Go to C:\Users
2. Right Click the folder with the same name as your old user name, select
properties > Security Tab > Advanced > Owner tab > Edit > click your new user
account > click OK on the 3 open windows.
3. Double click this folder to brows its contents.
4. This is how you take ownership of a folder or file, you can now enter
this folder and take out anything you may have left behind before you delete
your old account.


----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

Hi goorambatman,

The main reason why you had poor performance from Vista is because you
carried out an upgrade to XP instead of doing a clean install, details of
which can be found in my post 'Clean Install Windows Vista Using Upgrade
Media' in the newsgroup 'Windows Vista Installation and Setup'. Doing it this
way removes the problem of driver conflicts which can arise when upgrading,
Files left behind from the old operating system can also cause problems. What
you should do before carrying out the above procedure is to backup all your
documents to removable media. You can then restore your documents from this
backup once you have installed Vista.
Dwarf

"goorambatman" wrote:

> I upgraded my PC from XP Media Center to Vista Home Premium and its
> performance was poor and became very poor.
> I fixed this by doing the following.
> Backed up all current E-mail’s and contacts and files in My Documents.
> Backed up all my desktop shortcuts.
> Created a new Administrator Account.
> Logged off my current account.
> Logged on to my new account and deleted the old account.
> Then transferred all the stuff I had backed up into the newly created
> account. This has made a huge change to how Vista performs. I don’t know
> why but it has.
> When you log onto your new account (before you delete the old one) you may
> want to go back into you’re old My Documents folder. To do this, do the
> following:
> 1. Go to C:\Users
> 2. Right Click the folder with the same name as your old user name, select
> properties > Security Tab > Advanced > Owner tab > Edit > click your new user
> account > click OK on the 3 open windows.
> 3. Double click this folder to brows its contents.
> 4. This is how you take ownership of a folder or file, you can now enter
> this folder and take out anything you may have left behind before you delete
> your old account.
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

While I agree for the most part that doing a clean install
is often the best way to go, I do want to clarify something.

Upgrade installs are "clean installs", as far as the operating system
itself is concerned. Vista uses an image based install. This is different
than previous versions of Windows.
When you do an upgrade install, an inventory is taken of all your stuff-
pics, documents, music, video, installed programs and etc.
It then decides what can be put/installed back, it takes all that stuff
and moves it aside. It then puts down a brand new/clean OS install.
Then, all the stuff that passes muster is imported back into the OS.
The stuff that the Vista install did not think was compatible is put
into a folder called Windows.old. There are *no* old operating system
files left behind. In fact, the "upgrade install" has become the new
"repair install" that was in XP.
The problems mostly happen because some of the programs that
the Vista install passed as compatible, turn out not to be.

The biggest problem I think with upgrade installs are folks not
uninstalling security software before starting the procedure.
Antivirus, spyware, firewalls, all that sort of stuff should be uninstalled
prior to the upgrade. Don't leave it up to the Vista install to tell you
or do it itself. Unplugging peripheral devices before the install
may also help. Then just plug each device in one by one after the OS
install is complete. Cleaning/deleting junk out of the computer and
then defragging is also be beneficial to upgrade installs.
The more stuff, the more programs a user has can cause upgrade installs
to seemingly go on forever. Several hours is not unheard of for some
bloated systems doing upgrade installs.

If you knew all this already, my apologies. I just wanted to clarify that
*no* old parts of the operating system are left behind. I've done
a few upgrade installs (testing), and they went well. However, I do agree
that it would be better for most users to just go ahead and do a
clean install. It may seem like a pain to reinstall software and import
files back, but it will probably cause less problems, too. Not to mention,
a clean install may only take 20 to 30 minutes.

Take care,

Michael

* Dwarf:
> Hi goorambatman,
>
> The main reason why you had poor performance from Vista is because you
> carried out an upgrade to XP instead of doing a clean install, details of
> which can be found in my post 'Clean Install Windows Vista Using Upgrade
> Media' in the newsgroup 'Windows Vista Installation and Setup'. Doing it this
> way removes the problem of driver conflicts which can arise when upgrading,
> Files left behind from the old operating system can also cause problems. What
> you should do before carrying out the above procedure is to backup all your
> documents to removable media. You can then restore your documents from this
> backup once you have installed Vista.
> Dwarf
>
> "goorambatman" wrote:
>
>> I upgraded my PC from XP Media Center to Vista Home Premium and its
>> performance was poor and became very poor.
>> I fixed this by doing the following.
>> Backed up all current E-mail’s and contacts and files in My Documents.
>> Backed up all my desktop shortcuts.
>> Created a new Administrator Account.
>> Logged off my current account.
>> Logged on to my new account and deleted the old account.
>> Then transferred all the stuff I had backed up into the newly created
>> account. This has made a huge change to how Vista performs. I don’t know
>> why but it has.
>> When you log onto your new account (before you delete the old one) you may
>> want to go back into you’re old My Documents folder. To do this, do the
>> following:
>> 1. Go to C:\Users
>> 2. Right Click the folder with the same name as your old user name, select
>> properties > Security Tab > Advanced > Owner tab > Edit > click your new user
>> account > click OK on the 3 open windows.
>> 3. Double click this folder to brows its contents.
>> 4. This is how you take ownership of a folder or file, you can now enter
>> this folder and take out anything you may have left behind before you delete
>> your old account.
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

Very good advice, especially since some of the "Security" (Ha!) stuff is
very invasive and sometimes the opposite of what it claims.

