I only get to see textmessages in newsgroups, and i would like to see
photo's and or files...........
Can anyone explain me how to make this happen??
(for the general idea, i am a NoOb)

"Al Pacca" <alpacca@edenet.nl> wrote:
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> I only get to see text messages in newsgroups, and i would like to
> see photo's and or files...........[/color]

Newsgroups are text ONLY unless the word "binaries" is in the name of
the newsgroup, posting pictures or files to text only newsgroups is one
sure way to get your rear end flamed off!

To deal with binary newsgroups you might want to consider getting a
better newsreader, Windows Mail is an improvement over Outlook Express
but still has many limitations and shortcomings one being an inability
to decode yEnc encoded files which are very common in binary news
groups.


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"Al Pacca" <alpacca@edenet.nl> wrote in message
news:7024F3D9-9037-4463-8213-07E614404AD0@microsoft.com...
[color=blue]
>I only get to see textmessages in newsgroups, and i would like to see
>photo's and or files...........
> Can anyone explain me how to make this happen??
> (for the general idea, i am a NoOb)[/color]

Most newsgroups are text based and don't provide the ability to access
binaries so be sure that you are looking in a binary newsgroup. These will
typically have "binaries" in their name. Many news servers don't serve up
binary newsgroups at all. If you still can't see the binary files in a
binary newsgroup then it's an issue with your news reader and not a Vista
issue as such.

Are you sure that you are looking in binary-enabled newsgroups?

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-Q
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[color=blue]
> Newsgroups are text ONLY unless the word "binaries" is in the name of
> the newsgroup, posting pictures or files to text only newsgroups is one
> sure way to get your rear end flamed off![/color]


HAhaha i was not very clear on this .............. i should have mentioned
binaries

thnx for the fast responce

the Microsoft newsgroups are not text only

people can use them to post images of screenshots
or other small files

although I personally prefer to upload images to a web service and post the
link



"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99514C76E4D95xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...[color=blue]
> "Al Pacca" <alpacca@edenet.nl> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I only get to see text messages in newsgroups, and i would like to
>> see photo's and or files...........[/color]
>
> Newsgroups are text ONLY unless the word "binaries" is in the name of
> the newsgroup, posting pictures or files to text only newsgroups is one
> sure way to get your rear end flamed off!
>
> To deal with binary newsgroups you might want to consider getting a
> better newsreader, Windows Mail is an improvement over Outlook Express
> but still has many limitations and shortcomings one being an inability
> to decode yEnc encoded files which are very common in binary news
> groups.
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project: [url]http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html[/url][/color]

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:15:48 +0200, "Al Pacca" <alpacca@edenet.nl>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>I only get to see textmessages in newsgroups, and i would like to see
>photo's and or files...........
>Can anyone explain me how to make this happen??
>(for the general idea, i am a NoOb)[/color]

For starters there is no such thing as a text only or binaries
newsgroup regardless what the name of the newsgroup is. While that was
the original intent years ago, with well in excess of 130,000
different newsgroups now in existence people for various reasons post
binaries to groups that don't have binaries in their name.

The REASON you may not see binaries in so-called misnamed "text"
groups is the news service provider is simply blocking them. That's
the only reason. They do this since binaries take up way more space
then simple little text files and of course most providers are simply
too **** cheap to buy enough storage.

To "see" a image or binary file several things need to happen. First,
nearly all images posted to newsgroups are encoded. Unless you use a
news reader that can automatically DECODE the file you won't see
anything in the way of picture. On top of that many images today are
encoded to yEnc which is a special form of compression to reduce a
file's size. Not all news readers support yEnc, so even if they can
decode a normal image, they may not be able to decode a yEnc format.

Third many images are sent in pieces. Such 1 of 2, 2 of 2. If so,
again if your newsreader doesn't automatically convert them (most can)
then you have to do that step in another application.

Depending on which news reader you're using you may need to tell it
which type of images to decode or which of your applications to use to
display the decoded file as a image. Not all news readers do this
automatically.

Now that you understand the basics. The process should work something
like this:

1. Go to any newsgroup you KNOW has images posted to it.

2. Do whatever you need to retrieve new headers.

3. Find the command that says launch attachment or some similar
command. This will get the body associated with the header
which simply describe the content of the file.

4. In a few seconds time IF your news reader is capable of decoding
the file you picked, typically a jpeg it should by itself launch
a viewer and you should see the image.

When you configure your news reader you need to specify WHERE on your
computer you wish to store any downloaded images. The decoded files
will get placed here and they will be just like any other image of a
similar type.

Cautions:

Some news readers like Agent will decode the image and display it but
will not automatically save it unless configured to. Most news reader
will change the icon to something difference once the image is
decoded. For example Agent creates a yellow icon to indicate a image
has been decoded and shows a green icon if the image as also been
automatically saved to the folder you specified.

It is common for malicious people to post Trojans to graphic
newsgroups, so be sure you have some protection like a anti-virus
scanner that automatically scans downloads.

Best advice if you using any build in Windows crap as your news
reader, dump it. Nearly anything you can try is far better.

If you mean text as opposed to HTML messages, not many people post to
newsgroups using HTML. In Windows Mail you can check to see if the "Read all
messages in plain text" option is enabled.

