Just got a brand new Sony Vaio notebook computer with Vista Home Premium
installed. I am not exaggerating when I say that my hard disk thrashed for
a solid day and a half doing updates. Kind of spoiled the fun of getting a
new machine. I expected to be able to fire this baby up and enjoy it.

Just think if I bought a new car and spent a day and a half at the garage
doing tune-ups before I could drive it. There's got to be a better way.

Just my 2 cents.

David

Punkzip wrote:[color=blue]
> Just got a brand new Sony Vaio notebook computer with Vista Home Premium
> installed. I am not exaggerating when I say that my hard disk thrashed
> for a solid day and a half doing updates. Kind of spoiled the fun of
> getting a new machine. I expected to be able to fire this baby up and
> enjoy it.
>
> Just think if I bought a new car and spent a day and a half at the
> garage doing tune-ups before I could drive it. There's got to be a
> better way.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> David[/color]

Hi David,

I think something is wrong with that laptop or you have an extremely
slow internet connection.
My Vista (also Home Premium) needed a little tuning/updating, but was
ready within 30 minutes (including all updates/restarts).
I can't think of a good reason yours is so slow. :-/

Could it be faulty hardware?
Maybe you should do a benchmark or two?
If in doubt, contact the shop where you bought it. It is new after all.
I say this because I remember I spend many many hours getting a modem
working, only to discover the hardware was broken.
It is called 'newness'. ;-)

Regards and good luck,
Erwin Moller

hi, i however can believe that from 3-6-07 to present day (incuding today i
have recieved 44 updates not including office .i have had my laptop since
march this year so god knows how many updates in total i have had . i suppose
it all depends on weather the os has been updated while it was sitting on a
shelf waiting to be sold it could have been installed in a laptop then boxed
up and left untill it was sold to you but a later one will be more upto date
because the os was installed more recently .the worrying thing is when sp1
comes out it will include all the updates released to date so i would take a
short holiday while that gets downloaded ,according to a white paper i read
yesterday it will be about 7gig alot of which can be reclaimed after the
instalation ,possibly because the updates are already installed (so why
bother including them )
--
martyb


"Erwin Moller" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Punkzip wrote:[color=green]
> > Just got a brand new Sony Vaio notebook computer with Vista Home Premium
> > installed. I am not exaggerating when I say that my hard disk thrashed
> > for a solid day and a half doing updates. Kind of spoiled the fun of
> > getting a new machine. I expected to be able to fire this baby up and
> > enjoy it.
> >
> > Just think if I bought a new car and spent a day and a half at the
> > garage doing tune-ups before I could drive it. There's got to be a
> > better way.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > David[/color]
>
> Hi David,
>
> I think something is wrong with that laptop or you have an extremely
> slow internet connection.
> My Vista (also Home Premium) needed a little tuning/updating, but was
> ready within 30 minutes (including all updates/restarts).
> I can't think of a good reason yours is so slow. :-/
>
> Could it be faulty hardware?
> Maybe you should do a benchmark or two?
> If in doubt, contact the shop where you bought it. It is new after all.
> I say this because I remember I spend many many hours getting a modem
> working, only to discover the hardware was broken.
> It is called 'newness'. ;-)
>
> Regards and good luck,
> Erwin Moller
>[/color]

"marty" <marty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B9F88AF7-8855-497B-9FEC-36D8D4FB37A3@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> hi, i however can believe that from 3-6-07 to present day (incuding today
> i
> have recieved 44 updates not including office .i have had my laptop since
> march this year so god knows how many updates in total i have had . i
> suppose
> it all depends on weather the os has been updated while it was sitting on
> a
> shelf waiting to be sold it could have been installed in a laptop then
> boxed
> up and left untill it was sold to you but a later one will be more upto
> date
> because the os was installed more recently .the worrying thing is when sp1
> comes out it will include all the updates released to date so i would take
> a
> short holiday while that gets downloaded ,according to a white paper i
> read
> yesterday it will be about 7gig alot of which can be reclaimed after the
> instalation ,possibly because the updates are already installed (so why
> bother including them )[/color]

Service packs usually include all the fixes upto the time it was finalised..
As for 7G? well XP SP2 is about 200M if you download it as a selfextracting
executable but only about 80M if you download it using update.
This is because update only downloads the bits for you version of XP while
the executable has them all.
I expect Vista will be the same.
If it isn't its going to take me a couple of hours to download if M$ can
keep up.

