>Perhaps any build-up in the registry is a bit like all those redundant bits[color=blue]
>of our DNA - they are there but don't do any harm or slow us down
>appreciably.[/color]

This is very true and it is because the system knows the address or relative
offset for it to get any information from the registry. It does not go thru
the hives one by one. On top of that it is not a single file but a few.


"Doug" <doug@FAKEpleasereplytogroup.com> wrote in message
news:etGQotjbIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Agreed. This was discussed at great length and with some fervour about six
> months back, and from what I remember the consensus that eventually
> emerged was NEVER to use registry cleaners with Vista.
>
> I had been addicted to them, and used three in rotation each day along
> with a compacting routine in one of them. The more little annoyances that
> crept in to my system the more avidly I decontaminated my system with the
> registry cleaners until it all crashed catastrophically. After that I
> reinstalled Windows Vista and I have never used a registry cleaner since.
> My system has remained stable for months.
>
> Perhaps any build-up in the registry is a bit like all those redundant
> bits of our DNA - they are there but don't do any harm or slow us down
> appreciably. I suppose you could say I was a control freak, but that now
> I've gone rather more organic :)
>
> "Not Me" <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> news:umkUduhbIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> My rule is simple, and written policy. Install a registry cleaner (or
>> other unauthorised software) and face disciplinary action.[/color]
>[/color]

In article <umkUduhbIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
Not Me <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote:[color=blue]
>My rule is simple, and written policy.
>Install a registry cleaner (or other unauthorized software) and face
>disciplinary action.
>[/color]

Lol, you're either the V.P. or ISM... If I tried that kind
of Draconian heavy-handedness I don't think I'd last too long. My
rules a lot simpler: Blow up your PC and I'll restore the standard
image. When I get time :-) People who ring the IDS get blocked, and
truly secure networks have dedicated hardware so I'm not concerned with
someone attaching a corrupt system to a sensitive network...
[color=blue]
>Unless you're a super geek, using a registry cleaner is like trying to
>disarm a nuke with fingernail clippers.[/color]

Well, gee, I dunno, I've experimented with commercial products
and don't see the need (i.e. no difference between before and after) but
can't ever recall a problem that wasn't easily fixable.

IMHO there's no reason to treat a laptop like a portable nuclear
reactor. It's just a PC. And users are like kids :-) treat 'em with
respect and give them room to learn and you'll have smarter users than if
you nail everything down and give 'em all restricted shells that output
rude comments if they try to read cnn.com. Besides, I'm not a babysitter.

"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
news:fouve9$2te$1@reader2.panix.com...[color=blue]
> In article <umkUduhbIHA.5348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
> Not Me <cargod01@bresnan.net> wrote:[color=green]
>>My rule is simple, and written policy.
>>Install a registry cleaner (or other unauthorized software) and face
>>disciplinary action.
>>[/color]
>
> Lol, you're either the V.P. or ISM... If I tried that kind
> of Draconian heavy-handedness I don't think I'd last too long. My
> rules a lot simpler: Blow up your PC and I'll restore the standard
> image. When I get time :-) People who ring the IDS get blocked, and
> truly secure networks have dedicated hardware so I'm not concerned with
> someone attaching a corrupt system to a sensitive network...
>[color=green]
>>Unless you're a super geek, using a registry cleaner is like trying to
>>disarm a nuke with fingernail clippers.[/color]
>
> Well, gee, I dunno, I've experimented with commercial products
> and don't see the need (i.e. no difference between before and after) but
> can't ever recall a problem that wasn't easily fixable.
>
> IMHO there's no reason to treat a laptop like a portable nuclear
> reactor. It's just a PC. And users are like kids :-) treat 'em with
> respect and give them room to learn and you'll have smarter users than if
> you nail everything down and give 'em all restricted shells that output
> rude comments if they try to read cnn.com. Besides, I'm not a babysitter.
>[/color]
You know, I am getting tired of UAC. Stinks like rotten tomatoes.
I'll turn it off AFTER i download Mandriva Linux. Testing it to see what
changed so far.
I love Mandriva linux. Its the easiest one to work work. to install a
program, merely enter your root password.
Surprise. You, as the user and sysop, have complete control over your
desktop.
My mother is talking about upgrading me to a freebsd computer soon. Hope its
a MAC.
I really love the products they have to offer. After 18 years of MS, it will
be good to get back
to my old programming ways without worrying about the next OS upgrade or
that constant hacker who thinks your
client PC is a file server and can take anything on it without permission.
I share files with my mother and father. (they are in their 60's, I am in my
40's.
I share files through the public document folder. I can't figure out how to
share between the three on a private network.
The number got messed of on the router/modem. they are not the same ones we
started with last year.
Never use a registry cleaner. I found out the hard way when Windows Live
Messenger would no no longer work.
I had restore all the changes and restart the Vista PC;.
Does not matter. I was experimenting with it, figuring out how it works.
That cleaner was a POS.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:11:12 -0800, Malke wrote:
[color=blue]
> If you decide to use CCleaner, I'd give the registry tool portion
> a miss.[/color]

Why? It just seems to identify missing files in data values and
removes the corresponding keys. Nothing wrong with that - is there?

