I'm using Vista Home Premium

This has fixed nearly all my permissions

[url]http://dazzy.org/vista/TakeOwn.zip[/url]

The Old Bloke wrote:[color=blue]
> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>
> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>
> hxxp://dazzy.xxx/vista/TakeOwn.zip[/color]

I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged) does
an automatic direct download of the zip file without any identification
whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even though I don't run
Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to help other Vista
users or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus Spreader.

In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and want
to suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the product's
homepage along with a description of what the program does and how it
helped you.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
[url]www.elephantboycomputers.com[/url]
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:eHfWbyZtHHA.1060@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> The Old Bloke wrote:[color=green]
>> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>>
>> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>>
>> hxxp://dazzy.xxx/vista/TakeOwn.zip[/color]
>
> I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged) does
> an automatic direct download of the zip file without any identification
> whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even though I don't run
> Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to help other Vista users
> or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus Spreader.
>
> In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and want to
> suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the product's homepage
> along with a description of what the program does and how it helped you.
>[/color]
I'm playing at nothing! This has worked for me., without a problem! I'll
do what I want next time. There is a positve history of this from othher
forum members.

I asked this question a couple of days ago and was told that it was not
possible with Visata, and then told to "Get used to it" Well it it is not
true. This does work. If you don't trust it, your problem, not mine.

Doug

The point is still valid. Hackers try to get people to download and run
stuff all the time, sometimes by linking directly to the file.

If you want people to listen to you, you should try to be a little more
sensitive to security concerns.

A link to a page where the file is described and you have the option to
download it is ok, but linking directly to a file is a bad idea.

KB

"The Old Bloke" wrote in message news:137qcfsekijh84d@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Malke" wrote in message ...[color=green]
>> The Old Bloke wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>>>
>>> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>>>
>>> hxxp://dazzy.xxx/vista/TakeOwn.zip[/color]
>>
>> I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged) does
>> an automatic direct download of the zip file without any identification
>> whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even though I don't run
>> Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to help other Vista users
>> or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus Spreader.
>>
>> In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and want
>> to suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the product's
>> homepage along with a description of what the program does and how it
>> helped you.
>>[/color]
> I'm playing at nothing! This has worked for me., without a problem! I'll
> do what I want next time. There is a positve history of this from othher
> forum members.
>
> I asked this question a couple of days ago and was told that it was not
> possible with Visata, and then told to "Get used to it" Well it it is not
> true. This does work. If you don't trust it, your problem, not mine.
>
> Doug[/color]

On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take

--

Bob Eyster
MS Windows Vista Home Premium



"KristleBawl" <kristlebawl********.com> wrote in message
news:%23XhpAmatHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> The point is still valid. Hackers try to get people to download and run
> stuff all the time, sometimes by linking directly to the file.
>
> If you want people to listen to you, you should try to be a little more
> sensitive to security concerns.
>
> A link to a page where the file is described and you have the option to
> download it is ok, but linking directly to a file is a bad idea.
>
> KB
>
> "The Old Bloke" wrote in message
> news:137qcfsekijh84d@corp.supernews.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Malke" wrote in message ...[color=darkred]
>>> The Old Bloke wrote:
>>>> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>>>>
>>>> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>>>>
>>>> hxxp://dazzy.xxx/vista/TakeOwn.zip
>>>
>>> I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged) does
>>> an automatic direct download of the zip file without any identification
>>> whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even though I don't run
>>> Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to help other Vista
>>> users or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus Spreader.
>>>
>>> In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and want
>>> to suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the product's
>>> homepage along with a description of what the program does and how it
>>> helped you.
>>>[/color]
>> I'm playing at nothing! This has worked for me., without a problem!
>> I'll do what I want next time. There is a positve history of this from
>> othher forum members.
>>
>> I asked this question a couple of days ago and was told that it was not
>> possible with Visata, and then told to "Get used to it" Well it it is
>> not true. This does work. If you don't trust it, your problem, not
>> mine.
>>
>> Doug[/color]
>[/color]

Bob Eyster wrote:[color=blue]
> On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
> Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take
>[/color]

Yes, of course but you can lessen the chance by not immediately
downloading a file. I stand by what I said which had nothing to do with
whether the program in question worked for the OP and everything to do
with not being harmful to others. You may be computer-savvy but many
others who post here are not and they should not be blindly downloading
stuff.

Since the OP has stated that he will do "whatever he wants" and never
mind being polite and a good Usenet citizen, he goes on my "troll list".


