Ice Cream Man <Ice.Cream.Man.3bbr3b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
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>
> DanS;3814129 Wrote:
>> Ice Cream Man <Ice.Cream.Man.3bblja@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
>> news:Ice.Cream.Man.3bblja@DoNotSpam.com:
>>
>> > One doesn't set out to buy a brand new car, by checking for reverse
>> > compatibility. As long as it runs on gas (or something cheaper) you
>> > are generally happy, right? Making sure your old seats, old
>> > headlights, and dash board from the other car will fit in the new
>> car
>> > would sound silly, and absurd.
>>
>> That's a really bad analogy.
>
> have anything better? :)

How about, an analogy isn't needed, just some sense.

I don't think most people would like having to re-purchase/replace s/w to
support a new OS if there is no need for an upgrade and it gets the job
done.

BUT HERE THE NEW O. S. GETS THE JOB DONE IN A BETTER,SAFER AND MORE RELIABLE
WAY

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
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Ice Cream Man <Ice.Cream.Man.3bbr3b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
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>
> DanS;3814129 Wrote:
>> Ice Cream Man <Ice.Cream.Man.3bblja@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
>> news:Ice.Cream.Man.3bblja@DoNotSpam.com:
>>
>> > One doesn't set out to buy a brand new car, by checking for reverse
>> > compatibility. As long as it runs on gas (or something cheaper) you
>> > are generally happy, right? Making sure your old seats, old
>> > headlights, and dash board from the other car will fit in the new
>> car
>> > would sound silly, and absurd.
>>
>> That's a really bad analogy.
>
> have anything better? :)

How about, an analogy isn't needed, just some sense.

I don't think most people would like having to re-purchase/replace s/w to
support a new OS if there is no need for an upgrade and it gets the job
done.

"Hiren" <hirenme********.com> wrote in message
news:248103D0-D9CD-4928-887B-986778889DE9@microsoft.com...
> BUT HERE THE NEW O. S. GETS THE JOB DONE IN A BETTER,SAFER AND MORE
> RELIABLE
> WAY

Oh please, show me another OS that won't allow a startup program that the
Administrator has specifically given permission to run at startup.
To make it run at startup requires a workaround using task manager. What a
joke.
And they have the audacity to call it security.
I have not found Vista to be any more stable or secure than any of my 200 XP
machines.
The 50 some old P2s and P3s that W98/ME/NT/W2K were replaced with Linux are
more stable than any Vista machine I have seen.
The graphics aren't as pretty, but they work fine for their purpose.
So just who is the joke on?

"Hiren" <hirenme********.com> wrote in
news:248103D0-D9CD-4928-887B-986778889DE9@microsoft.com:

> BUT HERE THE NEW O. S. GETS THE JOB DONE IN A BETTER,SAFER AND MORE
> RELIABLE WAY

We're talking about third-party s/w here that was purchased, not about
internet apps, many of which are free and/or OS intrinsic.

Ex. CAD, CAM, photo/video editing tools, music editing/producing.

Also, the biggest security issue in Windows are/were items produced by MS
themselves...IE and Oulook/Express.







>
> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
> news:Xns9AC3BE6D17AC8thisnthatadelphianet@66.250.1 46.128...
> Ice Cream Man <Ice.Cream.Man.3bbr3b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
> news:Ice.Cream.Man.3bbr3b@DoNotSpam.com:
>
>>
>> DanS;3814129 Wrote:
>>> Ice Cream Man <Ice.Cream.Man.3bblja@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in
>>> news:Ice.Cream.Man.3bblja@DoNotSpam.com:
>>>
>>> > One doesn't set out to buy a brand new car, by checking for
>>> > reverse compatibility. As long as it runs on gas (or something
>>> > cheaper) you are generally happy, right? Making sure your old
>>> > seats, old headlights, and dash board from the other car will fit
>>> > in the new
>>> car
>>> > would sound silly, and absurd.
>>>
>>> That's a really bad analogy.
>>
>> have anything better? :)
>
> How about, an analogy isn't needed, just some sense.
>
> I don't think most people would like having to re-purchase/replace s/w
> to support a new OS if there is no need for an upgrade and it gets the
> job done.
>
>
>

skunksmash <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in
news:0819482bea872425520885b336523c75@nntp-gateway.com:

> this OS far surpasses anything else currently out there ....the UAC
> can be disabled
> & with SP1 it seems completly bug free
>
> XP had a constant tendancy for unrecoverable lock ups....

You should have startes that last sentence with, 'In my experience...',
because I, and many others had the exact opposite experience with XP. My
Win98 box was upgraded to XP, about a week after it went gold in 2001. It
had been thru a myriad of hardware upgrades, and ran the gold version
until Aug 2006 (no SP1) when I sufferred a massive hardware event that
took out the power supply and two physical HD's.

