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Old 07-22-2007, 05:20 PM
Bill S
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Formatting CD problem in Vista

I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new CD to
write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format. But, it
takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds as
advertised. What is the situation?
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:50 PM
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RE: Formatting CD problem in Vista

Where did you read the advertisement that it was going to take only a few
seconds to write the file system to a CD?

In XP, it took 10-20 minutes depending on the disk.

That is why people use Nero Express.

"Bill S" wrote:

> I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new CD to
> write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format. But, it
> takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds as
> advertised. What is the situation?
> --
> Bill in California

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Old 07-22-2007, 10:20 PM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

"Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4793DE76-09C9-4C40-9CD1-CAD93F4E517F@microsoft.com...
>I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new CD
>to
> write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format. But,
> it
> takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds as
> advertised. What is the situation?
> --
> Bill in California



I avoid using the OS functionality to write to CD's or DVD's... too buggy,
methinks.

I use DeepBurner... there's a paid version and a free version. The free
version does everything I require. YMMV.

Lang

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Old 07-23-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

No Windows CD writer work at top speed. It is not advisable to run like that
anyway because CD burning is best slow. As is said people use Nero for more
control. Program burning faster than10x is always chancy.

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"Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4793DE76-09C9-4C40-9CD1-CAD93F4E517F@microsoft.com...
>I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new CD
>to
> write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format. But,
> it
> takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds as
> advertised. What is the situation?
> --
> Bill in California
>

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Old 07-23-2007, 08:30 AM
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RE: Formatting CD problem in Vista

Mick,
Thanks for reply. I saw a "few seconds" in the Microsoft demo on Vista. To
clarify, I am talking about simply writing a data file to a CD. Under XP I
never had to format. Under Vista I have to. Why?

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"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> Where did you read the advertisement that it was going to take only a few
> seconds to write the file system to a CD?
>
> In XP, it took 10-20 minutes depending on the disk.
>
> That is why people use Nero Express.
>
> "Bill S" wrote:
>
> > I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new CD to
> > write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format. But, it
> > takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds as
> > advertised. What is the situation?
> > --
> > Bill in California

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Old 07-23-2007, 08:40 AM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

Ian,
Thanks.
To clarify, I am talking about simply copying a word document to a CD, not
"burning" a file. Under XP I never had to format the CD first.. Why under
Vista?

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"Ian Betts" wrote:

> No Windows CD writer work at top speed. It is not advisable to run like that
> anyway because CD burning is best slow. As is said people use Nero for more
> control. Program burning faster than10x is always chancy.
>
> --
> Ian
>
> "Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4793DE76-09C9-4C40-9CD1-CAD93F4E517F@microsoft.com...
> >I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new CD
> >to
> > write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format. But,
> > it
> > takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds as
> > advertised. What is the situation?
> > --
> > Bill in California
> >

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Old 07-23-2007, 08:40 AM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

Lang,
Thanks. To clarify, I am not talking about "burning." I simply want to
copy a word document to a CD. Under XP I never had to format a new disc.
Why under Vista?
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"Lang Murphy" wrote:

> "Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4793DE76-09C9-4C40-9CD1-CAD93F4E517F@microsoft.com...
> >I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new CD
> >to
> > write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format. But,
> > it
> > takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds as
> > advertised. What is the situation?
> > --
> > Bill in California

>
>
> I avoid using the OS functionality to write to CD's or DVD's... too buggy,
> methinks.
>
> I use DeepBurner... there's a paid version and a free version. The free
> version does everything I require. YMMV.
>
> Lang
>
>

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Old 07-23-2007, 01:00 PM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

If it is indeed a CD-R and you 'format it' it will be unuseable.
Only CD-RW can/should be formatted.
Using a third party CD burning software may well be your solution.
I bought a $29 CD/DVD burner at Walmart, and it came with Nero Express.
I believe you can get the complete version for about $59 online.
I also use the free burner from http://www.jetaudio.com
Google is your friend...

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"Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:55060092-2C01-4936-B029-137D58B1C997@microsoft.com...
> Mick,
> Thanks for reply. I saw a "few seconds" in the Microsoft demo on Vista.
> To
> clarify, I am talking about simply writing a data file to a CD. Under XP
> I
> never had to format. Under Vista I have to. Why?
>
> --
> Bill in California
>
>
> "Mick Murphy" wrote:
>
>> Where did you read the advertisement that it was going to take only a few
>> seconds to write the file system to a CD?
>>
>> In XP, it took 10-20 minutes depending on the disk.
>>
>> That is why people use Nero Express.
>>
>> "Bill S" wrote:
>>
>> > I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new
>> > CD to
>> > write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format.
>> > But, it
>> > takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds
>> > as
>> > advertised. What is the situation?
>> > --
>> > Bill in California



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Old 07-23-2007, 10:00 PM
Lang Murphy
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

"Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:213F7D3E-F29B-4AFF-9AD9-903430EB6165@microsoft.com...
> Lang,
> Thanks. To clarify, I am not talking about "burning." I simply want to
> copy a word document to a CD. Under XP I never had to format a new disc.
> Why under Vista?
> --
> Bill in California
>


Bill,

If you're "copying" anything to a CD, you're "burning" to it. A matter of
semantics, I think.

I don't know why Vista prompts one to "prepare" or "format" the CD or DVD
disc. I can't recall ever having that be successful. That's why I downloaded
the free version of DeepBurner and use that instead of the native Vista
tools.