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
[url]www.elephantboycomputers.com[/url]
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

"The Old Bloke" <leopard32@XXGmail.com> wrote in message
news:137q3o19vkgtse3@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue]
> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>
> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>
> [url]http://dazzy.org/vista/TakeOwn.zip[/url]
>
>
>
>[/color]


As Malke pointed out no one who knows anything about computers will blindly
download a .zip file because someone on a newsgroup said it "fixed" some
indeterminate problem. I have no idea what this program does but from the
name and what little you told us I'm guessing it changes some file
permissions to make Vista act more like XP. This will seriously compromise
the security in Vista and is not recommended unless you have the skills to
return the file system to it's default state if needed. Many of the built in
programs and features in Vista require the default file permissions to work
properly. In the future as programs, drivers, utilities, whatever are
written for Vista having the file permissions in an unknown state may cause
many unexplained problems that will be impossible to track down. I'm not
saying changing file permissions is inherently bad. I am saying posting a
link to a program that makes unknown changes to file permissions and urging
other people to run it is a really bad idea. To do so in a newsgroup
frequented by many beginning computer users is very irresponsible.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
[url]http://www.vistahelp.ca[/url]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:14:45 -0700, "Kerry Brown"
<kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"The Old Bloke" <leopard32@XXGmail.com> wrote in message
>news:137q3o19vkgtse3@corp.supernews.com...[color=green]
>> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>>
>> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>>
>> [url]http://dazzy.org/vista/TakeOwn.zip[/url]
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
>As Malke pointed out no one who knows anything about computers will blindly
>download a .zip file because someone on a newsgroup said it "fixed" some
>indeterminate problem. I have no idea what this program does but from the
>name and what little you told us I'm guessing it changes some file
>permissions to make Vista act more like XP. This will seriously compromise
>the security in Vista and is not recommended unless you have the skills to
>return the file system to it's default state if needed. Many of the built in
>programs and features in Vista require the default file permissions to work
>properly. In the future as programs, drivers, utilities, whatever are
>written for Vista having the file permissions in an unknown state may cause
>many unexplained problems that will be impossible to track down. I'm not
>saying changing file permissions is inherently bad. I am saying posting a
>link to a program that makes unknown changes to file permissions and urging
>other people to run it is a really bad idea. To do so in a newsgroup
>frequented by many beginning computer users is very irresponsible.[/color]


As bad as most MVP's running their mouth giving bad information? Even
beginners to computers quickly learn MVP often stands for Microsoft
shill, blowhard or wannabe.

Define work "properly", like you mean the file system is suppose to
crawl with copying files or moving them taking way longer than under
XP? Maybe you mean Vista saying it needs to close Windows Explorer
over and over. How about UAC nagging about you wanting to delete a
desktop shortcut? Media Player constantly crashing? Unable to write
files to the root drive? So many "improvements" had to guess which one
you mean.

Pretending Vista works great is way more irresponsible.

Adam Albright wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
>
> As bad as most MVP's running their mouth giving bad information? Even
> beginners to computers quickly learn MVP often stands for Microsoft
> shill, blowhard or wannabe.
>[/color]

Always open with an insult. How predictable you are!

[color=blue]
> Define work "properly", like you mean the file system is suppose to
> crawl with copying files or moving them taking way longer than under
> XP? Maybe you mean Vista saying it needs to close Windows Explorer
> over and over. How about UAC nagging about you wanting to delete a
> desktop shortcut? Media Player constantly crashing? Unable to write
> files to the root drive? So many "improvements" had to guess which one
> you mean.[/color]


I guess you missed that turn marked, "steeper learning curve ahead", huh?

[color=blue]
> Pretending Vista works great is way more irresponsible.[/color]


But pretending you actually know how to use Vista is "priceless".
Frank
ROTFLMAO

Bye Bob.

"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:uxwC$2btHHA.736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Bob Eyster wrote:[color=green]
>> On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
>> Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take
>>[/color]
>
> Yes, of course but you can lessen the chance by not immediately
> downloading a file. I stand by what I said which had nothing to do with
> whether the program in question worked for the OP and everything to do
> with not being harmful to others. You may be computer-savvy but many
> others who post here are not and they should not be blindly downloading
> stuff.
>
> Since the OP has stated that he will do "whatever he wants" and never mind
> being polite and a good Usenet citizen, he goes on my "troll list".
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> [url]www.elephantboycomputers.com[/url]
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User[/color]

