Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find

A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
can not find 'any' things

Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
scrap?

Before anything can be fixed or reported, you need to describe a specific
situation where it doesn't work. Perhaps your file was in a location that
hasn't been indexed. You can modify the locations on your computer that are
indexed.

I personally have had no problems with Vista's search. In fact, it is one of
my favorite features. It certainly isn't scrap.

--
Robert Firth
http://www.winvistainfo.org

"JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
news:ewgj8lJ#HHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature',
> Vista search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>
> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
> can not find 'any' things
>
> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close
> to scrap?

Before anything can be fixed or reported, you need to describe a specific
situation where it doesn't work. Perhaps your file was in a location that
hasn't been indexed. You can modify the locations on your computer that are
indexed.

I personally have had no problems with Vista's search. In fact, it is one of
my favorite features. It certainly isn't scrap.

--
Robert Firth
http://www.winvistainfo.org

"JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
news:ewgj8lJ#HHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature',
> Vista search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>
> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
> can not find 'any' things
>
> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close
> to scrap?

"JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
news:ewgj8lJ%23HHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature',
> Vista search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>
> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
> can not find 'any' things
>
> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close
> to scrap?


While waiting for the fix you could also try reading the manual. Extreme
advice I appreciate, but it often does the trick.

--
Jon

"JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
news:ewgj8lJ%23HHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature',
> Vista search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>
> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
> can not find 'any' things
>
> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close
> to scrap?


While waiting for the fix you could also try reading the manual. Extreme
advice I appreciate, but it often does the trick.

--
Jon

Vista search is great.
It is one of the many things that I like about Vista.

"JethroUK©" wrote:

> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
> search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>
> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
> can not find 'any' things
>
> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
> scrap?
>
>

Vista search is great.
It is one of the many things that I like about Vista.

"JethroUK©" wrote:

> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
> search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>
> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
> can not find 'any' things
>
> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
> scrap?
>
>

You are not the only one.

I have been extremely frustrated with the new, "improved" search tool. I
routinely search for dates and times files were accessed, created, or
modified. The search for "accessed" no longer exists, as near as I can tell.
What I am searching for, often, is creation, access, or modification of
system files. There have been numerous times when I use the Advanced Search
capabilities to search everything (including hidden and system files) , it
takes forever (since much of that stuff is not indexed) and comes up blank.
I take a look manually (after jumping through all sorts of hoops to be
granted access to even look at my own files), and easily find a dozen files
that fit the search criteria.

It may be better at searching within files (which the old search tool only
pretended to be able to do), but is is a shadow of its former self with
respect to the functions I routinely used it to perform.

Nancy

"JethroUK©" wrote:

> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
> search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>
> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
> can not find 'any' things
>
> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
> scrap?
>
>

You are not the only one.

I have been extremely frustrated with the new, "improved" search tool. I
routinely search for dates and times files were accessed, created, or
modified. The search for "accessed" no longer exists, as near as I can tell.
What I am searching for, often, is creation, access, or modification of
system files. There have been numerous times when I use the Advanced Search
capabilities to search everything (including hidden and system files) , it
takes forever (since much of that stuff is not indexed) and comes up blank.
I take a look manually (after jumping through all sorts of hoops to be
granted access to even look at my own files), and easily find a dozen files
that fit the search criteria.

It may be better at searching within files (which the old search tool only
pretended to be able to do), but is is a shadow of its former self with
respect to the functions I routinely used it to perform.

Nancy

"JethroUK©" wrote:

> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
> search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>
> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
> can not find 'any' things
>
> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
> scrap?
>
>

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:16:04 -0700, nlreeves
<nlreeves@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>You are not the only one.
Vista search tool is BLIND. I'm looking at a file which I had to
search manually, and still vista cannot find it.
All this hoopla about indexing and disk thrashing that I had to
endure for months was all in vain.
Vista Search is totally worthless.

