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Old 06-14-2007, 03:00 PM
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why won't speech recognition work fully with non-Miccrosoft produc

With Vista speech recognition you can dictate to Microsoft Word, you can
dictate to internet explorer, you can dictate to Outlook but not to Firefox
or Thunderbird. Yet, the speech recognition program can communicate with
these other programs. If you say a link in Firefox it will go to it, and you
can spell out something a letter at a time, so you could go to the location
bar and say, "Spell g o o g l e dot c o m" and that will work. And if you
can do that, then clearly speech recognition is listening and knows how to
interact with the program.

So is this just Microsoft trying to shut out all non-Microsoft products?
Because that would be pretty stupid; making a program that everyone says
compares horribly with Dragon Naturally Speaking even less useful. But
that's the only really sensible explanation that comes to mind.

Is this Microsoft just being super Microsofty?
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Re: why won't speech recognition work fully with non-Miccrosoft produc

Mozilla need to support the right sort of features within Windows, I know
their URL box isn't a proper textbox, and as such the Tablet PC doesn't work
properly.

Perhaps someone more developer-centric could chime in, but it is a Mozilla
issue and it is up to them to sort out.

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"Charles" <Charles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> With Vista speech recognition you can dictate to Microsoft Word, you can
> dictate to internet explorer, you can dictate to Outlook but not to
> Firefox
> or Thunderbird. Yet, the speech recognition program can communicate with
> these other programs. If you say a link in Firefox it will go to it, and
> you
> can spell out something a letter at a time, so you could go to the
> location
> bar and say, "Spell g o o g l e dot c o m" and that will work. And if you
> can do that, then clearly speech recognition is listening and knows how to
> interact with the program.
>
> So is this just Microsoft trying to shut out all non-Microsoft products?
> Because that would be pretty stupid; making a program that everyone says
> compares horribly with Dragon Naturally Speaking even less useful. But
> that's the only really sensible explanation that comes to mind.
>
> Is this Microsoft just being super Microsofty?[/color]

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Old 06-14-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: why won't speech recognition work fully with non-Miccrosoft pr

OpenOffice also doesn't work with speech recognition for text, so it's not
just Mozilla; so far it's every application I've tried that's not made by
Microsoft. So the question becomes, is everyone else using non-standard
stuff or has Microsoft created its own standard and not persuaded others to
follow it (my impression is Mozilla is quite devoted to common standards, so
it would seem odd if they are coding in an improper way that would break
things). And why can't Microsoft support whatever methods are presumably
used by others?

What I wonder is, does Dragon Naturally Speaking work with Firefox,
Microsoft Word and everything else. Because it would make sense that for DNS
to be successful it would need to be compatible with whatever it's customers
are using. Because if they can do it then Microsoft can do it too and chose
not to. on the other hand, if there are the same problems with DNS then I'd
say that lets Microsoft off the hook.

"Paul Smith" wrote:
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> Mozilla need to support the right sort of features within Windows, I know
> their URL box isn't a proper textbox, and as such the Tablet PC doesn't work
> properly.
>
> Perhaps someone more developer-centric could chime in, but it is a Mozilla
> issue and it is up to them to sort out.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> [url]http://www.windowsresource.net/[/url]
>
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> "Charles" <Charles@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EA9C967C-86F2-4304-A519-82D9F469BD9E@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > With Vista speech recognition you can dictate to Microsoft Word, you can
> > dictate to internet explorer, you can dictate to Outlook but not to
> > Firefox
> > or Thunderbird. Yet, the speech recognition program can communicate with
> > these other programs. If you say a link in Firefox it will go to it, and
> > you
> > can spell out something a letter at a time, so you could go to the
> > location
> > bar and say, "Spell g o o g l e dot c o m" and that will work. And if you
> > can do that, then clearly speech recognition is listening and knows how to
> > interact with the program.
> >
> > So is this just Microsoft trying to shut out all non-Microsoft products?
> > Because that would be pretty stupid; making a program that everyone says
> > compares horribly with Dragon Naturally Speaking even less useful. But
> > that's the only really sensible explanation that comes to mind.
> >
> > Is this Microsoft just being super Microsofty?[/color]
>[/color]
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