Kerry Brown wrote:
[color=blue]
> System Restore, Regedit, and Windows Explorer
>[/color]
Don't forget Reinstall.

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy

"Another implied I'm smarter than you..."
Whatever you CHOOSE to ASSUME is up to you.
However most know what ASSUME means and again you do it.
It seems your insecurity shows in another way since you CHOOSE to see
what is not there.

"Show me ANYBODY that pretends they know what every single entry..."
I never said any such thing.
But users need to know what a specific key does before letting the
cleaner remove it.
Your NEED to twist what is said to fuel your agenda is noted...again.
However I do know those familiar with the registry almost to that
point you suggest.
They and others manage the registry manually or use the tool to
identify then they decide what to delete.

"Just doing my part... to educate clueless MVPs."
Attacking again, such a typical post from you.
I thought you had matured beyond your stalking of a week ago.
Apparently I was mistaken since you NEED to stalk again as you have in
the past.
You obviously have no clue.
At least this time you contributed something to the thread where in
the past your entire contribution was NOTHING but attacks.

But a very typical post displaying your own insecurities as
demonstrated by your continuing need to attack to shore up your
position.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:ubgv83tqs6nf0m3jcdmv9lt8jtcon2dldf@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Another implied I'm smarter than you post from Jupiter.
>
> ROTFLMAO! So **** funny!
>
> Show me ANYBODY that pretends they know what every single entry in
> your Registry purpose is when your typical Vista Registry runs tens
> of
> thousands of lines and I'll show you a **** fool.
>
> While years ago Registry Cleaners were rather crude today they are
> safe IF you use them correctly. Saying nothing is to be gaining from
> cleaning dead wood from your Registry is like saying nothing is
> gained
> from removing that 800 pounds of sand you been dragging around in
> your
> car's trunk for years.
>
> One of the main reasons to use a Registry Cleaner is to clean up
> after
> applications that don't always remove themselves completely when you
> try to uninstall them. This can cause Windows to try to load a
> driver
> that isn't there anymore since there could be a line in the Registry
> that points to it still. This can cause the boot process to take
> longer or in a worse case can cause Windows to go into some endless
> loop trying to execute something in the Registry that isn't linked
> to
> anything anymore.
>
> Just doing my part... to educate clueless MVPs. <wink>[/color]

Mr. Happy wrote:
[color=blue]
> Kerry Brown wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>System Restore, Regedit, and Windows Explorer
>>[/color]
>
> Don't forget Reinstall.
>
> Shake Hands With,
> Mr. Happy
>
>
>
>[/color]
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It that you Doris? You're sounding more & more like the poster formally
know as "Doris Day".
He/she/it disappeared recently and now you appear sprouting the same
linux loser bs.
Well...?
Frank

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:02:38 -0700, notachance <nochance@all.to>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>For years I have avoided "registry cleaners". My VHP system is
>only ~10 weeks old, but has become quite slow despite several
>attempts to speed it up.
>
>In frustration I decided to try a reg cleaner, and picked a
>freeware product that has been highly recommended by those who
>believe in such a thing. I did a backup, restore point, etc. I
>then did four benchmarks:
>
>1. Batch Run (a little script) MSWord/Excel/PPt from Office 2007
>2. Batch Run FireFox/Tbird/WMail/+3 utilities
>3. Search & replace a complex conditional in a 20MB word file
>4. Reboot time (clean, two consecutive reboots, 2nd was timed)
>I know there are better ways to measure.
>
>The cleaner scanned and found 3306 unnecessary items, of which
>about 300 were "not completely safe to remove" and the rest were
>deemed "completely safe to remove". I scrolled through the list,
>and recognized quite a number of keys bearing names of apps
>removed and services unused. Like just about anyone, I had to
>decide whether to just click or to examine and guess on more
>than 3000 items. With a restore point and reg backup, and 100%
>files back up (Mozy), I crossed my fingers and clicked to "fix"
>the "safe" ones.
>
>It worked. The computer is obviously faster, and it's not
>placebo effect. It now loads Word/XL/PPt (all three) in 3
>seconds after pressing the hotkey - down from 9 - really! Comm
>apps loaded in half the time. The unit reboots fine and in only
>2/3 the time, under the same conditions (the second reboot,
>nothing loaded). S&R in the word file took about the same time.
>
>I have just converted from registry cleaner naysayer to a true
>believer. And I will NOT name the tool I used.[/color]


Notice that all the people saying never use a Registry Cleaner are
either the same crop of loud fanboys or clueless MVPs. Nothing beats
real word experiments as you've just detailed.