Go to Tools/Options/Read Tab and chack that option.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Al Pacca" <alpacca@edenet.nl> wrote in message
news:7024F3D9-9037-4463-8213-07E614404AD0@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I only get to see textmessages in newsgroups, and i would like to see
>photo's and or files...........
> Can anyone explain me how to make this happen??
> (for the general idea, i am a NoOb)[/color]

"Tiberius" <Jim@Tib.Kirk> wrote:
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> the Microsoft newsgroups are not text only[/color]

Excuse me, but they *are* text only. Remember, these groups are
carried on other servers as well as Microsoft's servers so general
newsgroup rules apply.
[color=blue]
> people can use them to post images of screenshots or other small
> files[/color]

But they shouldn't and are usually told not to do so.
[color=blue]
> although I personally prefer to upload images to a web service and
> post the link[/color]

That's the correct way.

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> Excuse me, but they *are* text only.

No you are wrong.

This newsgroup as well as all Microsoft ones whether they are on the msnews
server or mirrored another server are not text only if the mirror server
does not strip it. Microsoft has allowed the posting of attachments and html
posts, but they don't advertise it and do not encourage it because some
people cannot read the attachments for various reasons.
Also some news servers are only text based, thus they would strip down the
posts.

You can read more here, but generally this is all over the internet if you
know where to look.

[url]http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/posting.htm[/url]


"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99516FB729B00xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...[color=blue]
> "Tiberius" <Jim@Tib.Kirk> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> the Microsoft newsgroups are not text only[/color]
>
> Excuse me, but they *are* text only. Remember, these groups are
> carried on other servers as well as Microsoft's servers so general
> newsgroup rules apply.
>[color=green]
>> people can use them to post images of screenshots or other small
>> files[/color]
>
> But they shouldn't and are usually told not to do so.
>[color=green]
>> although I personally prefer to upload images to a web service and
>> post the link[/color]
>
> That's the correct way.
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project: [url]http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html[/url][/color]

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:58:55 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Tiberius" <Jim@Tib.Kirk> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> the Microsoft newsgroups are not text only[/color]
>
>Excuse me, but they *are* text only. Remember, these groups are
>carried on other servers as well as Microsoft's servers so general
>newsgroup rules apply.[/color]

Usenet HAS NO RULES. Try again. The one minor exception is in the
handful of moderated newsgroups. This isn't one of those and they
number at best a few dozen out of roughly 150,0000 total newsgroups.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> people can use them to post images of screenshots or other small
>> files[/color]
>
>But they shouldn't and are usually told not to do so.[/color]

They shouldn't because you say so?

Thanks for the laugh.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> although I personally prefer to upload images to a web service and
>> post the link[/color]
>
>That's the correct way.[/color]

If there are no "rules" and I just told you there aren't, there can't
be any right or wrong way, rather several dumbass wannabe net cops
that think they can enforce THEIR rules and attempt to pretend they
are in charge, which I'm guessing gets them off on some senseless ego
trip or something. I think most already know what I think of those
kind of Bozos.

"Tiberius" <Jim@Tib.Kirk> wrote:
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>> Excuse me, but they *are* text only.[/color]
>
> No you are wrong.[/color]

No, I'm correct.
[color=blue]
> [url]http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/posting.htm[/url][/color]

Interesting opinions, he also recommends top posting.

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"XS11E" <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99514C76E4D95xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...[color=blue]
> "Al Pacca" <alpacca@edenet.nl> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I only get to see text messages in newsgroups, and i would like to
>> see photo's and or files...........[/color]
>
> Newsgroups are text ONLY unless the word "binaries" is in the name of
> the newsgroup, posting pictures or files to text only newsgroups is one
> sure way to get your rear end flamed off![/color]


Not entirely true.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

"Al Pacca" <alpacca@edenet.nl> wrote in message
news:7024F3D9-9037-4463-8213-07E614404AD0@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I only get to see textmessages in newsgroups, and i would like to see
>photo's and or files...........
> Can anyone explain me how to make this happen??
> (for the general idea, i am a NoOb)[/color]

I use the Windows Mail news reader and have had no problem viewing JPG and
GIF images posted in the microsoft.public newsgroups. I do know that
Windows Mail does not support yEnc images.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

You don't happen to know if they plan on adding yEnc into windows mail
anytime soon do you?

Jeff


"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:E262A7F2-A463-4F9E-A943-B36C8F416ADA@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> "Al Pacca" <alpacca@edenet.nl> wrote in message
> news:7024F3D9-9037-4463-8213-07E614404AD0@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>I only get to see textmessages in newsgroups, and i would like to see
>>photo's and or files...........
>> Can anyone explain me how to make this happen??
>> (for the general idea, i am a NoOb)[/color]
>
> I use the Windows Mail news reader and have had no problem viewing JPG and
> GIF images posted in the microsoft.public newsgroups. I do know that
> Windows Mail does not support yEnc images.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> Do not send mail.[/color]

top posting is easier for newbie's since they wont know that they have to
scroll to the bottom of the post to read a reply.

Bottom posting is an abuse if not done correctly,
which would involve lots of snipping