A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love Windows
Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.

Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems Level
Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).

P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To Vote
No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.

What is a time limit to evaluate it?
I could not find that info.
Jack

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815********.com> wrote in message
news:467FF5A4.50601********.com...[color=blue]
>A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love Windows
>Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
>
> Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems Level
> Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
>
> P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To Vote
> No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
>[/color]

Kevin John Panzke wrote:[color=blue]
> A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love[/color]
Windows[color=blue]
> Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
>
> Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems[/color]
Level[color=blue]
> Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
>
> P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To[/color]
Vote[color=blue]
> No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
>[/color]

Untrue....

Vista is shall I say.. in pre alpha state.. but server 2008 is beta, so
more advanced than vista, and is faster indeed than vista... why?

Because it does not have all the vista crap installed by default..
if you start adding them back it gets as bogged down as Vista..

also server2008 has less drivers than vista rtm has at this stage...

numerous problems on test systems I have tried it on...


It is a bit better but not something to be fond about...

I had various blue screens and freezes because of problematic driver
support...



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If you don't like Vista as an Operating System why would anyone want to pay
for and run a Server OS on their PC? It is 2 different animals. 99.9% of
the people using Vista don't need, nor want to deal with a server OS. To
test it is a complete waste of time. Who cares? Not only shouldn't they
run a Server product, the normal antivirus products don't work on the
server, Beta or release, so they will need to purchase a server edition.

This is totally useless information and I'm not sure why you posted this.
Also, why do you need to add political commentary to your posts? Shouldn't
you be posting in another group? Remember, this is a Vista forum!


"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815********.com> wrote in message
news:467FF5A4.50601********.com...[color=blue]
>A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love Windows
>Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
>
> Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems Level
> Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
>
> P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To Vote
> No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
>[/color]

Bill Yanaire wrote:
[color=blue]
> If you don't like Vista as an Operating System why would anyone want
> to pay for and run a Server OS on their PC? It is 2 different
> animals. 99.9% of the people using Vista don't need, nor want to
> deal with a server OS. To test it is a complete waste of time. Who
> cares? Not only shouldn't they run a Server product, the normal
> antivirus products don't work on the server, Beta or release, so they
> will need to purchase a server edition.
>
> This is totally useless information and I'm not sure why you posted
> this. Also, why do you need to add political commentary to your
> posts? Shouldn't you be posting in another group? Remember, this is
> a Vista forum!
>
>
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815********.com> wrote in message
> news:467FF5A4.50601********.com...[color=green]
> > A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love
> > Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
> >
> > Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems
> > Level Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
> >
> > P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To
> > Vote No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
> >[/color][/color]

You are extremly negative arent you?



beta 3 will function up until around may 2008 and has everything vista
has...
plus more

My tests showed it faster.. since when you install it its kinda
barebone and
you can add what you want back

you can convert it into a desktop OS, just like many many people used
server2003 as a desktop because of its added stability...

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beta 3 will function up until around may 2008 and has everything vista
has...
plus more

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How can you convert Windows server into a desktop OS?


"hello" <he@l.lo> wrote in message
news:467ff421$0$16340$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=blue]
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>[color=green]
>> If you don't like Vista as an Operating System why would anyone want
>> to pay for and run a Server OS on their PC? It is 2 different
>> animals. 99.9% of the people using Vista don't need, nor want to
>> deal with a server OS. To test it is a complete waste of time. Who
>> cares? Not only shouldn't they run a Server product, the normal
>> antivirus products don't work on the server, Beta or release, so they
>> will need to purchase a server edition.
>>
>> This is totally useless information and I'm not sure why you posted
>> this. Also, why do you need to add political commentary to your
>> posts? Shouldn't you be posting in another group? Remember, this is
>> a Vista forum!
>>
>>
>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815********.com> wrote in message
>> news:467FF5A4.50601********.com...[color=darkred]
>> > A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love
>> > Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
>> >
>> > Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems
>> > Level Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
>> >
>> > P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To
>> > Vote No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
>> >[/color][/color]
>
> You are extremly negative arent you?
>
>
>
> beta 3 will function up until around may 2008 and has everything vista
> has...
> plus more
>
> My tests showed it faster.. since when you install it its kinda
> barebone and
> you can add what you want back
>
> you can convert it into a desktop OS, just like many many people used
> server2003 as a desktop because of its added stability...
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url]
>[/color]

Vista is in pre alpha state? Get a life. It went live months ago.


