Not at all.
It is you that is so bad at misquoting others to suit your agenda.
It is not "back pedaling" to tell you I did not say what you claimed I
said when I never said it.
It is your imagination.
Of course if you can show where I said it.
But then if you could you already would have, but you CAN'T.
Instead you have shown yourself as one who need to misquote others.
Your continued attacks. void of facts.

Good bye Adam.
You continue to show you have NOTHING of value.
Reply back only if you feel the need to feed your ego.
No other purpose will be served.

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"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:lgd093h0upro16fd5ndarpgpboq40hu2ur@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> ****, Jupiter you're so good at back pedaling! That's your true
> talent.
>[/color]

Just put him on your blocked list. (By name, address, & IP domain.)
Never respond to him!


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:%23sfcR4PwHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Not at all.
> It is you that is so bad at misquoting others to suit your agenda.
> It is not "back pedaling" to tell you I did not say what you claimed I
> said when I never said it.
> It is your imagination.
> Of course if you can show where I said it.
> But then if you could you already would have, but you CAN'T.
> Instead you have shown yourself as one who need to misquote others.
> Your continued attacks. void of facts.
>
> Good bye Adam.
> You continue to show you have NOTHING of value.
> Reply back only if you feel the need to feed your ego.
> No other purpose will be served.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>
>
> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> news:lgd093h0upro16fd5ndarpgpboq40hu2ur@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> ****, Jupiter you're so good at back pedaling! That's your true
>> talent.
>>[/color]
>[/color]

notachance wrote:[color=blue]
> I have just converted from registry cleaner naysayer to a true
> believer. And I will NOT name the tool I used.[/color]

Why not?

Adam Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:59:20 +0100, Alun Harford
> <devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Adam Albright wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:26:30 +0100, Alun Harford
>>> <devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Arun wrote:
>>>>> Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for vista
>>>>> Ultimate.............
>>>> No. They cause more problems than they solve.
>>>> If you can't do it manually, you're likely to mess up your system if you
>>>> use a tool.
>>>> If you can do it manually, the tool isn't very useful.
>>> Telling people to manually edit their Registry isn't very good advice
>>> for the average user for obvious reasons; doing so can totally trash
>>> your Registry making your computer unbootable. Far safer to use a tool
>>> designed for that purpose.[/color]
>> The tool is even more dangerous than doing it manually.
>> Most users decide against the idea when confronted with the registry
>> editor, because they realise that they don't know what they're doing.
>> With a tool, most users go "Nice pretty wizard. Next, next, next, next,
>> finish. Oh dear, my system doesn't boot any more." Only then do they
>> realise that they didn't know what they were doing.
>>
>> Alun Harford[/color]
>
>
> You're entitled to your opinion even if it isn't factual. The whole
> point behind Registry Cleaners is to avoid deleting something by
> mistake. Of course any tool used improperly isn't very smart. What you
> avoid saying is Registry Tools while most have some automatic feature
> also show you a list of what it is about to remove BEFORE it actually
> does, allowing the user to decide what to delete and what not to. Of
> course if anybody just haphazardly removes things without knowing why
> that is dumb. However suggesting people manually scan tens of
> thousands of lines in the Registry looking for "bad" things on their
> own is in my opinion equally risky and very time consuming. Stop being
> anal.[/color]

plonk

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:06:45 +0100, Alun Harford
<devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:

[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> The tool is even more dangerous than doing it manually.
>>> Most users decide against the idea when confronted with the registry
>>> editor, because they realise that they don't know what they're doing.
>>> With a tool, most users go "Nice pretty wizard. Next, next, next, next,
>>> finish. Oh dear, my system doesn't boot any more." Only then do they
>>> realise that they didn't know what they were doing.
>>>
>>> Alun Harford[/color]
>>
>>
>> You're entitled to your opinion even if it isn't factual. The whole
>> point behind Registry Cleaners is to avoid deleting something by
>> mistake. Of course any tool used improperly isn't very smart. What you
>> avoid saying is Registry Tools while most have some automatic feature
>> also show you a list of what it is about to remove BEFORE it actually
>> does, allowing the user to decide what to delete and what not to. Of
>> course if anybody just haphazardly removes things without knowing why
>> that is dumb. However suggesting people manually scan tens of
>> thousands of lines in the Registry looking for "bad" things on their
>> own is in my opinion equally risky and very time consuming. Stop being
>> anal.[/color]
>
>plonk[/color]

When presented with facts, just plonk. How typical of fanboys.