I think part of the hostility towards Registry Cleaners is once upon a
time they were garbage. Times change, things improve. Windows was once
garbage too. It's the same knock Real Player gets. It use to include
spyware and it got black listed, It hasn't for years, is still one of
the best players offering some of the best compression verses quality
you can get. Yet people hold a grudge or just are dumb and because of
it, take your pick, won't use it. ;-)

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:36:09 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Another implied I'm smarter than you..."
>Whatever you CHOOSE to ASSUME is up to you.
>However most know what ASSUME means and again you do it.
>It seems your insecurity shows in another way since you CHOOSE to see
>what is not there.[/color]

Speaking of insecurity, you're the one attaching MVP behind your name
as if that implies some superior knowledge. <snort>[color=blue]
>
>"Show me ANYBODY that pretends they know what every single entry..."
>I never said any such thing.[/color]

You implied it. Read nearly any post from any MVP on any topic and you
see the underlying pattern they know more, everybody else is dumb,
blah, blah, blah. So unprofessional and self-serving. What is YOUR
Ageneda that you have to attach MVP to every post?
[color=blue]
>But users need to know what a specific key does before letting the
>cleaner remove it.
>Your NEED to twist what is said to fuel your agenda is noted...again.[/color]

What agenda? I simply don't like boastful windbags that hide behind
MVP and pretend they know more than everybody else when time after
time they're proven wrong. Microsoft should have killed the MVP
program like they planned to do years ago BECAUSE of complaints like
mine because now it is little more than a joke with a bunch of
clueless wannabe types stinking of the groups they post to.
[color=blue]
>"Just doing my part... to educate clueless MVPs."
>Attacking again, such a typical post from you.[/color]

You are simply too thin skinned to be here, you can't contain your
anger, you're too proud to learn, too pigheaded to admit when you're
wrong. In other words, your typical MVP.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:36:32 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Mr. Happy wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>System Restore, Regedit, and Windows Explorer
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Don't forget Reinstall.
>>
>> Shake Hands With,
>> Mr. Happy
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>It that you Doris? You're sounding more & more like the poster formally
>know as "Doris Day".
>He/she/it disappeared recently and now you appear sprouting the same
>linux loser bs.
>Well...?
>Frank[/color]


You sound just like Justin the faker that tried so hard to pass
himself off as something he wasn't...just like you constantly do
Frank.

How's that chain letter scam of yours doing? Anybody dumb enough to
send to cash yet?

I recognize that my experiment (still 100% positive) with a
specific registry cleaner does not constitute a statistically
valid experiment, but it was MY EXPERIMENT.

This unit continues to be more responsive in many respects, with
no change in stability. Everything seems to work fine, and I've
clicked through many installed apps looking for problems. So
far, so great.

Maybe I was just lucky, but it's really a pleasure... It also
suggests that Vista speed issues justify an examination of the
Registry - and I don't know enough to go beyond that.

Adam Albright wrote:

[color=blue]
>
> You sound just like Justin the faker that tried so hard to pass
> himself off as something he wasn't...just like you constantly do
> Frank.
>
> How's that chain letter scam of yours doing? Anybody dumb enough to
> send to cash yet?
>[/color]

---------------------------------------------------------------

Do you always let the bottle do you're talking for you?
That's weak...you're weak lil'georgie boy.
Grow up...get help..aa...rehab...at least do something cause you're
pathetic.
Frank

"as if that implies some superior knowledge"
As always you are free to ASSUME what you want.
But ASSUMPTIONS often tend to be wrong.

"see the underlying pattern they know more, everybody else is dumb,"
And yet it is YOU that needs to directly insult and let your
ASSUMPTIONS control your actions.

"Microsoft should have killed the MVP program like they planned"
Do you communicate this to Microsoft as you have previously been told?
Or it it something you continuously whine?

"I simply don't like boastful windbags"
Interesting answer when I said:
"users need to know what a specific key does"
You seem to let your emotions take control when you do not like what
is said but you can not dispute the need for users to be
knowledgeable.

"you can't contain your anger"
So you say, and yet is is you unable to communicate without insulting.
Just because you imagine anger does not make it so.
If there is anger, it seems to be you since you are the one unable to
communicate without insults.
Keep ASSUMING, typical for you.