Prior to that, XP ran totally smooth and I can't even remember any
lockups.

Since then the only issue I've had was the loss of network connections
during large netwrok file transfers. This was traced back to a bad stick
of RAM that was added. And this didn't even cause a BSOD, just loss of
connectivity.

Since the main reason given for Vista problems is third-party
driver/software related, who's to say that the reason for your XP
problems were not third-party driver/software related also and had
nothing to do with XP itself ?

I have to give you the time tested, tried and true Vista pushers
reasoning for XP, it works *perfectly* on my system, so it must be
something you are doing or incompatible 3rd party drivers/software.

skunksmash <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in
news:2d03d74df4023f70749058eb809863f4@nntp-gateway.com:

>
> DanS;754022 Wrote:
>> skunksmash <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in
>> news:0819482bea872425520885b336523c75@xxxxxx-gateway.com:
>> > > >
>> > > this OS far surpasses anything else currently out there ....the
>> > > UAC can be disabled
>> > > & with SP1 it seems completly bug free
>> > >
>> > > XP had a constant tendancy for unrecoverable lock ups.... > > You
>> > > should have startes that last sentence with, 'In my
>> experience...',
>> because I, and many others had the exact opposite experience with XP.
>> My
>> Win98 box was upgraded to XP, about a week after it went gold in
>> 2001. It
>> had been thru a myriad of hardware upgrades, and ran the gold version
>> until Aug 2006 (no SP1) when I sufferred a massive hardware event
>> that
>> took out the power supply and two physical HD's.
>>
>> Prior to that, XP ran totally smooth and I can't even remember any
>> lockups.
>>
>> Since then the only issue I've had was the loss of network
>> connections
>> during large netwrok file transfers. This was traced back to a bad
>> stick
>> of RAM that was added. And this didn't even cause a BSOD, just loss
>> of
>> connectivity.
>>
>> Since the main reason given for Vista problems is third-party
>> driver/software related, who's to say that the reason for your XP
>> problems were not third-party driver/software related also and had
>> nothing to do with XP itself ?
>>
>> I have to give you the time tested, tried and true Vista pushers
>> reasoning for XP, it works *perfectly* on my system, so it must be
>> something you are doing or incompatible 3rd party drivers/software.
>
>:shock::shock::shock:...who the hell is talking about XP...?????

You were, you brought it up saying it sufferred from unrecoverable
lockups !!! Look back in the thread.


> surly the fact i said ...''you can disable UAC'' ..should have been a
> dead give away..

Yes, you said that followed by the XP comment.

Everyone seems to lose sight of the fact that the only reason any OS exists
is to allow the user to run software on his system. This goes for DOS,
Linux, 95, 98, XP, or Vista. If the OS is so inflexible as to preclude
running any "3RD Party" software, then what earthly good is it?

Whether you use your system for work, gaming, multi-media, or whatever else,
I doubt any version of Windows will do any of the things you want to your
satisfaction. So the user is stuck with using one of the 3RD Party packages
that all of the Vista apologists seem to look down their noses at.

I'll ask again. If Vista can't allow me to use my system for what I need it
for, and XP will, what earthly good is Vista.

Buddha

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
news:Xns9AC45D7209263thisnthatadelphianet@66.250.1 46.128...
> skunksmash <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in
> news:0819482bea872425520885b336523c75@nntp-gateway.com:
>
>> this OS far surpasses anything else currently out there ....the UAC
>> can be disabled
>> & with SP1 it seems completly bug free
>>
>> XP had a constant tendancy for unrecoverable lock ups....
>
> You should have startes that last sentence with, 'In my experience...',
> because I, and many others had the exact opposite experience with XP. My
> Win98 box was upgraded to XP, about a week after it went gold in 2001. It
> had been thru a myriad of hardware upgrades, and ran the gold version
> until Aug 2006 (no SP1) when I sufferred a massive hardware event that
> took out the power supply and two physical HD's.
>
> Prior to that, XP ran totally smooth and I can't even remember any
> lockups.
>
> Since then the only issue I've had was the loss of network connections
> during large netwrok file transfers. This was traced back to a bad stick
> of RAM that was added. And this didn't even cause a BSOD, just loss of
> connectivity.
>
> Since the main reason given for Vista problems is third-party
> driver/software related, who's to say that the reason for your XP
> problems were not third-party driver/software related also and had
> nothing to do with XP itself ?
>
> I have to give you the time tested, tried and true Vista pushers
> reasoning for XP, it works *perfectly* on my system, so it must be
> something you are doing or incompatible 3rd party drivers/software.

