I found this online
[url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want to know
if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.

Afraid not.


"Vista User" <Vista [email]User@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
news:7805088D-2261-4FC5-9564-1FA99099FA4E@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I found this online
> [url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want to
> know
> if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.[/color]

What exactly is illegal about this?

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=blue]
> Afraid not.
>
>
> "Vista User" <Vista [email]User@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
> news:7805088D-2261-4FC5-9564-1FA99099FA4E@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> I found this online
>> [url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want
>> to know
>> if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.[/color][/color]

In article <42C10ECC-41CF-4C27-8E84-89524D571640@microsoft.com>,
[email]cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com[/email] says...[color=blue]
> Afraid not.[/color]

If you have not activated the software you can return it, but it's not
something they make easy to do and you may not get any money for it.

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"GO" <aa533@remove.this.chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
news:#K8McQy1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> What exactly is illegal about this?
>
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=green]
>> Afraid not.
>>
>>
>> "Vista User" <Vista [email]User@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
>> news:7805088D-2261-4FC5-9564-1FA99099FA4E@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> I found this online
>>> [url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want
>>> to know
>>> if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]
Best try reading the selling agreement of MS. You don't actually own their
software. You are told you break their selling agreement is you use it on
more than one machine or if you resell it.

OK you can do all those things till caught.



--
Ian

"Vista User" <Vista [email]User@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
news:7805088D-2261-4FC5-9564-1FA99099FA4E@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I found this online
> [url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want to
> know
> if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.[/color]

Perfectly legal if you declined the licence agreement. Not if you've been
using it and just decided you fancy a change.

"Vista User" <Vista [email]User@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
news:7805088D-2261-4FC5-9564-1FA99099FA4E@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I found this online
> [url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want to
> know
> if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.[/color]

Ultimate is a version of Vista. What exactly are you trying to do?

On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 08:01:07 +0100, "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
>"GO" <aa533@remove.this.chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
>news:#K8McQy1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> What exactly is illegal about this?
>>
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Afraid not.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Vista User" <Vista [email]User@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
>>> news:7805088D-2261-4FC5-9564-1FA99099FA4E@microsoft.com...
>>>> I found this online
>>>> [url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want
>>>> to know
>>>> if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>Best try reading the selling agreement of MS. You don't actually own their
>software. You are told you break their selling agreement is you use it on
>more than one machine or if you resell it.[/color]

Last time I checked Congress writes laws that apply in the United
States, not Microsoft. Further amusement, some MVP giving legal
advise. What's next, Bill Gates stepping forwards and saying he's the
anti-Christ and we all need to get down on our knees every Sunday and
face Redmond Washington and mumble some prayer to Microsoft?

This space reserved for the idiot Frank to start squealing Acer or
Walmart have to do what Microsoft tells them. =====>

Per the license agreement, turning it on constitutes use.
This is OEM software installed and tested by the dealer. It cannot be resold
unless the machine goes with it.


"Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote in message
news:OT1ngjz1HHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Vista User" <Vista [email]User@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
> news:7805088D-2261-4FC5-9564-1FA99099FA4E@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>I found this online
>> [url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want to
>> know
>> if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.[/color]
>
> Perfectly legal if you declined the licence agreement. Not if you've been
> using it and just decided you fancy a change.
>[/color]

On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 08:57:20 -0500, "Mark"
<jmhonzell.nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Per the license agreement, turning it on constitutes use.
>This is OEM software installed and tested by the dealer. It cannot be resold
>unless the machine goes with it.
>[/color]
That's like trying on a pair of shoes. If they don't fit, the store
can't resell them to the next guy?

Microsoft's license is highly biased towards themselves for obvious
reasons. As far as the Vista version AFAIK it has not been tested in
the courts as to what is or isn't binding or "legal".

To suggest a customer buys a computer, takes it home, turns in on and
doesn't like the OS and can't replace it with something else without
Microsoft's blessing is absurd and violates the underlying principle
of all laws.

Its bad enough we got guys trying to play computer expert here, now we
got guys trying to play attorney too.

ROTFLMAO!

Ian Betts wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Afraid not.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Vista User" <Vista [email]User@discussions.microsoft.com[/email]> wrote in message
>>> news:7805088D-2261-4FC5-9564-1FA99099FA4E@microsoft.com...
>>>> I found this online
>>>> [url]http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=73556[/url] and want
>>>> to know
>>>> if it's legal. If so YAY I can return Vista and then buy Ultimate.[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color]
> "GO" <aa533@remove.this.chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
> news:#K8McQy1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> What exactly is illegal about this?
>>[/color]
> Best try reading the selling agreement of MS. You don't actually own
> their software. You are told you break their selling agreement is you
> use it on more than one machine or if you resell it.
>
> OK you can do all those things till caught.[/color]


Did you even bother going to the provided url? The OP is asking if it's
legal to return it for a refund. Which according to the agreement between
MS and Acer, it is. Seems to be more hassle than it's worth but there's
nothing illegal about it. It may be unethical to return (I'm assuming)
Premium in order to buy Ultimate but that's up to him. It would also make
more sense just to get a laptop with Ultimate installed.

Adam Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 08:01:07 +0100, "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net>[/color]
[color=blue]
>
> Last time I checked Congress writes laws that apply in the United
> States, not Microsoft. Further amusement, some MVP giving legal
> advise. What's next,[/color]


---------------------------------------------------------------
How about you trying (in vain) to extract your pointy head out of your
fat ass?
hahahaha...now that's funny?
Frank

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:07:46 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Adam Albright wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 08:01:07 +0100, "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net>[/color]
>[color=green]
>>
>> Last time I checked Congress writes laws that apply in the United
>> States, not Microsoft. Further amusement, some MVP giving legal
>> advise. What's next,[/color]
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>How about you trying (in vain) to extract your pointy head out of your
>fat ass?
>hahahaha...now that's funny?
>Frank[/color]

You should try to stop responding to my posts knowing full well I
always end up kicking you in your sh*t encrusted stupid ass.

Adam Albright wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:07:46 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Adam Albright wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 08:01:07 +0100, "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net>[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Last time I checked Congress writes laws that apply in the United
>>>States, not Microsoft. Further amusement, some MVP giving legal
>>>advise. What's next,[/color]
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>How about you trying (in vain) to extract your pointy head out of your
>>fat ass?
>>hahahaha...now that's funny?
>>Frank[/color]
>
>
> You should try to stop responding to my posts knowing full well I
> always end up kicking you in your sh*t encrusted stupid ass.
>[/color]

I always like to see a fat pig like you squeal.
You always do and you always dance for me.
It just makes my day!
Thanks mr genius...hahaha...lol!
Frank

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:45:29 -0700, Frank <fb@nospaner.cnm> wrote:

[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>How about you trying (in vain) to extract your pointy head out of your
>>>fat ass?
>>>hahahaha...now that's funny?
>>>Frank[/color]
>>
>>
>> You should try to stop responding to my posts knowing full well I
>> always end up kicking you in your sh*t encrusted stupid ass.
>>[/color]
>
>I always like to see a fat pig like you squeal.[/color]

[color=blue]
>You always do and you always dance for me.[/color]

Actually you do the dancing, like this video shows. Anybody wonders
why fanboys are dumb need only watch the video to the end to learn why
Frank is an idiot.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp2cOvZzDus[/url]