Don't bother answering unless you can do so in a civil manner.
I doubt you have the self control to be civil, but we shall see.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:nvjv83dlo8cb1cp4vu5je3g3kmj73qk3d3@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:36:09 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"Another implied I'm smarter than you..."
>>Whatever you CHOOSE to ASSUME is up to you.
>>However most know what ASSUME means and again you do it.
>>It seems your insecurity shows in another way since you CHOOSE to
>>see
>>what is not there.[/color]
>
> Speaking of insecurity, you're the one attaching MVP behind your
> name
> as if that implies some superior knowledge. <snort>[color=green]
>>
>>"Show me ANYBODY that pretends they know what every single entry..."
>>I never said any such thing.[/color]
>
> You implied it. Read nearly any post from any MVP on any topic and
> you
> see the underlying pattern they know more, everybody else is dumb,
> blah, blah, blah. So unprofessional and self-serving. What is YOUR
> Ageneda that you have to attach MVP to every post?
>[color=green]
>>But users need to know what a specific key does before letting the
>>cleaner remove it.
>>Your NEED to twist what is said to fuel your agenda is
>>noted...again.[/color]
>
> What agenda? I simply don't like boastful windbags that hide behind
> MVP and pretend they know more than everybody else when time after
> time they're proven wrong. Microsoft should have killed the MVP
> program like they planned to do years ago BECAUSE of complaints like
> mine because now it is little more than a joke with a bunch of
> clueless wannabe types stinking of the groups they post to.
>[color=green]
>>"Just doing my part... to educate clueless MVPs."
>>Attacking again, such a typical post from you.[/color]
>
> You are simply too thin skinned to be here, you can't contain your
> anger, you're too proud to learn, too pigheaded to admit when you're
> wrong. In other words, your typical MVP.
>[/color]

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:20:29 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"as if that implies some superior knowledge"
>As always you are free to ASSUME what you want.
>But ASSUMPTIONS often tend to be wrong.[/color]

Like yours that you can't get any benefit from Registry Cleaners?

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:k5jv839smrup57gmhfho9ns657ie2jddr7@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:02:38 -0700, notachance <nochance@all.to>
> wrote:
> I think part of the hostility towards Registry Cleaners is once upon a
> time they were garbage. Times change, things improve. Windows was once
> garbage too. It's the same knock Real Player gets. It use to include
> spyware and it got black listed, It hasn't for years, is still one of
> the best players offering some of the best compression verses quality
> you can get. Yet people hold a grudge or just are dumb and because of
> it, take your pick, won't use it. ;-)[/color]


As someone who does a little programming on the side, and one who writes using windows
APIs,
let me make a comment on registry cleaners.
Yes they will find "currently unused registry entries."
Occasionally they will actually correct a registry related problem that will prevent
installation of a program.

However, keep in mind that there are lot of static registry entries that are in place to
ensure
backwards compatibility with older programs, especially when it comes to using API calls
to ordinals ( routines in DLL files )
Example, if I reference, in my application, a dll procedure from a dll that was included
with Windows 98 and that
dll has been upgraded / replaced by a newer dll in newer windows versions, the entries in
the registry will automatically point my program to the newest version of the DLL on the
machine in which the application is installed.

So, if the "base" entry has been removed from the registry, guess what, my backwards
compatible app fails to run.

So as was stated earlier in the thread, use "ANY" registry cleaner at your own risk, and
when the app you try to install
That's "supposed" to be compatible with your new windows version fails to run, don't blame
the author, restore your registry.

And yep I'm an MVP for a different technology and YEP I will include it in my sig.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
[url]http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm[/url]
Hit Me FP
[url]http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm[/url]

"Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
> vista
> Ultimate.............[/color]

There isn't one.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

I agree with most that it is not necessary and requires caution. That said
Alias recommendation works fine and ALWAYS let it backup any entries you are
going to delete. Unless you do a huge amount of installing and uninstalling
of programs I would forget about it.


"Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
> vista
> Ultimate.............[/color]

"can't get any benefit from Registry Cleaners"
I never said that .
Go back and read my posts again probably for the first time.
Typical how you need to twist what was said to fit your agenda.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:cnov83p9rkeffu8b8mjis202btorspm38s@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:20:29 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"as if that implies some superior knowledge"
>>As always you are free to ASSUME what you want.
>>But ASSUMPTIONS often tend to be wrong.[/color]
>
> Like yours that you can't get any benefit from Registry Cleaners?
>[/color]

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 15:09:55 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"can't get any benefit from Registry Cleaners"
>I never said that .
>Go back and read my posts again probably for the first time.
>Typical how you need to twist what was said to fit your agenda.[/color]


****, Jupiter you're so good at back pedaling! That's your true
talent.