Good luck,

Lang

>
> "Lang Murphy" wrote:
>
>> "Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4793DE76-09C9-4C40-9CD1-CAD93F4E517F@microsoft.com...
>> >I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new
>> >CD
>> >to
>> > write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format.
>> > But,
>> > it
>> > takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds
>> > as
>> > advertised. What is the situation?
>> > --
>> > Bill in California

>>
>>
>> I avoid using the OS functionality to write to CD's or DVD's... too
>> buggy,
>> methinks.
>>
>> I use DeepBurner... there's a paid version and a free version. The free
>> version does everything I require. YMMV.
>>
>> Lang
>>
>>



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Old 07-24-2007, 03:50 AM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

You cannot copy to a CD-R, only to a CD-RW. Just checking that you know that
first.



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"Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy********.com> wrote in message
news:243D1452-7025-44EC-8E2D-C9A057DD60E8@microsoft.com...
> "Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:213F7D3E-F29B-4AFF-9AD9-903430EB6165@microsoft.com...
>> Lang,
>> Thanks. To clarify, I am not talking about "burning." I simply want to
>> copy a word document to a CD. Under XP I never had to format a new disc.
>> Why under Vista?
>> --
>> Bill in California
>>

>
> Bill,
>
> If you're "copying" anything to a CD, you're "burning" to it. A matter of
> semantics, I think.
>
> I don't know why Vista prompts one to "prepare" or "format" the CD or DVD
> disc. I can't recall ever having that be successful. That's why I
> downloaded the free version of DeepBurner and use that instead of the
> native Vista tools.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Lang
>
>>
>> "Lang Murphy" wrote:
>>
>>> "Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4793DE76-09C9-4C40-9CD1-CAD93F4E517F@microsoft.com...
>>> >I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new
>>> >CD
>>> >to
>>> > write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format.
>>> > But,
>>> > it
>>> > takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not
>>> > seconds as
>>> > advertised. What is the situation?
>>> > --
>>> > Bill in California
>>>
>>>
>>> I avoid using the OS functionality to write to CD's or DVD's... too
>>> buggy,
>>> methinks.
>>>
>>> I use DeepBurner... there's a paid version and a free version. The free
>>> version does everything I require. YMMV.
>>>
>>> Lang
>>>
>>>

>
>
>

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Old 07-24-2007, 09:40 PM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

"Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
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> You cannot copy to a CD-R, only to a CD-RW. Just checking that you know
> that first.
>
>
>
> --
> Ian
>


<snip>

Gee... I must've missed the reference to CD-R... just went through the OP
posts again and see no reference to it. I'm only responding because you
responded directly to me. Reading the OP's posts after this one, it seems
they don't understand that "writing" data to a CD is AKA "burning." I'm
beginning to think we are collectively "talking to the wall." Oh, well,
c'est la vie.

Lang

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Old 07-26-2007, 09:20 PM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

Copying and burning are not the same thing.

You copy a file to a disc (by dragging it, or using a copy command). This
basically "stages" the file to a temporary location on your hard drive. At
this point the file is NOT on the disc.

THEN you burn to disc, which writes the staged copy to the disc.


"Lang Murphy" wrote:

> "Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:213F7D3E-F29B-4AFF-9AD9-903430EB6165@microsoft.com...
> > Lang,
> > Thanks. To clarify, I am not talking about "burning." I simply want to
> > copy a word document to a CD. Under XP I never had to format a new disc.
> > Why under Vista?
> > --
> > Bill in California
> >

>
> Bill,
>
> If you're "copying" anything to a CD, you're "burning" to it. A matter of
> semantics, I think.
>
> I don't know why Vista prompts one to "prepare" or "format" the CD or DVD
> disc. I can't recall ever having that be successful. That's why I downloaded
> the free version of DeepBurner and use that instead of the native Vista
> tools.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Lang
>
> >
> > "Lang Murphy" wrote:
> >
> >> "Bill S" <BillS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4793DE76-09C9-4C40-9CD1-CAD93F4E517F@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have a new Vista Home Basic on a new computer. When inserting a new
> >> >CD
> >> >to
> >> > write I get the new formatting window. I use the document format.
> >> > But,
> >> > it
> >> > takes 10 to 20 minutes to format every time I use a new CD, not seconds
> >> > as
> >> > advertised. What is the situation?
> >> > --
> >> > Bill in California
> >>
> >>
> >> I avoid using the OS functionality to write to CD's or DVD's... too
> >> buggy,
> >> methinks.
> >>
> >> I use DeepBurner... there's a paid version and a free version. The free
> >> version does everything I require. YMMV.
> >>
> >> Lang
> >>
> >>

>
>

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Old 07-27-2007, 09:30 PM
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Re: Formatting CD problem in Vista

"Blaze" <Blaze@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Copying and burning are not the same thing.
>
> You copy a file to a disc (by dragging it, or using a copy command). This
> basically "stages" the file to a temporary location on your hard drive.
> At
> this point the file is NOT on the disc.
>
> THEN you burn to disc, which writes the staged copy to the disc.
>


<snip>

I agree that copying and burning aren't the same thing, and are, if one uses
Vista's native capability to burn data to a CD, separate activities. But...
without burning, there is no writing to disc. That was the point I was
trying to make to the op of this thread. That person thinks they're not
"burning" to the disk. (To quote: "To clarify, I am not talking about
"burning." I simply want to copy a word document to a CD.") Without
"burning," all you have is a blank disc. I think it's a semantics issue...
or... quite possibly, the op doesn't realize there are further steps to
getting that data onto a CD besides just copying.

Lang

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