"hello" <he@l.lo> wrote in message
news:467ff239$0$28879$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=blue]
> Kevin John Panzke wrote:[color=green]
>> A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love[/color]
> Windows[color=green]
>> Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
>>
>> Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems[/color]
> Level[color=green]
>> Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
>>
>> P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To[/color]
> Vote[color=green]
>> No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
>>[/color]
>
> Untrue....
>
> Vista is shall I say.. in pre alpha state.. but server 2008 is beta, so
> more advanced than vista, and is faster indeed than vista... why?
>
> Because it does not have all the vista crap installed by default..
> if you start adding them back it gets as bogged down as Vista..
>
> also server2008 has less drivers than vista rtm has at this stage...
>
> numerous problems on test systems I have tried it on...
>
>
> It is a bit better but not something to be fond about...
>
> I had various blue screens and freezes because of problematic driver
> support...
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url]
>[/color]

Bill Yanaire wrote:
[color=blue]
> How can you convert Windows server into a desktop OS?
>
>
> "hello" <he@l.lo> wrote in message
> news:467ff421$0$16340$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=green]
> > Bill Yanaire wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > If you don't like Vista as an Operating System why would anyone
> > > want to pay for and run a Server OS on their PC? It is 2
> > > different animals. 99.9% of the people using Vista don't need,
> > > nor want to deal with a server OS. To test it is a complete
> > > waste of time. Who cares? Not only shouldn't they run a Server
> > > product, the normal antivirus products don't work on the server,
> > > Beta or release, so they will need to purchase a server edition.
> > >
> > > This is totally useless information and I'm not sure why you
> > > posted this. Also, why do you need to add political commentary to
> > > your posts? Shouldn't you be posting in another group?
> > > Remember, this is a Vista forum!
> > >
> > >
> >>"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815********.com> wrote in message
> > > news:467FF5A4.50601********.com...
> >>> A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love
> >>> Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
> > > >
> >>> Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems
> >>> Level Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
> > > >
> >>> P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them[/color][/color]
> To >>> Vote No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just
> FYI.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > >[/color]
> >
> > You are extremly negative arent you?
> >
> >
> >
> > beta 3 will function up until around may 2008 and has everything
> > vista has...
> > plus more
> >
> > My tests showed it faster.. since when you install it its kinda
> > barebone and
> > you can add what you want back
> >
> > you can convert it into a desktop OS, just like many many people
> > used server2003 as a desktop because of its added stability...
> >
> > --
> >
> > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url]
> >[/color][/color]

You should download it and try it on a virtual machine...
its a free beta download.

at first it is a barebone system, then you can add "desktop experience"
that adds all the stuff vista has..


You just have to tweak it a bit to function as a desktop, for example
it has some settings there to give priority to the background apps, but
that can be changed... also you are loged in as "super admin" by
default, so you would need to add another account.

It is greater than vista in the sense that it can do anything vista can
PLUS more.

But if you know a bit about computers you can do the changes needed.\

Is it for a grandma? No... she should stick with something easy and
simple.. and that is NOT Vista by the way... lol

Also what you said about antivirus programs is incorrect.

Many people use Server 2003 as a desktop and never wanted to go back to
XP.. the same will happen with 2008 and vista.. in fact its already
happening!!!

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Bill Yanaire wrote:
[color=blue]
> Vista is in pre alpha state? Get a life. It went live months ago.
>
>
> "hello" <he@l.lo> wrote in message
> news:467ff239$0$28879$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=green]
> > Kevin John Panzke wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love[/color]
> > Windows[color=darkred]
> > > Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
> > >
> > > Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems[/color]
> > Level[color=darkred]
> > > Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
> > >
> > > P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them
> > > To[/color]
> > Vote[color=darkred]
> > > No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
> > >[/color]
> >
> > Untrue....
> >
> > Vista is shall I say.. in pre alpha state.. but server 2008 is
> > beta, so more advanced than vista, and is faster indeed than
> > vista... why?
> >
> > Because it does not have all the vista crap installed by default..
> > if you start adding them back it gets as bogged down as Vista..
> >
> > also server2008 has less drivers than vista rtm has at this stage...
> >
> > numerous problems on test systems I have tried it on...
> >
> >
> > It is a bit better but not something to be fond about...
> >
> > I had various blue screens and freezes because of problematic driver
> > support...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url]
> >[/color][/color]

It is "theoretically" in RTM, but the quality is pre-alpha...
IT people wont get close to it with a 10 foot pole unless it has a SP,
that will be actually the contiuation of the development they left
incomplete in order to hastily push it out the doors. This was a bad
move of MS.Vista was not ready.. and they knew it.