Backup what you can, uninstall, cross fingers, insert DVD / CD :)


MICHAEL wrote:
> While I agree for the most part that doing a clean install
> is often the best way to go, I do want to clarify something.
>
> Upgrade installs are "clean installs", as far as the operating system
> itself is concerned. Vista uses an image based install. This is different
> than previous versions of Windows.
> When you do an upgrade install, an inventory is taken of all your stuff-
> pics, documents, music, video, installed programs and etc.
> It then decides what can be put/installed back, it takes all that stuff
> and moves it aside. It then puts down a brand new/clean OS install.
> Then, all the stuff that passes muster is imported back into the OS.
> The stuff that the Vista install did not think was compatible is put
> into a folder called Windows.old. There are *no* old operating system
> files left behind. In fact, the "upgrade install" has become the new
> "repair install" that was in XP.
> The problems mostly happen because some of the programs that
> the Vista install passed as compatible, turn out not to be.
>
> The biggest problem I think with upgrade installs are folks not
> uninstalling security software before starting the procedure.
> Antivirus, spyware, firewalls, all that sort of stuff should be uninstalled
> prior to the upgrade. Don't leave it up to the Vista install to tell you
> or do it itself. Unplugging peripheral devices before the install
> may also help. Then just plug each device in one by one after the OS
> install is complete. Cleaning/deleting junk out of the computer and
> then defragging is also be beneficial to upgrade installs.
> The more stuff, the more programs a user has can cause upgrade installs
> to seemingly go on forever. Several hours is not unheard of for some
> bloated systems doing upgrade installs.
>
> If you knew all this already, my apologies. I just wanted to clarify that
> *no* old parts of the operating system are left behind. I've done
> a few upgrade installs (testing), and they went well. However, I do agree
> that it would be better for most users to just go ahead and do a
> clean install. It may seem like a pain to reinstall software and import
> files back, but it will probably cause less problems, too. Not to mention,
> a clean install may only take 20 to 30 minutes.
>
> Take care,
>
> Michael
>
> * Dwarf:
>> Hi goorambatman,
>>
>> The main reason why you had poor performance from Vista is because you
>> carried out an upgrade to XP instead of doing a clean install, details of
>> which can be found in my post 'Clean Install Windows Vista Using Upgrade
>> Media' in the newsgroup 'Windows Vista Installation and Setup'. Doing it this
>> way removes the problem of driver conflicts which can arise when upgrading,
>> Files left behind from the old operating system can also cause problems. What
>> you should do before carrying out the above procedure is to backup all your
>> documents to removable media. You can then restore your documents from this
>> backup once you have installed Vista.
>> Dwarf
>>
>> "goorambatman" wrote:
>>
>>> I upgraded my PC from XP Media Center to Vista Home Premium and its
>>> performance was poor and became very poor.
>>> I fixed this by doing the following.
>>> Backed up all current E-mail’s and contacts and files in My Documents.
>>> Backed up all my desktop shortcuts.
>>> Created a new Administrator Account.
>>> Logged off my current account.
>>> Logged on to my new account and deleted the old account.
>>> Then transferred all the stuff I had backed up into the newly created
>>> account. This has made a huge change to how Vista performs. I don’t know
>>> why but it has.
>>> When you log onto your new account (before you delete the old one) you may
>>> want to go back into you’re old My Documents folder. To do this, do the
>>> following:
>>> 1. Go to C:\Users
>>> 2. Right Click the folder with the same name as your old user name, select
>>> properties > Security Tab > Advanced > Owner tab > Edit > click your new user
>>> account > click OK on the 3 open windows.
>>> 3. Double click this folder to brows its contents.
>>> 4. This is how you take ownership of a folder or file, you can now enter
>>> this folder and take out anything you may have left behind before you delete
>>> your old account.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:eLE53PRAIHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Very good advice, especially since some of the "Security" (Ha!) stuff is
> very invasive and sometimes the opposite of what it claims.

All security stuff is invasive.. it isn't doing anything if it isn't.

dennis@home wrote:
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:eLE53PRAIHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Very good advice, especially since some of the "Security" (Ha!) stuff
>> is very invasive and sometimes the opposite of what it claims.
>
> All security stuff is invasive.. it isn't doing anything if it isn't.
>
>


Quite right, which is why I put "Security" in quotes, IMHO some that
makes that claim is designed to be invasive for the wrong reasons :)

I definatly agree with that, it is always best to start with a clean slate.

I would just like to remind every one, I AM NOT REPORTING A PROBLEM HERE!

I am reporting a solution to a problem. READ THE ORIGINAL POST AND IT'S
TITLE CAREFULLY!

I don't know why or how this worked, i am just recomending every one who has
had performance issues after an upgrade to do what i described in the
original post.

I hope this has resolved other people's issues.

In article <D1B365E6-B11C-45DA-A67F-EF11BD96DD51@microsoft.com>,
goorambatman********.com says...
> I don't know why or how this worked, i am just recomending every one who has
> had performance issues after an upgrade to do what i described in the
> original post.

Don't take this wrong, you didn't increase performance, you removed
clutter - there is a difference. A smaller profile and smaller number of
apps loading will always give you better performance, same happens in
XP.

A performance issue would be when you have crappy video drivers or some
other driver or firmware issue and have applied updates to fix it, or
have replaced some older hardware.

If you clear/clean crap from your profile on a normal basis you will
retain performance.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)