Daave wrote:[color=blue]
> notachance wrote:[color=green]
>> I have just converted from registry cleaner naysayer to a true
>> believer. And I will NOT name the tool I used.[/color]
>
> Why not?
>
>
>[/color]

For those with a problem like mine on a system similar to mine,
it would be wise. But I may have hit on a great combination of
utility plus system configuration - it worked for me but might
be a problem for you. And, I will promote/support products or
procedures only after seeing a reasonable number of successes.

Microsoft has a FREE beta registry cleaner. It is part of One care! You can
download it on their main page.

"John Barnes" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I agree with most that it is not necessary and requires caution. That said
> Alias recommendation works fine and ALWAYS let it backup any entries you are
> going to delete. Unless you do a huge amount of installing and uninstalling
> of programs I would forget about it.
>
>
> "Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
> > vista
> > Ultimate.............[/color]
>
>[/color]

Adam Albright wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:06:45 +0100, Alun Harford
> <devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> The tool is even more dangerous than doing it manually.
>>>> Most users decide against the idea when confronted with the
>>>> registry editor, because they realise that they don't know what
>>>> they're doing. With a tool, most users go "Nice pretty wizard.
>>>> Next, next, next, next, finish. Oh dear, my system doesn't boot
>>>> any more." Only then do they realise that they didn't know what
>>>> they were doing.
>>>>
>>>> Alun Harford
>>>
>>>
>>> You're entitled to your opinion even if it isn't factual. The whole
>>> point behind Registry Cleaners is to avoid deleting something by
>>> mistake. Of course any tool used improperly isn't very smart. What
>>> you avoid saying is Registry Tools while most have some automatic
>>> feature also show you a list of what it is about to remove BEFORE
>>> it actually does, allowing the user to decide what to delete and
>>> what not to. Of course if anybody just haphazardly removes things
>>> without knowing why that is dumb. However suggesting people
>>> manually scan tens of
>>> thousands of lines in the Registry looking for "bad" things on their
>>> own is in my opinion equally risky and very time consuming. Stop
>>> being anal.[/color]
>>
>> plonk[/color]
>
> When presented with facts, just plonk. How typical of fanboys.[/color]

I'm anything but a "fanboy," but I would like to see you present these
facts.

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:15:23 -0400, "Daave"
<dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Adam Albright wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:06:45 +0100, Alun Harford
>> <devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>> The tool is even more dangerous than doing it manually.
>>>>> Most users decide against the idea when confronted with the
>>>>> registry editor, because they realise that they don't know what
>>>>> they're doing. With a tool, most users go "Nice pretty wizard.
>>>>> Next, next, next, next, finish. Oh dear, my system doesn't boot
>>>>> any more." Only then do they realise that they didn't know what
>>>>> they were doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alun Harford
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're entitled to your opinion even if it isn't factual. The whole
>>>> point behind Registry Cleaners is to avoid deleting something by
>>>> mistake. Of course any tool used improperly isn't very smart. What
>>>> you avoid saying is Registry Tools while most have some automatic
>>>> feature also show you a list of what it is about to remove BEFORE
>>>> it actually does, allowing the user to decide what to delete and
>>>> what not to. Of course if anybody just haphazardly removes things
>>>> without knowing why that is dumb. However suggesting people
>>>> manually scan tens of
>>>> thousands of lines in the Registry looking for "bad" things on their
>>>> own is in my opinion equally risky and very time consuming. Stop
>>>> being anal.
>>>
>>> plonk[/color]
>>
>> When presented with facts, just plonk. How typical of fanboys.[/color]
>
>I'm anything but a "fanboy," but I would like to see you present these
>facts.[/color]

The fact is Registry Cleaners work when used properly is well
documented. All that's required is learning how to use Google and
you'll find countless articles from some REAL experts, not the fakers
that hang out here that confirm it.