"Bob Eyster" <reyster1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:eFMA43atHHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
> Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take
>
> --
>
> Bob Eyster
> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>
>
>
> "KristleBawl" <kristlebawl********.com> wrote in message
> news:%23XhpAmatHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> The point is still valid. Hackers try to get people to download and run
>> stuff all the time, sometimes by linking directly to the file.
>>
>> If you want people to listen to you, you should try to be a little more
>> sensitive to security concerns.
>>
>> A link to a page where the file is described and you have the option to
>> download it is ok, but linking directly to a file is a bad idea.
>>
>> KB
>>
>> "The Old Bloke" wrote in message
>> news:137qcfsekijh84d@corp.supernews.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Malke" wrote in message ...
>>>> The Old Bloke wrote:
>>>>> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>>>>>
>>>>> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>>>>>
>>>>> hxxp://dazzy.xxx/vista/TakeOwn.zip
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged)
>>>> does an automatic direct download of the zip file without any
>>>> identification whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even
>>>> though I don't run Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to
>>>> help other Vista users or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus Spreader.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and want
>>>> to suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the product's
>>>> homepage along with a description of what the program does and how it
>>>> helped you.
>>>>
>>> I'm playing at nothing! This has worked for me., without a problem!
>>> I'll do what I want next time. There is a positve history of this from
>>> othher forum members.
>>>
>>> I asked this question a couple of days ago and was told that it was not
>>> possible with Visata, and then told to "Get used to it" Well it it is
>>> not true. This does work. If you don't trust it, your problem, not
>>> mine.
>>>
>>> Doug[/color][/color][/color]
The difference is that I first checked the reliability of the .zip file, and
checked with other users that it was all OK on their system. I don't
consider I am irresponsible. I knew the risks if I hadn't fully checked it.

On my PC it has become a breathe of fresh air. Mine is a stand alone home
PC. MS should have disabled all this lock down for "Home" Versions. BTW,
Systems people hate this mod. How do I know? I used to be one before I
retired.

Regards

"The Old Bloke" <leopard32@XXGmail.com> wrote in message
news:137rgh058go9293@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Bob Eyster" <reyster1@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:eFMA43atHHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
>> Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bob Eyster
>> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>>
>>
>>
>> "KristleBawl" <kristlebawl********.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23XhpAmatHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> The point is still valid. Hackers try to get people to download and run
>>> stuff all the time, sometimes by linking directly to the file.
>>>
>>> If you want people to listen to you, you should try to be a little more
>>> sensitive to security concerns.
>>>
>>> A link to a page where the file is described and you have the option to
>>> download it is ok, but linking directly to a file is a bad idea.
>>>
>>> KB
>>>
>>> "The Old Bloke" wrote in message
>>> news:137qcfsekijh84d@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Malke" wrote in message ...
>>>>> The Old Bloke wrote:
>>>>>> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hxxp://dazzy.xxx/vista/TakeOwn.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged)
>>>>> does an automatic direct download of the zip file without any
>>>>> identification whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even
>>>>> though I don't run Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to
>>>>> help other Vista users or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus Spreader.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and
>>>>> want to suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the product's
>>>>> homepage along with a description of what the program does and how it
>>>>> helped you.
>>>>>
>>>> I'm playing at nothing! This has worked for me., without a problem!
>>>> I'll do what I want next time. There is a positve history of this from
>>>> othher forum members.
>>>>
>>>> I asked this question a couple of days ago and was told that it was not
>>>> possible with Visata, and then told to "Get used to it" Well it it is
>>>> not true. This does work. If you don't trust it, your problem, not
>>>> mine.
>>>>
>>>> Doug[/color][/color]
> The difference is that I first checked the reliability of the .zip file,
> and checked with other users that it was all OK on their system. I don't
> consider I am irresponsible. I knew the risks if I hadn't fully checked
> it.
>
> On my PC it has become a breathe of fresh air. Mine is a stand alone home
> PC. MS should have disabled all this lock down for "Home" Versions. BTW,
> Systems people hate this mod. How do I know? I used to be one before I
> retired.
>
> Regards
>[/color]


If you know what the file does then why not tell us what it does rather than
a generic statement that it fixes everything.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
[url]http://www.vistahelp.ca[/url]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:25:10 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Define work "properly", like you mean the file system is suppose to
>> crawl with copying files or moving them taking way longer than under
>> XP? Maybe you mean Vista saying it needs to close Windows Explorer
>> over and over. How about UAC nagging about you wanting to delete a
>> desktop shortcut? Media Player constantly crashing? Unable to write
>> files to the root drive? So many "improvements" had to guess which one
>> you mean.[/color]
>
>
>I guess you missed that turn marked, "steeper learning curve ahead", huh?[/color]

Really? When I quickly learned what's new in Vista in oh about a hour,
probably less, and you keep bragging it took you six months. What a
doofus you obvious are.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Pretending Vista works great is way more irresponsible.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>But pretending you actually know how to use Vista is "priceless".
>Frank
>ROTFLMAO[/color]

You remain a horse's rear end. That's your thing Frankie. Just some
ass.