>
>I have been extremely frustrated with the new, "improved" search tool. I
>routinely search for dates and times files were accessed, created, or
>modified. The search for "accessed" no longer exists, as near as I can tell.
> What I am searching for, often, is creation, access, or modification of
>system files. There have been numerous times when I use the Advanced Search
>capabilities to search everything (including hidden and system files) , it
>takes forever (since much of that stuff is not indexed) and comes up blank.
>I take a look manually (after jumping through all sorts of hoops to be
>granted access to even look at my own files), and easily find a dozen files
>that fit the search criteria.
>
>It may be better at searching within files (which the old search tool only
>pretended to be able to do), but is is a shadow of its former self with
>respect to the functions I routinely used it to perform.
>
>Nancy
>
>"JethroUK©" wrote:
>
>> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
>> search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>>
>> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
>> can not find 'any' things
>>
>> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
>> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
>> scrap?
>>
>>

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:16:04 -0700, nlreeves
<nlreeves@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>You are not the only one.
Vista search tool is BLIND. I'm looking at a file which I had to
search manually, and still vista cannot find it.
All this hoopla about indexing and disk thrashing that I had to
endure for months was all in vain.
Vista Search is totally worthless.

>
>I have been extremely frustrated with the new, "improved" search tool. I
>routinely search for dates and times files were accessed, created, or
>modified. The search for "accessed" no longer exists, as near as I can tell.
> What I am searching for, often, is creation, access, or modification of
>system files. There have been numerous times when I use the Advanced Search
>capabilities to search everything (including hidden and system files) , it
>takes forever (since much of that stuff is not indexed) and comes up blank.
>I take a look manually (after jumping through all sorts of hoops to be
>granted access to even look at my own files), and easily find a dozen files
>that fit the search criteria.
>
>It may be better at searching within files (which the old search tool only
>pretended to be able to do), but is is a shadow of its former self with
>respect to the functions I routinely used it to perform.
>
>Nancy
>
>"JethroUK©" wrote:
>
>> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
>> search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>>
>> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
>> can not find 'any' things
>>
>> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
>> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
>> scrap?
>>
>>

And I thought it was just me.

If you right click on a disk drive Icon there's another form of indexing
going on, seems like they really didn't want you to turn it off, but
unless you search constantly what's the point? If you search say once a
week for something you lost it takes 5 minutes with XP, with Vista the
****ed indexing takes weeks. That adds up to an awful lot of 5 minute
sessions.

It's even more ridiculous when the resulting search can't find anything :)


Wala Wala wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:16:04 -0700, nlreeves
> <nlreeves@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> You are not the only one.
> Vista search tool is BLIND. I'm looking at a file which I had to
> search manually, and still vista cannot find it.
> All this hoopla about indexing and disk thrashing that I had to
> endure for months was all in vain.
> Vista Search is totally worthless.
>
>> I have been extremely frustrated with the new, "improved" search tool. I
>> routinely search for dates and times files were accessed, created, or
>> modified. The search for "accessed" no longer exists, as near as I can tell.
>> What I am searching for, often, is creation, access, or modification of
>> system files. There have been numerous times when I use the Advanced Search
>> capabilities to search everything (including hidden and system files) , it
>> takes forever (since much of that stuff is not indexed) and comes up blank.
>> I take a look manually (after jumping through all sorts of hoops to be
>> granted access to even look at my own files), and easily find a dozen files
>> that fit the search criteria.
>>
>> It may be better at searching within files (which the old search tool only
>> pretended to be able to do), but is is a shadow of its former self with
>> respect to the functions I routinely used it to perform.
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>> "JethroUK©" wrote:
>>
>>> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
>>> search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>>>
>>> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
>>> can not find 'any' things
>>>
>>> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
>>> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
>>> scrap?
>>>
>>>

And I thought it was just me.

If you right click on a disk drive Icon there's another form of indexing
going on, seems like they really didn't want you to turn it off, but
unless you search constantly what's the point? If you search say once a
week for something you lost it takes 5 minutes with XP, with Vista the
****ed indexing takes weeks. That adds up to an awful lot of 5 minute
sessions.

It's even more ridiculous when the resulting search can't find anything :)


Wala Wala wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:16:04 -0700, nlreeves
> <nlreeves@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> You are not the only one.
> Vista search tool is BLIND. I'm looking at a file which I had to
> search manually, and still vista cannot find it.
> All this hoopla about indexing and disk thrashing that I had to
> endure for months was all in vain.
> Vista Search is totally worthless.
>
>> I have been extremely frustrated with the new, "improved" search tool. I
>> routinely search for dates and times files were accessed, created, or
>> modified. The search for "accessed" no longer exists, as near as I can tell.
>> What I am searching for, often, is creation, access, or modification of
>> system files. There have been numerous times when I use the Advanced Search
>> capabilities to search everything (including hidden and system files) , it
>> takes forever (since much of that stuff is not indexed) and comes up blank.
>> I take a look manually (after jumping through all sorts of hoops to be
>> granted access to even look at my own files), and easily find a dozen files
>> that fit the search criteria.
>>
>> It may be better at searching within files (which the old search tool only
>> pretended to be able to do), but is is a shadow of its former self with
>> respect to the functions I routinely used it to perform.
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>> "JethroUK©" wrote:
>>
>>> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature', Vista
>>> search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>>>
>>> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
>>> can not find 'any' things
>>>
>>> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
>>> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close to
>>> scrap?
>>>
>>>

"Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
news:%23BKuloJ%23HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Before anything can be fixed or reported, you need to describe a specific
> situation where it doesn't work.

I had Vista for days (not years) and it has failed to find things on several
occassions already - I can only speak for the stuff i know is there that it
didn't find - who is to say the search function isn't missing things all the
time - hence why it is totally redundant


> Perhaps your file was in a location that hasn't been indexed.

perhaps it hasn't - who knows
it never used to need 'indexing'
assume i don't know what indexing is
i do know that if i copy/paste files it can find them but again that relies
on me knowing where stuff is, and 'search'ing by definition means the user
doesn't know where stuff is - that's the whole point of letting the machine
search


> You can modify the locations on your computer that are indexed.
> I personally have had no problems with Vista's search.

sure you do - you just haven't noticed yet

> In fact, it is one of my favorite features.

i can only say you're very easily pleased

> It certainly isn't scrap.

for sure it is - this is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge problem and will be costing
companies millions already, such that all of Microsoft Vista's other
problems pale into insignificance by comparison - i certainly do not want
any other update from Microsoft that does not address this problem - until
such times i have to be content with physically looking for files on my P.C.
which is nothing short of absurd

It is bad enough that M/Soft sell software that they know for a fact is
littered with problems and having such a large customer base, any issues can
be identified very, very quickly, but they should act upon it - they know
this is a problem and are certainly in a position to fix it by morning (2000
programmers working through the night would certainly find the bug) -
frankly i can't understand why they need the embaressment & not trying to
cover it up before too many people notice

this is 2007 and not 1980 - isn't it????????????????


> --
> Robert Firth
> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>
> "JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
> news:ewgj8lJ#HHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature',
>> Vista search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>>
>> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
>> can not find 'any' things
>>
>> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
>> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close
>> to scrap?
>

"Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
news:%23BKuloJ%23HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Before anything can be fixed or reported, you need to describe a specific
> situation where it doesn't work.

I had Vista for days (not years) and it has failed to find things on several
occassions already - I can only speak for the stuff i know is there that it
didn't find - who is to say the search function isn't missing things all the
time - hence why it is totally redundant


> Perhaps your file was in a location that hasn't been indexed.

perhaps it hasn't - who knows
it never used to need 'indexing'
assume i don't know what indexing is
i do know that if i copy/paste files it can find them but again that relies
on me knowing where stuff is, and 'search'ing by definition means the user
doesn't know where stuff is - that's the whole point of letting the machine
search


> You can modify the locations on your computer that are indexed.
> I personally have had no problems with Vista's search.

sure you do - you just haven't noticed yet

> In fact, it is one of my favorite features.

i can only say you're very easily pleased

> It certainly isn't scrap.

for sure it is - this is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge problem and will be costing
companies millions already, such that all of Microsoft Vista's other
problems pale into insignificance by comparison - i certainly do not want
any other update from Microsoft that does not address this problem - until
such times i have to be content with physically looking for files on my P.C.
which is nothing short of absurd

It is bad enough that M/Soft sell software that they know for a fact is
littered with problems and having such a large customer base, any issues can
be identified very, very quickly, but they should act upon it - they know
this is a problem and are certainly in a position to fix it by morning (2000
programmers working through the night would certainly find the bug) -
frankly i can't understand why they need the embaressment & not trying to
cover it up before too many people notice

this is 2007 and not 1980 - isn't it????????????????


> --
> Robert Firth
> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>
> "JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
> news:ewgj8lJ#HHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Despite Vista search being hailed (by Microsoft) as 'a main feature',
>> Vista search has bugs - such that some things it simply can not find
>>
>> A search system that can not find 'some' things is as useless as one that
>> can not find 'any' things
>>
>> Are Microsoft working around the clock to fix it? Will it be fixed by
>> Monday? Am I the only person that thinks this renders the whole O/S close
>> to scrap?
>