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| Why does unzipping files take so long? I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked to extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 hours to extract all the files! After waiting for 20 minutes I aborted and used the cygwin.com free unzip program which unziped everything in a couple of minutes. Why is the vista program for zip files so slow? Is there anything we can do do speed it up? Thanks, Siegfried |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? Vista has lots of problems. Wait until SP1 has been finalized and it might get better. I had problems copying data files from one drive to a USB drive. Took 4 times as long on Vista than XP. "Siegfried Heintze" <siegfried@heintze.com> wrote in message news:Oi72$9U1HHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue] >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked to >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 hours >to extract all the files! > > After waiting for 20 minutes I aborted and used the cygwin.com free unzip > program which unziped everything in a couple of minutes. Why is the vista > program for zip files so slow? Is there anything we can do do speed it up? > Thanks, > Siegfried >[/color] |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox[color=blue] >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked to >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 hours >to extract all the files![/color] I can't repro this problem. I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of RAM, and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance Rating 5.2. There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, other background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available memory, etc etc. You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows built-in zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance in Vista seems to be quite acceptable. You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add counters for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, etc. Regards, -- Andrew McLaren amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine with 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file on my machine! "Andrew McLaren" wrote: [color=blue][color=green] > >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox > >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I > >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked to > >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 hours > >to extract all the files![/color] > > I can't repro this problem. > > I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. > > In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an > unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. > > This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of RAM, > and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance > Rating 5.2. > > There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, other > background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available memory, > etc etc. > > You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows built-in > zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem > you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance in > Vista seems to be quite acceptable. > > You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the > bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add counters > for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, etc. > > Regards, > -- > Andrew McLaren > amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au > > >[/color] |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine with 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file on my machine! "Andrew McLaren" wrote: [color=blue][color=green] > >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox > >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I > >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked to > >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 hours > >to extract all the files![/color] > > I can't repro this problem. > > I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. > > In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an > unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. > > This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of RAM, > and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance > Rating 5.2. > > There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, other > background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available memory, > etc etc. > > You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows built-in > zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem > you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance in > Vista seems to be quite acceptable. > > You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the > bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add counters > for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, etc. > > Regards, > -- > Andrew McLaren > amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au > > >[/color] |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? "obscurereference" <obscurereference@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote ...[color=blue] > Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine with > 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and > nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 > minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to > download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file > on > my machine![/color] Although you are undoubtedly seeing a problem, it is not the universal experience for all Vista users. There is some specific or local condition which is causing the slow performance you are seeing. I have plenty of gripes about Vista; but speed unzipping files, is not one of them - I can unzip quite large zip files, nice and quick on my main machine. As I said: [color=blue][color=green] >> There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, >> other >> background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available >> memory, >> etc etc. >> You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the >> bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add >> counters >> for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, >> etc.[/color][/color] Start by playing around with Perfom, and see if you can delineate the main parameters of the slow performance. Other folks might have better ideas, hope this helps a bit. -- Andrew McLaren amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? "obscurereference" <obscurereference@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote ...[color=blue] > Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine with > 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and > nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 > minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to > download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file > on > my machine![/color] Although you are undoubtedly seeing a problem, it is not the universal experience for all Vista users. There is some specific or local condition which is causing the slow performance you are seeing. I have plenty of gripes about Vista; but speed unzipping files, is not one of them - I can unzip quite large zip files, nice and quick on my main machine. As I said: [color=blue][color=green] >> There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, >> other >> background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available >> memory, >> etc etc. >> You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the >> bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add >> counters >> for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, >> etc.