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Computers are only human.

For the wharf rat
Highly amusing! LOL
Thanks
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"the wharf rat" wrote:
[color=blue]
> In article <E19A7D1E-76DD-4632-9F9C-D82996894FCE@microsoft.com>,
> Martin <Martin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:[color=green]
> >
> >Most seem to advise caution when using registry cleaners,[/color]
>
> Fer shure. For one thing, never breathe the fumes. And always
> use rubber gloves when you're cleaning your registry. Also keep away
> from children. (Keep the cleaner away. You're probably safe enough.)
>
> FWIW, I have XP boxes that have run for many years with no
> attention to the registry, and they've had much installation and de-
> installation. I think this used to be more of a problem with 9x.
>
>[/color]

I have found the very best registry cleaner so far is WinUtilities
I've been using it now for over a year and it works great.

for all of you that think it does not help all I can say is
your wroung. the things you say I guess is because your not using them
because they can cause a lot of problems with a bad cleaner, some
products out there delete things that makes someing not work right
or makes windows hang.

I can say after testing about
20 of these products the WinUtilites workes on Vista 64 bit,
and it always makes my maching run faster and less startup time,
with it you get a lot of other things the best thing is thay
have a 30 day tryout time so check it out. I'm using 6.6 winutilities.


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"togrosky" <togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have found the very best registry cleaner so far is WinUtilities
> I've been using it now for over a year and it works great.
>
> for all of you that think it does not help all I can say is
> your wroung.[/color]

Why would you think that you need one in the first place? I have NEVER in 15
years of Windows use ever needed or used a registry "cleaner".

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"togrosky" <togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com...[color=blue]
>
> I have found the very best registry cleaner so far is WinUtilities
> I've been using it now for over a year and it works great.
>
> for all of you that think it does not help all I can say is
> your wroung. the things you say I guess is because your not using them
> because they can cause a lot of problems with a bad cleaner, some
> products out there delete things that makes someing not work right
> or makes windows hang.
>
> I can say after testing about
> 20 of these products the WinUtilites workes on Vista 64 bit,
> and it always makes my maching run faster and less startup time,
> with it you get a lot of other things the best thing is thay
> have a 30 day tryout time so check it out. I'm using 6.6 winutilities.
>
>
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Gordon wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "togrosky" <togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com...[color=green]
>>
>> I have found the very best registry cleaner so far is WinUtilities
>> I've been using it now for over a year and it works great.
>>
>> for all of you that think it does not help all I can say is
>> your wroung.[/color]
>
> Why would you think that you need one in the first place? I have NEVER
> in 15 years of Windows use ever needed or used a registry "cleaner".
>[/color]

Me either, never saw the point. Also, everything I've seen/heard about
them tends to cause more harm than good. The registry is something to
just randomly muck about it and you sure don't want some program running
through it willy-nilly!

Enema works better.
Beans soup + watermelon + orange juice + milk.
Mix it all, and cleansing is guaranteed

Dr. Gastro

I delete keys by myself, have enough brains for that.

"milt" <theatreguy_spam@miltsspamweb.com> wrote in message
news:ejj52426JHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Gordon wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> "togrosky" <togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> I have found the very best registry cleaner so far is WinUtilities
>>> I've been using it now for over a year and it works great.
>>>
>>> for all of you that think it does not help all I can say is
>>> your wroung.[/color]
>>
>> Why would you think that you need one in the first place? I have NEVER in
>> 15 years of Windows use ever needed or used a registry "cleaner".
>>[/color]
>
> Me either, never saw the point. Also, everything I've seen/heard about
> them tends to cause more harm than good. The registry is something to just
> randomly muck about it and you sure don't want some program running
> through it willy-nilly![/color]

Absolutely, and orphaned registry entries usually have no discernable effect
on performance. Certainly with the NTFS versions of Windows....

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"togrosky" <togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have found the very best registry cleaner so far is WinUtilities
> I've been using it now for over a year and it works great.
> ...
> I can say after testing about
> 20 of these products the ...
> togrosky
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------[/color]

I occasionally run a reg cleaner and a reg defrag reported a drop from maybe
90 to 60mb of total size last time.
My question would be to you togrosky is after 20 different reg cleaners ...
how many redX's and yellow exclamations do you show at start up now ? As
many do tend to create some minor problems that are a
headache/time-consuming to eliminate.

Gordon wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "togrosky" <togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:togrosky.3to63b@DoNotSpam.com...[color=green]
>>
>> I have found the very best registry cleaner so far is WinUtilities
>> I've been using it now for over a year and it works great.
>>
>> for all of you that think it does not help all I can say is
>> your wroung.[/color]
>
> Why would you think that you need one in the first place? I have NEVER
> in 15 years of Windows use ever needed or used a registry "cleaner".
>[/color]
Right, I have to reinstall Windows so often my registry never needs
cleaning.

I use CCLEANER. Never had a problem