Are you next going to trying to lie your ass off the things I
mentioned aren't true and common problems nearly all users experience?
Just wondering how stupid you really are. I think we already know.

Adam Albright wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:25:10 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>Define work "properly", like you mean the file system is suppose to
>>>crawl with copying files or moving them taking way longer than under
>>>XP? Maybe you mean Vista saying it needs to close Windows Explorer
>>>over and over. How about UAC nagging about you wanting to delete a
>>>desktop shortcut? Media Player constantly crashing? Unable to write
>>>files to the root drive? So many "improvements" had to guess which one
>>>you mean.[/color]
>>
>>
>>I guess you missed that turn marked, "steeper learning curve ahead", huh?[/color]
>
>
> Really? When I quickly learned what's new in Vista in oh about a hour,
> probably less, and you keep bragging it took you six months. What a
> doofus you obvious are.
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>Pretending Vista works great is way more irresponsible.[/color][/color]
>
>[color=green]
>>But pretending you actually know how to use Vista is "priceless".
>>Frank
>>ROTFLMAO[/color]
>
>
> You remain a horse's rear end. That's your thing Frankie. Just some
> ass.
>
> Are you next going to trying to lie your ass off the things I
> mentioned aren't true and common problems nearly all users experience?
> Just wondering how stupid you really are. I think we already know.
>[/color]

Let's put it this way you stupid sack of sh*t. I'm not near as stupid as
you wish I was and you're nowhere near as smart as you think you are.
Loser moron!
Frank

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:5E97EE96-E7A1-45A5-9E77-227C60FFA325@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> "The Old Bloke" <leopard32@XXGmail.com> wrote in message
> news:137rgh058go9293@corp.supernews.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Bob Eyster" <reyster1@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:eFMA43atHHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> On the same note, who to say that any link isn't spoofed and points to a
>>> Trojan/Virus. It's a change you take
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bob Eyster
>>> MS Windows Vista Home Premium
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "KristleBawl" <kristlebawl********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23XhpAmatHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> The point is still valid. Hackers try to get people to download and run
>>>> stuff all the time, sometimes by linking directly to the file.
>>>>
>>>> If you want people to listen to you, you should try to be a little more
>>>> sensitive to security concerns.
>>>>
>>>> A link to a page where the file is described and you have the option to
>>>> download it is ok, but linking directly to a file is a bad idea.
>>>>
>>>> KB
>>>>
>>>> "The Old Bloke" wrote in message
>>>> news:137qcfsekijh84d@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Malke" wrote in message ...
>>>>>> The Old Bloke wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm using Vista Home Premium
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This has fixed nearly all my permissions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hxxp://dazzy.xxx/vista/TakeOwn.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know what you're playing at, but that link (which I munged)
>>>>>> does an automatic direct download of the zip file without any
>>>>>> identification whatsoever. I'm not going to risk opening it, even
>>>>>> though I don't run Windows. You could be an innocent really trying to
>>>>>> help other Vista users or you could be an Evil Spammer/Virus
>>>>>> Spreader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any case, don't do this again. If you really are a good guy and
>>>>>> want to suggest a program that helped you, put a link to the
>>>>>> product's homepage along with a description of what the program does
>>>>>> and how it helped you.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm playing at nothing! This has worked for me., without a problem!
>>>>> I'll do what I want next time. There is a positve history of this
>>>>> from othher forum members.
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked this question a couple of days ago and was told that it was
>>>>> not possible with Visata, and then told to "Get used to it" Well it
>>>>> it is not true. This does work. If you don't trust it, your problem,
>>>>> not mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug[/color]
>> The difference is that I first checked the reliability of the .zip file,
>> and checked with other users that it was all OK on their system. I don't
>> consider I am irresponsible. I knew the risks if I hadn't fully checked
>> it.
>>
>> On my PC it has become a breathe of fresh air. Mine is a stand alone
>> home PC. MS should have disabled all this lock down for "Home" Versions.
>> BTW, Systems people hate this mod. How do I know? I used to be one
>> before I retired.
>>
>> Regards
>>[/color]
>
>
> If you know what the file does then why not tell us what it does rather
> than a generic statement that it fixes everything.
>[/color]
Try it Kerry. I did

I don't have time to do it for you