Buddha wrote:

> Everyone seems to lose sight of the fact that the only reason any OS
> exists is to allow the user to run software on his system. This goes
> for DOS, Linux, 95, 98, XP, or Vista. If the OS is so inflexible as to
> preclude running any "3RD Party" software, then what earthly good is it?
>
> Whether you use your system for work, gaming, multi-media, or whatever
> else, I doubt any version of Windows will do any of the things you want
> to your satisfaction. So the user is stuck with using one of the 3RD
> Party packages that all of the Vista apologists seem to look down their
> noses at.
>
> I'll ask again. If Vista can't allow me to use my system for what I
> need it for, and XP will, what earthly good is Vista.
>
> Buddha
>
Are you really as stupid as you seem to be?
You are aren't you!
Frank

Frank wrote:
> Buddha wrote:
>
>> Everyone seems to lose sight of the fact that the only reason any OS
>> exists is to allow the user to run software on his system. This goes
>> for DOS, Linux, 95, 98, XP, or Vista. If the OS is so inflexible as
>> to preclude running any "3RD Party" software, then what earthly good
>> is it?
>>
>> Whether you use your system for work, gaming, multi-media, or whatever
>> else, I doubt any version of Windows will do any of the things you
>> want to your satisfaction. So the user is stuck with using one of the
>> 3RD Party packages that all of the Vista apologists seem to look down
>> their noses at.
>>
>> I'll ask again. If Vista can't allow me to use my system for what I
>> need it for, and XP will, what earthly good is Vista.
>>
>> Buddha
>>
> Are you really as stupid as you seem to be?
> You are aren't you!
> Frank

Speaking of stupid:

Who cares about what you like or dislike or support...you're a nobody.
Got it? You are a nobody...no one cares about your stupid life or your
bullsh*t diatribes about anything.
Get lost you jerk.
Frank, MPWVG, Dec 19, 2007

You're one sick lying fukk!!! No one...NO ONE believes you!!!
You are an admitted liar...a linux troll...an atheist and proly a commie
bastard and a real loser of a jerk.
Get lost!
Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 19, 2007

Of course it will. But then again, you don't have Vista so you don't
really know now do you mr liar, mr atheist, mr commie bastard.
LOL!!!
Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 20, 2007

What a childishly immature POS lying as*hole you are.
Frank, MPWVG, Dec. 23, 2007

jake wrote:


....just his usual delusional bullsh*t from some unknown blogger.
Get a real life you idiot!
Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

You're infested with Vista demons capin' crunch. Is that a result of not
taking your meds or are you just naturally that fukkin stupid?
Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

Who the fukk do you think you are...mr liar, mr atheist, mr commie
bastard....
Go screw yourself!
Frank, MPWVG, Jan 1, 2008

flambe wrote:

....nothing but a bunch of uninformed lies and bullsh*t.
Grow up as*hole and face the fact that you're STUPID!
Frank, MPWVG, Dec 31, 2007

Wrong again you POS lying linux loser.
Get a life you moron.
Frank, MPWVG, Jan 1, 2008

You need to stop making a fool out of yourself mr liar.
You are a known troll and a pathological liar.
Get lost you stupid POS moron loser.
Frank, MPWVG, Jan 2, 2008

Ahahaha...of all the people who post to ng's...of all the lunies,
wackos, morons, idiots and just plain'o losers...you my friend are at the
very top of that heap of sh*theads...LOL!
Frank, MPWVG, Jan 5, 2008

....FUKK!!! You're so full of sh*t I can almost smell you thru the Internet!
Get a life you stupid POS moron idiot!
Frank, MPWVG, Jan 7, 2008


hehehe...never...and I mean never...admit in public that our are an
idiot...something that you've just done.
Use XP until the hell freezes over.
Frank MPWVG, Jan 10, 2008

Try sticking both of your feet into your big mouth at the same time
butt-munch!
Frank, MPWVG 1/16/08

Why? You too stupid to know how to use Vista.
Loser.
Frank, MPWVG 1/16/08

I know you're a cross-dressing unemployed RS arse kissing lying linux
troll POS, but are you also a slobbering fukkin drunk too?
Sure sounds like it you ignorant as*hole...LOL!
Frank, MPWVG 1/17/08

Well 'nostop" hahaha...(what a fukkin handle that is!), I guess you
forgot to read huh?
Hey, here's a proper sentence...go fukk yourself you stupid
cross-dressing POS lying linux troll.
Got it?
Want some more?
Just let me know I do so enjoy bit*h slapping your ignorant arse all
over the place.
Loser!
Frank Vista General, 1/26/08

You would never says the outrageous and perverted insults you said about
my mother, wife and daughter to my face for fear of having the living
sh*t beaten out of you.
Pray we never meet!
Frank, Vista General, 3/7/08

Pray...pray harder and more often than you ever have, that we never,
ever meet in person!
Frank, Vista General, 3/7/08

