Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just educating
Vista users for alternatives.

Read this

[url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:20:05 -0700, Homer Schwartz wrote:
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> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
> who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
> won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just educating
> Vista users for alternatives.
>
> Read this
>
> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url][/color]

I actually agree with all the guys points.

1. Flash should be installed by default. I mean the one single mouse click
to accept Firefox's suggestion to install it isn't the end of the world,
but it shouldn't be necessary.

2. I also agree that the automated driver install does need a little bit
more work. It should automatically install the nVidia driver and it also
needs to put a shortcut to the nVidia settings tool that allows a user to
configure the desktop without the need to edit any config files. The
nVidia driver install from nVidia's website actually does this, the
restricted driver manager does not. I consider it a bug.

3. DVDs are an issue in the sense that there is a legal problem with them.
libdvdcss that allows for CSS decryption is a bit of a legal minefield.
You can read more about it here:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss[/url]

4. The Migration tool detects XP fine, though I have no idea what it
actually Migrates. I personally don't even care. Due to how new Vista is,
expecting Feisty to support Vista migration is honestly a bit unrealistic.
Even if Feisty was released a few months after Vista, the specs were set
in stone already much earlier prior to Vista's release.

Now the release in Gutsy on the other hand, coming up later this year, I
*would* expect Vista migration to be available.

Now all of that said, none of them are ground-breaking issues in my mind.
Would take me about 10 minutes, if even that long, to resolve them and
live happily ever after.

I wouldn't be surprised to see issue #1 and #2 disappear from the list in
the new upcoming release.

If *that* is the worst that the person who wrote the review can come up
with...that's not much.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
君のこと忘れたときがないから

"Homer Schwartz" <Homer@visualvictory.com> wrote in
news:ONVTZbqsHHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
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>
> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the
> guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu
> guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is
> just educating Vista users for alternatives.
>
> Read this
>
> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url][/color]

I didn't see anywhere where it said Ubuntu sucks.

Problem 1, Firefox didn't install BY DEFAULT. 'Why should users have to
install it themselves ?' - If you can't d/l and install it yourself, you
have no business using a computer.

2. He had problems with the video drivers.....(sound familiar).....they
were installed, but he couldn't get resolution higher than 1024 x 768.

No attempts were made to fix it.

3. The DVD wouldn't play. No deal breaker there either.

4. The Windows Migration tool didn't detect the Vista install, followed
by......

'I shed no tears about this as I rarely use Windows these days anyway'.

So I guess Jim Lynch is a smart man afterall.

Homer Schwartz wrote:
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>
> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the
> guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu
> guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just
> educating Vista users for alternatives.
>
> Read this
>
> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url]
>
>[/color]

Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow" is
more like it."
Ouch!
Frank

You're right, I read somewhere that it will be called "Crappy Cow 7.8", but
the results will be the same..... Same stench !


"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
news:eXQhhIrsHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Homer Schwartz wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
>> who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
>> won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just
>> educating Vista users for alternatives.
>>
>> Read this
>>
>> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url]
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow" is
> more like it."
> Ouch!
> Frank[/color]

Bill Yanaire wrote:[color=blue]
> You're right, I read somewhere that it will be called "Crappy Cow 7.8", but
> the results will be the same..... Same stench !
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:eXQhhIrsHHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Homer Schwartz wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
>>> who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
>>> won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just
>>> educating Vista users for alternatives.
>>>
>>> Read this
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url]
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow" is
>> more like it."
>> Ouch!
>> Frank[/color]
>
>[/color]
Put on your nose plugs, quit complaining and walk away. ;)

--
norm

Homer Schwartz wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the
> guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu
> guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just
> educating Vista users for alternatives.
>
> Read this
>
> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url]
>
>[/color]

All this review does is prove how lazy the writer is and how little he
knows about Ubuntu and has no credible right to be writing a review.

Alias

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> Homer Schwartz wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the
>> guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu
>> guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is
>> just educating Vista users for alternatives.
>>
>> Read this
>>
>> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url]
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow" is
> more like it."
> Ouch!
> Frank[/color]

It figures you would like that quote. The guy doesn't know what he's
doing. I, a non expert, solved all the problems he had without having to
move anything Windows over to Linux. All I needed is my data to be up an
running.

I am watching a DVD right now. I have flash, java etc. The guy is about
as lame as you, Frankie boy.

Alias

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:20:05 -0700, Homer Schwartz wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the guy
> who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu guy, (I
> won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is just educating
> Vista users for alternatives.
>
> Read this
>
> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url][/color]

Very easy to make that assessment for yourself. It costs absolutely
nothing to try Ubuntu and you can even run it as a Live CD - loads and
runs from the CD with no install and without touching the hard drive. Now
- where do I find the vista Live CD??