[/color][/color] Start by playing around with Perfom, and see if you can delineate the main parameters of the slow performance. Other folks might have better ideas, hope this helps a bit. -- Andrew McLaren amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? obscurereference wrote:[color=blue] > Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine > with 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned > off and nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes > over 40 minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be > quicker to download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them > from a zip file on my machine![/color] Turn off your virus checker. Does that make a difference? |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? obscurereference wrote:[color=blue] > Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine > with 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned > off and nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes > over 40 minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be > quicker to download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them > from a zip file on my machine![/color] Turn off your virus checker. Does that make a difference? |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? I had the same problem, so I ditched Microsoft in favor of WinRAR. No problems since. "obscurereference" <obscurereference@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8CECD951-2BC4-46DF-A20F-5E402EE958B2@microsoft.com...[color=blue] > Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine with > 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and > nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 > minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to > download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file > on > my machine! > > "Andrew McLaren" wrote: >[color=green][color=darkred] >> >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox >> >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I >> >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked to >> >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 >> >hours >> >to extract all the files![/color] >> >> I can't repro this problem. >> >> I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. >> >> In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an >> unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. >> >> This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of >> RAM, >> and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance >> Rating 5.2. >> >> There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, >> other >> background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available >> memory, >> etc etc. >> >> You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows >> built-in >> zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem >> you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance >> in >> Vista seems to be quite acceptable. >> >> You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the >> bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add >> counters >> for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, >> etc. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Andrew McLaren >> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au >> >> >>[/color][/color] |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? I had the same problem, so I ditched Microsoft in favor of WinRAR. No problems since. "obscurereference" <obscurereference@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8CECD951-2BC4-46DF-A20F-5E402EE958B2@microsoft.com...[color=blue] > Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine with > 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and > nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 > minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to > download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file > on > my machine! > > "Andrew McLaren" wrote: >[color=green][color=darkred] >> >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox >> >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I >> >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked to >> >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 >> >hours >> >to extract all the files![/color] >> >> I can't repro this problem. >> >> I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. >> >> In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an >> unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. >> >> This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of >> RAM, >> and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance >> Rating 5.2. >> >> There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, >> other >> background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available >> memory, >> etc etc. >> >> You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows >> built-in >> zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem >> you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance >> in >> Vista seems to be quite acceptable. >> >> You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the >> bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add >> counters >> for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, >> etc. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Andrew McLaren >> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au >> >> >>[/color][/color] |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? I had the same problem, so I ditched Microsoft in favor of WinRAR. No problems since. "obscurereference" <obscurereference@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8CECD951-2BC4-46DF-A20F-5E402EE958B2@microsoft.com...[color=blue] > Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine with > 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and > nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 > minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to > download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file > on > my machine! > > "Andrew McLaren" wrote: >[color=green][color=darkred] >> >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox >> >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I >> >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked to >> >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 >> >hours >> >to extract all the files![/color] >> >> I can't repro this problem. >> >> I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. >> >> In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an >> unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. >> >> This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of >> RAM, >> and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance >> Rating 5.2. >> >> There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, >> other >> background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available >> memory, >> etc etc. >> >> You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows >> built-in >> zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem >> you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance >> in >> Vista seems to be quite acceptable. >> >> You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the >> bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add >> counters >> for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, >> etc. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Andrew McLaren >> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au >> >> >>[/color][/color] |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? i have to say it took Vista nearly an hour to extract the data files off my old machine i wonder whether it has anything to do with Vista indexing the extracted files one-by-one (which might not be the case if Winrar extracts them) "Gareth" <pendlebury********.co.uk> wrote in message news:OG0wA6W%23HHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue] >I had the same problem, so I ditched Microsoft in favor of WinRAR. No >problems since. > > > "obscurereference" <obscurereference@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:8CECD951-2BC4-46DF-A20F-5E402EE958B2@microsoft.com...[color=green] >> Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine >> with >> 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and >> nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 >> minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to >> download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file >> on >> my machine! >> >> "Andrew McLaren" wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox >>> >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I >>> >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked >>> >to >>> >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 >>> >hours >>> >to extract all the files! >>> >>> I can't repro this problem. >>> >>> I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. >>> >>> In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an >>> unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. >>> >>> This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of >>> RAM, >>> and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance >>> Rating 5.2. >>> >>> There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, >>> other >>> background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available >>> memory, >>> etc etc. >>> >>> You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows >>> built-in >>> zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem >>> you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance >>> in >>> Vista seems to be quite acceptable. >>> >>> You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the >>> bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add >>> counters >>> for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, >>> etc. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Andrew McLaren >>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au >>> >>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? i have to say it took Vista nearly an hour to extract the data files off my old machine i wonder whether it has anything to do with Vista indexing the extracted files one-by-one (which might not be the case if Winrar extracts them) "Gareth" <pendlebury********.co.uk> wrote in message news:OG0wA6W%23HHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue] >I had the same problem, so I ditched Microsoft in favor of WinRAR. No >problems since. > > > "obscurereference" <obscurereference@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:8CECD951-2BC4-46DF-A20F-5E402EE958B2@microsoft.com...[color=green] >> Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine >> with >> 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and >> nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 >> minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to >> download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file >> on >> my machine! >> >> "Andrew McLaren" wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox >>> >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I >>> >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked >>> >to >>> >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 >>> >hours >>> >to extract all the files! >>> >>> I can't repro this problem. >>> >>> I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. >>> >>> In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an >>> unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. >>> >>> This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of >>> RAM, >>> and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance >>> Rating 5.2. >>> >>> There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, >>> other >>> background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available >>> memory, >>> etc etc. >>> >>> You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows >>> built-in >>> zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem >>> you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance >>> in >>> Vista seems to be quite acceptable. >>> >>> You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the >>> bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add >>> counters >>> for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, >>> etc. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Andrew McLaren >>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au >>> >>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: Why does unzipping files take so long? i have to say it took Vista nearly an hour to extract the data files off my old machine i wonder whether it has anything to do with Vista indexing the extracted files one-by-one (which might not be the case if Winrar extracts them) "Gareth" <pendlebury********.co.uk> wrote in message news:OG0wA6W%23HHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue] >I had the same problem, so I ditched Microsoft in favor of WinRAR. No >problems since. > > > "obscurereference" <obscurereference@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:8CECD951-2BC4-46DF-A20F-5E402EE958B2@microsoft.com...[color=green] >> Did anyone ever find a solution to this problem? I have a new machine >> with >> 2GB RAM, a very fast processor, but even with antivirus turned off and >> nothing else running, extracting , say, a 10MB zip file takes over 40 >> minutes! The transfer rate is 4k/s, so it would actually be quicker to >> download the files from a dial-up modem then extract them from a zip file >> on >> my machine! >> >> "Andrew McLaren" wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> >I downloaded a 150 MB zip file from [url]http://eclipse.org[/url] with the firefox >>> >browser on a new notebook (I'm hoping there is no adware on it yet!). I >>> >opened up a windows explorer window on the zip file and right clicked >>> >to >>> >extract the files. I got a dialog box and it said it would require 2 >>> >hours >>> >to extract all the files! >>> >>> I can't repro this problem. >>> >>> I downloaded eclipse-SDK-3.3-win32.zip, 140MB, containing 1,831 items. >>> >>> In Explorer I dragged and dropped the contents from a zip file to an >>> unzipped folder, which took 2 minutes 11 seconds. >>> >>> This is on 64 bit Vista, with a 2.4GHx Core 2 Duo processor and 3Gb of >>> RAM, >>> and a 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA drive; Windows Performance >>> Rating 5.2. >>> >>> There are many, many variables which could affect performance - CPU, >>> other >>> background processes, anti-virus, filter drivers, disk IO, available >>> memory, >>> etc etc. >>> >>> You may be seeing a genuine problem; and I'm not suggesting Windows >>> built-in >>> zip is super-efficient - it probably isn't the fastest. But, the problem >>> you're seeing is not universal. In many situations, the zip performance >>> in >>> Vista seems to be quite acceptable. >>> >>> You'd probably need to run some tests on your machine to see where the >>> bottleneck was with that particular operation - use Perfom and add >>> counters >>> for CPU processor time, memory pages/sec, Physical disk queue length, >>> etc. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Andrew McLaren >>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au >>> >>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] |
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