hi , your probably right i dont think it it will be as bad as it the white
paper suggests have you read this courtesy of pete folds
--
martyb

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=090deaf6-2eaa-4aaa-8b3b-2e199db4a97d&displaylang=en[/url]


"dennis@home" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "marty" <marty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B9F88AF7-8855-497B-9FEC-36D8D4FB37A3@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > hi, i however can believe that from 3-6-07 to present day (incuding today
> > i
> > have recieved 44 updates not including office .i have had my laptop since
> > march this year so god knows how many updates in total i have had . i
> > suppose
> > it all depends on weather the os has been updated while it was sitting on
> > a
> > shelf waiting to be sold it could have been installed in a laptop then
> > boxed
> > up and left untill it was sold to you but a later one will be more upto
> > date
> > because the os was installed more recently .the worrying thing is when sp1
> > comes out it will include all the updates released to date so i would take
> > a
> > short holiday while that gets downloaded ,according to a white paper i
> > read
> > yesterday it will be about 7gig alot of which can be reclaimed after the
> > instalation ,possibly because the updates are already installed (so why
> > bother including them )[/color]
>
> Service packs usually include all the fixes upto the time it was finalised..
> As for 7G? well XP SP2 is about 200M if you download it as a selfextracting
> executable but only about 80M if you download it using update.
> This is because update only downloads the bits for you version of XP while
> the executable has them all.
> I expect Vista will be the same.
> If it isn't its going to take me a couple of hours to download if M$ can
> keep up.
>
>
>
>[/color]

"so why bother including them"
Because there will be some that have not installed any updates and
others that have all installed with every possible combination
in-between.
The other option would be to make several different versions of the
Service Pack which would largely lead to confusion.

Typically when a Service Pack comes out, he Media can be ordered for
free in many regions.
The listed delivery time is usually 2 weeks or more but my experience
is about a week.

Since there are bandwidth limitations which make it impossible for all
to immediately start the download, even if Automatic Update is used,
it is possible you can get the media before the Service Pack starts
installing.

The best options are to order the Service Pack media or download the
full installation.
This gives you the media so you can more quickly install if it becomes
necessary at a later date.
It is also easier if you have several Windows Vista computers.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"marty" <marty@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B9F88AF7-8855-497B-9FEC-36D8D4FB37A3@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> hi, i however can believe that from 3-6-07 to present day (incuding
> today i
> have recieved 44 updates not including office .i have had my laptop
> since
> march this year so god knows how many updates in total i have had .
> i suppose
> it all depends on weather the os has been updated while it was
> sitting on a
> shelf waiting to be sold it could have been installed in a laptop
> then boxed
> up and left untill it was sold to you but a later one will be more
> upto date
> because the os was installed more recently .the worrying thing is
> when sp1
> comes out it will include all the updates released to date so i
> would take a
> short holiday while that gets downloaded ,according to a white paper
> i read
> yesterday it will be about 7gig alot of which can be reclaimed after
> the
> instalation ,possibly because the updates are already installed (so
> why
> bother including them )
> --
> martyb
>
>
> "Erwin Moller" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Punkzip wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > Just got a brand new Sony Vaio notebook computer with Vista Home
>> > Premium
>> > installed. I am not exaggerating when I say that my hard disk
>> > thrashed
>> > for a solid day and a half doing updates. Kind of spoiled the
>> > fun of
>> > getting a new machine. I expected to be able to fire this baby
>> > up and
>> > enjoy it.
>> >
>> > Just think if I bought a new car and spent a day and a half at
>> > the
>> > garage doing tune-ups before I could drive it. There's got to be
>> > a
>> > better way.
>> >
>> > Just my 2 cents.
>> >
>> > David[/color]
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I think something is wrong with that laptop or you have an
>> extremely
>> slow internet connection.
>> My Vista (also Home Premium) needed a little tuning/updating, but
>> was
>> ready within 30 minutes (including all updates/restarts).
>> I can't think of a good reason yours is so slow. :-/
>>
>> Could it be faulty hardware?
>> Maybe you should do a benchmark or two?
>> If in doubt, contact the shop where you bought it. It is new after
>> all.
>> I say this because I remember I spend many many hours getting a
>> modem
>> working, only to discover the hardware was broken.
>> It is called 'newness'. ;-)
>>
>> Regards and good luck,
>> Erwin Moller
>>[/color][/color]