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Frank wrote:[color=green]
>> Homer Schwartz wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know the
>>> guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr. Ubuntu
>>> guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says he is
>>> just educating Vista users for alternatives.
>>>
>>> Read this
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url]
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow" is
>> more like it."
>> Ouch!
>> Frank[/color]
>
> It figures you would like that quote. The guy doesn't know what he's
> doing. I, a non expert, solved all the problems he had without having to
> move anything Windows over to Linux. All I needed is my data to be up an
> running.
>
> I am watching a DVD right now. I have flash, java etc. The guy is about
> as lame as you, Frankie boy.
>
> Alias[/color]


I didn't know anything about VISTA when I popped its install disc into
my DVD/CD drive. It took care of business and as it was finishing up, it
presented a couple of simple questions for me to answer. When it
finished, EVERY piece of hardware I have was installed by the OS, except
for my scanner, and a quick Q&A here took care of that, too.

I find no compelling reason to switch to LINUX. Further, most of the
LINUX priests who post are as obnoxious as you are, providing additional
reasons not to switch over.

Have a nice day.

Harry Krause wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:[color=green]
>> Frank wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Homer Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know
>>>> the guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr.
>>>> Ubuntu guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says
>>>> he is just educating Vista users for alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> Read this
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124099,00.asp[/url]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow"
>>> is more like it."
>>> Ouch!
>>> Frank[/color]
>>
>> It figures you would like that quote. The guy doesn't know what he's
>> doing. I, a non expert, solved all the problems he had without having
>> to move anything Windows over to Linux. All I needed is my data to be
>> up an running.
>>
>> I am watching a DVD right now. I have flash, java etc. The guy is
>> about as lame as you, Frankie boy.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
>
> I didn't know anything about VISTA when I popped its install disc into
> my DVD/CD drive. It took care of business and as it was finishing up, it
> presented a couple of simple questions for me to answer. When it
> finished, EVERY piece of hardware I have was installed by the OS, except
> for my scanner, and a quick Q&A here took care of that, too.[/color]

I had the same experience with Ubuntu but I didn't have to pay $800 US
dollars to have it.
[color=blue]
>
> I find no compelling reason to switch to LINUX. Further, most of the
> LINUX priests who post are as obnoxious as you are, providing additional
> reasons not to switch over.[/color]

You were planning to install a Linux user? How would you go about doing
that? Or are you just using the typical MS user tactic of going after
the messenger in a lame attempt to discredit the message?
[color=blue]
>
> Have a nice day.[/color]

Advantages of Linux over Windows:

It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.

No viruses

No malware

No need for an anti virus program

No need for a software firewall

No need for anti malware programs

No activation

No WGA, in all of its flavors

No DRM.

No need to buy new, expensive hardware.

I am having a nice day.

Alias

Alias wrote:
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>
> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>
> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>
> No viruses
>
> No malware
>
> No need for an anti virus program
>
> No need for a software firewall
>
> No need for anti malware programs
>
> No activation
>
> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>
> No DRM.
>
> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>
> I am having a nice day.
>
> Alias[/color]

All lies!
You're a known liar.
No more lies!
Linux loser.
Get a life.
Frank

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>
>> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>
>> No viruses
>>
>> No malware
>>
>> No need for an anti virus program
>>
>> No need for a software firewall
>>
>> No need for anti malware programs
>>
>> No activation
>>
>> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>
>> No DRM.
>>
>> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>
>> I am having a nice day.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> All lies![/color]

A lie.
[color=blue]
> You're a known liar.[/color]

Another lie.
[color=blue]
> No more lies![/color]

Yeah, when will you stop?
[color=blue]
> Linux loser.[/color]

I haven't lost *anything*.
[color=blue]
> Get a life.
> Frank[/color]

I have one, thank you very much and I love living it.

Alias

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>
>> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>
>> No viruses
>>
>> No malware
>>
>> No need for an anti virus program
>>
>> No need for a software firewall
>>
>> No need for anti malware programs
>>
>> No activation
>>
>> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>
>> No DRM.
>>
>> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>
>> I am having a nice day.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> All lies!
> You're a known liar.
> No more lies!
> Linux loser.
> Get a life.
> Frank[/color]

Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but I know
enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented facts.

GO wrote:[color=blue]
> Frank wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Alias wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>>
>>>It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>>>Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>>>Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>>
>>>No viruses
>>>
>>>No malware
>>>
>>>No need for an anti virus program
>>>
>>>No need for a software firewall
>>>
>>>No need for anti malware programs
>>>
>>>No activation
>>>
>>>No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>>
>>>No DRM.
>>>
>>>No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>>
>>>I am having a nice day.
>>>
>>>Alias[/color]
>>
>>All lies!
>>You're a known liar.
>>No more lies!
>>Linux loser.
>>Get a life.
>>Frank[/color]
>
>
> Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but I know
> enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented facts.
>
>[/color]

Then you'll probably be in for a big surprise someday.
Frank