You need something to get those nerves calmed.. why dont you go outside
and relax?

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The Kevin Panzke Syndrome is a term used when a person has certain
limitations in mental functioning and in skills such as communicating,
taking care of him or herself, and social skills. These limitations will
cause a poster to learn and develop more slowly than a typical poster.
Former Postal Employees with Kevin Panzke Syndrome may take longer to learn
to speak, walk, and take care of their personal needs such as dressing or
eating. They are likely to have trouble learning in school, and posting to
Microsoft newsgroups. They will learn, but it will take them longer. There
may be some things they cannot learn. They keep trying. Make sure to
continue your Meds.

Just FYI.

Karen Jane Panze (Not an MSDN Subscriber) - Just FYI



"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815********.com> wrote in message
news:467FF5A4.50601********.com...[color=blue]
>A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love Windows
>Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
>
> Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems Level
> Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
>
> P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To Vote
> No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
>[/color]

Write your Senators about right wing nutjobs like Kevin. They should be
locked up to keep society safe. Just FYI.

Just FYI.

Karen Jane Panze (Not an MSDN Subscriber or a Windows Server 2008 Beta
Tester or a Right Wing Wacko)

Just FYI

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815********.com> wrote in message
news:467FF5A4.50601********.com...[color=blue]
>A Friendly Reminder: If You Hate Windows Vista RTM, You'll Love Windows
>Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Just FYI.
>
> Kevin John Panzke (Microsoft Beta Tester, MSDN Operating Systems Level
> Subscriber, And Microsoft Tech Net Direct Subscriber).
>
> P.S. Remember To Call Or Write Your U.S. Senator's And Tell Them To Vote
> No On Cloture For The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, Just FYI.
>[/color]

This Is A Friendly Reminder That The Majority Of The American People Are
Opposed To Both The Union Dues Bill That Is Currently On The Senate
Floor, They Are Also Opposed To The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, And
They Are Also Opposed To Establishing A Gas Guzzler Tax On Their
Favorite Vehicles Of Choice, The Mini Van's, The Sport Utility
Vehicle's, And The Pick Up Truck's (Which Is Exactly What Last Week's
Energy Bill, HR 6 Would Establish, Which Just Barely Got The 60 Votes
Needed For Ending The Filibuster, So That They Could Proceed To Final
Passage, Just FYI.

This Is A Friendly Reminder That The Majority Of The American People Are
Opposed To Both The Union Dues Bill That Is Currently On The Senate
Floor, They Are Also Opposed To The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, And
They Are Also Opposed To Establishing A Gas Guzzler Tax On Their
Favorite Vehicles Of Choice, The Mini Van's, The Sport Utility
Vehicle's, And The Pick Up Truck's (Which Is Exactly What Last Week's
Energy Bill, HR 6 Would Establish, Which Just Barely Got The 60 Votes
Needed For Ending The Filibuster, So That They Could Proceed To Final
Passage, Just FYI.

This is a friendly reminder that Kevin is a nut job and that the majority of
the American people are NOT opposed to both the Union Dues bill that is
currently on the Senate floor. It is YOUR twisted option that the majority
are opposed to which you have no clue you mental midget. Just FYI

Why do you keep using this forum for your political opinions you Douche Bag?
Just FYI

Why not get back to your anger management class and reporting in to your
parole officer twice a week like you are required to do? Just FYI

Remember when you were caught in the boys bathroom at the YMCA with your
pants down to your ankles? You want us to listen to your political trash
spewed here in the Vista group? Get a life. Just FYI

Go play with your Windows 2008 Beta 2 Beta program and stop bothering people
here, JUST FYI.

How about going to an abortion clinic and saving a life. Tell a woman that
you want to adopt a baby that she is about to kill?

Karen Jane Panze (Not an MSDN Subscriber or a right wing wacko) Just FYI
"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815********.com> wrote in message
news:46801217.6060403********.com...[color=blue]
> This Is A Friendly Reminder That The Majority Of The American People Are
> Opposed To Both The Union Dues Bill That Is Currently On The Senate Floor,
> They Are Also Opposed To The Bush - Kennedy Amnesty Bill, And They Are
> Also Opposed To Establishing A Gas Guzzler Tax On Their Favorite Vehicles
> Of Choice, The Mini Van's, The Sport Utility Vehicle's, And The Pick Up
> Truck's (Which Is Exactly What Last Week's Energy Bill, HR 6 Would
> Establish, Which Just Barely Got The 60 Votes Needed For Ending The
> Filibuster, So That They Could Proceed To Final Passage, Just FYI.
>[/color]