[url]http://onecare.live.com/site/en-gb/default.htm?s_cid=ideas[/url] ?

Q. Why would anyone want to use a beta version of a MS registry cleaner?

"Gene85" <Gene85@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:758497C0-7622-4ACD-B9D6-5BFA81EFEA9D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Microsoft has a FREE beta registry cleaner. It is part of One care! You
> can
> download it on their main page.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I agree with most that it is not necessary and requires caution. That
>> said
>> Alias recommendation works fine and ALWAYS let it backup any entries you
>> are
>> going to delete. Unless you do a huge amount of installing and
>> uninstalling
>> of programs I would forget about it.
>>
>>
>> "Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
>> > vista
>> > Ultimate.............[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

[url]http://onecare.live.com/site/en-gb/center/whatsnew.htm[/url]

"Gene85" <Gene85@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:758497C0-7622-4ACD-B9D6-5BFA81EFEA9D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Microsoft has a FREE beta registry cleaner. It is part of One care! You
> can
> download it on their main page.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I agree with most that it is not necessary and requires caution. That
>> said
>> Alias recommendation works fine and ALWAYS let it backup any entries you
>> are
>> going to delete. Unless you do a huge amount of installing and
>> uninstalling
>> of programs I would forget about it.
>>
>>
>> "Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
>> > vista
>> > Ultimate.............[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Adam Albright wrote:[color=blue]
>
>
> The fact is Registry Cleaners work when used properly is well
> documented.[/color]


Then please provide links to such purported documentation. In all the
years I've supported the various Windows operating systems, I've *never*
been able to find any verifiable, independent laboratory reports that
demonstrate the alleged value of registry cleaners. The only people
claiming that registry cleaners do any real good are the people selling
them.

[color=blue]
> All that's required is learning how to use Google and
> you'll find countless articles from some REAL experts, not the fakers
> that hang out here that confirm it.
>[/color]

No, all Google turns up is marketing crap from the purveyors of these
snake oil products. No independent laboratory reports that even hint at
any benefits from using registry cleaners are to be found.


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Bruce Chambers wrote:[color=blue]
> Adam Albright wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>
>> The fact is Registry Cleaners work when used properly is well
>> documented.[/color]
>
>
> Then please provide links to such purported documentation. In all
> the years I've supported the various Windows operating systems, I've
> *never* been able to find any verifiable, independent laboratory reports
> that demonstrate the alleged value of registry cleaners. The only
> people claiming that registry cleaners do any real good are the people
> selling them.
>
>[color=green]
>> All that's required is learning how to use Google and
>> you'll find countless articles from some REAL experts, not the fakers
>> that hang out here that confirm it.[/color]
>
> No, all Google turns up is marketing crap from the purveyors of
> these snake oil products. No independent laboratory reports that even
> hint at any benefits from using registry cleaners are to be found.
>
>[/color]

So don't use them.

Alias

look up

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:eWGB9ObwHHA.4640@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Bruce Chambers wrote:[color=green]
>> Adam Albright wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> The fact is Registry Cleaners work when used properly is well
>>> documented.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Then please provide links to such purported documentation. In all
>> the years I've supported the various Windows operating systems, I've
>> *never* been able to find any verifiable, independent laboratory reports
>> that demonstrate the alleged value of registry cleaners. The only people
>> claiming that registry cleaners do any real good are the people selling
>> them.
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> All that's required is learning how to use Google and
>>> you'll find countless articles from some REAL experts, not the fakers
>>> that hang out here that confirm it.[/color]
>>
>> No, all Google turns up is marketing crap from the purveyors of these
>> snake oil products. No independent laboratory reports that even hint at
>> any benefits from using registry cleaners are to be found.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> So don't use them.
>
> Alias[/color]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:00:08 +0200, Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
[color=blue]
>So don't use them.[/color]

That right there is the BEST registry cleaner. NONE.
If someone wants to mess up their machine, just run regedit and start deleting things.
There's NEVER any need to physically by hand delete registry keys.
The key's are just taking up drive space until needed. Get a bigger HD ifthe registry's that big.
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