No but it is certainly higher than your IQ...LOL!
Hey...how is that love affair with that sheep coming along? Everybody
happy I hope...LOL!
Frank, Vista General, 3/9/08

You're beyond dumb sheep-fukker.
Are you still sealing from those little old ladies huh?
Frank, Vista General, 4/28/08

Well sheep-fukker...I bet that certainly helps your good karma doesn't
it? Does your Bagwan know what a real lying vile arrogant balless POS
excuse for a little man human being you really are? I bet he doesn't
does he.
You lie to him also don't you sheep-fukker...LOL! You're pathetic!
Frank, Vista General, 4/28/08


Alias

Another "intelligent lifeform" heard from. I always find it amazing that
the lower the brain power of the participant in a News Group, the more they
rely on personal attacks instead of logic and facts to make their point.
Thank you so much for proving me right on that one yet again.

Buddha

"Frank" <fb@jhy.clr> wrote in message
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> Buddha wrote:
>
>> Everyone seems to lose sight of the fact that the only reason any OS
>> exists is to allow the user to run software on his system. This goes for
>> DOS, Linux, 95, 98, XP, or Vista. If the OS is so inflexible as to
>> preclude running any "3RD Party" software, then what earthly good is it?
>>
>> Whether you use your system for work, gaming, multi-media, or whatever
>> else, I doubt any version of Windows will do any of the things you want
>> to your satisfaction. So the user is stuck with using one of the 3RD
>> Party packages that all of the Vista apologists seem to look down their
>> noses at.
>>
>> I'll ask again. If Vista can't allow me to use my system for what I need
>> it for, and XP will, what earthly good is Vista.
>>
>> Buddha
>>
> Are you really as stupid as you seem to be?
> You are aren't you!
> Frank

Alias, the sheep-fukkin lying vile piece of **** wrote:

"Your wife asked me if I would stroke her but I declined as I don't do
dogs. Then she screamed that I am a Linux loving commie atheist loser
and went running out into the street naked repeating that over and over
again. You know, like you do on this newsgroup.

Have you stopped fuçking your daughter yet ... LOL!

Alias"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's wrong mr liar, you said you had me kill filed!...LOL!
You're a known and admitted liar, a thief, a spammer, a lying linux
troll and a vile bigoted atheist asshole loser!
Frank

After 15 months of struggling to get my Vista operating system to perform
simple tasks such as sending emails, opening pdf files, downloading programs,
opening attachements, after at least 60 hours on line and on the phone, a
large amount of time waiting, on hold, to Dell's tech support, I finally gave
up, removed Vista and put in Windows XP. OMG!!! My computer works!!! And so
fast!!!
FINALLY.



>

SAVE XP <SAVE XP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>After 15 months of struggling to get my Vista operating system to perform
>simple tasks such as sending emails, opening pdf files, downloading programs,
>opening attachements, after at least 60 hours on line and on the phone, a
>large amount of time waiting, on hold, to Dell's tech support, I finally gave
>up, removed Vista and put in Windows XP. OMG!!! My computer works!!! And so
>fast!!!
>FINALLY.

Give yourself some time. You'll screw it up just like you did Vista.

"SAVE XP" <SAVE XP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1EA9E65D-9AD8-4712-AE56-70B81CACBCA2@microsoft.com...
> After 15 months of struggling to get my Vista operating system to perform
> simple tasks such as sending emails, opening pdf files, downloading
> programs,
> opening attachements, after at least 60 hours on line and on the phone, a
> large amount of time waiting, on hold, to Dell's tech support, I finally
> gave
> up, removed Vista and put in Windows XP. OMG!!! My computer works!!! And
> so
> fast!!!
> FINALLY.

Do you have the packaging your machine came in? If so I suggest you pack it
up, take it back to the shop and ask the nice man if he will exchange it for
a Gameboy....seems that's about your level.....

Six cooks and one cake recipe.

Two cooks bake a beautiful cake.
The other four cooks cake turns out terrible.

What's wrong here, the cooks or the recipe?


Aint nothin wrong with VISTA!


Mickey





"Gordon" <gbplinux******.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:uDpfGlM4IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "SAVE XP" <SAVE XP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1EA9E65D-9AD8-4712-AE56-70B81CACBCA2@microsoft.com...
>> After 15 months of struggling to get my Vista operating system to perform
>> simple tasks such as sending emails, opening pdf files, downloading
>> programs,
>> opening attachements, after at least 60 hours on line and on the phone, a
>> large amount of time waiting, on hold, to Dell's tech support, I finally
>> gave
>> up, removed Vista and put in Windows XP. OMG!!! My computer works!!! And
>> so
>> fast!!!
>> FINALLY.
>
> Do you have the packaging your machine came in? If so I suggest you pack
> it up, take it back to the shop and ask the nice man if he will exchange
> it for a Gameboy....seems that's about your level.....