If I am logged in as administrator why don't programs run as administrator?

I am editing files on my C: drive - html stationary used in Outlook, various
other program defaults, etc.

When I click on a file and "open with notepad" I cannot save the file. I
must save it to another location then move it back into that folder - EVEN
IF I AM THE OWNER OF THAT FOLDER!!!

This is absurd!

Is there any way around this?

Thanks!

/tRL

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"RoaringLambs" <name@somedomain.com> wrote in message
news:#xRAuVWrHHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> If I am logged in as administrator why don't programs run as
> administrator?
>
> I am editing files on my C: drive - html stationary used in Outlook,
> various other program defaults, etc.
>
> When I click on a file and "open with notepad" I cannot save the file. I
> must save it to another location then move it back into that folder - EVEN
> IF I AM THE OWNER OF THAT FOLDER!!!
>
> This is absurd!
>
> Is there any way around this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> /tRL
>[/color]

Only way around this is to turn of UAC, but I don't suggest it. I don't
think I can fully explain UAC in this short a space (and most don't want to
read about it anyway), but it is an important part of the new security in
Windows Vista.

[url]http://winvistainfo.org/security.aspx[/url]

As for the problem with notepad, that only happens in certain protected
folders that need administrative privileges to write to.

Robert Firth
[url]http://www.winvistainfo.org[/url]

"RoaringLambs" <name@somedomain.com> wrote in message
news:%23xRAuVWrHHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> If I am logged in as administrator why don't programs run as
> administrator?
>
> I am editing files on my C: drive - html stationary used in Outlook,
> various other program defaults, etc.
>
> When I click on a file and "open with notepad" I cannot save the file. I
> must save it to another location then move it back into that folder - EVEN
> IF I AM THE OWNER OF THAT FOLDER!!!
>
> This is absurd!
>
> Is there any way around this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> /tRL
>[/color]

"RoaringLambs" <name@somedomain.com> wrote[color=blue]
> If I am logged in as administrator why don't programs run as
> administrator?
>
> I am editing files on my C: drive - html stationary used in Outlook,
> various other program defaults, etc.
>
> When I click on a file and "open with notepad" I cannot save the file. I
> must save it to another location then move it back into that folder - EVEN
> IF I AM THE OWNER OF THAT FOLDER!!!
>
> This is absurd!
>
> Is there any way around this?[/color]

Even when in an account with admin privileges you are still only running as
a Standard user. Activities that admin rights will request elevation. Here
are some links with info about UAC.

Inside Windows Vista User Account Control (Mark Russinovich)
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/UAC/default.aspx[/url]

Jesper Johansson's Blog
[url]http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/03/01/confusion-about-vista-features-what-uac-really-is.aspx[/url]

Why is Windows Vista always asking for my permission: An explanation of UAC
(User Account Control) by
MVP Jimmy Brush
[url]http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx[/url]

Windows Vista User Account Control Step by Step Guide (TechNet)
[url]http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/0d75f774-8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true[/url]

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

I understand UAC, however when I using notepad to edit files, and I have
full control over a directory, it should allow me to save that file. Saving
it somewhere else and moving it is just stupid. Otherwise I have to find a
way to have the open with Notepad be an administrator version of notepad.
also stupid...

Just frustrated. UAC IS making life frustrating.


"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:e2ZhTFZrHHA.4548@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "RoaringLambs" <name@somedomain.com> wrote[color=green]
>> If I am logged in as administrator why don't programs run as
>> administrator?
>>
>> I am editing files on my C: drive - html stationary used in Outlook,
>> various other program defaults, etc.
>>
>> When I click on a file and "open with notepad" I cannot save the file. I
>> must save it to another location then move it back into that folder -
>> EVEN IF I AM THE OWNER OF THAT FOLDER!!!
>>
>> This is absurd!
>>
>> Is there any way around this?[/color]
>
> Even when in an account with admin privileges you are still only running
> as a Standard user. Activities that admin rights will request elevation.
> Here are some links with info about UAC.
>
> Inside Windows Vista User Account Control (Mark Russinovich)
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/UAC/default.aspx[/url]
>
> Jesper Johansson's Blog
> [url]http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/03/01/confusion-about-vista-features-what-uac-really-is.aspx[/url]
>
> Why is Windows Vista always asking for my permission: An explanation of
> UAC (User Account Control) by
> MVP Jimmy Brush
> [url]http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx[/url]
>
> Windows Vista User Account Control Step by Step Guide (TechNet)
> [url]http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/0d75f774-8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true[/url]
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell][/color]

Many of the folders on C are "super protected" - I think virtually
everything in program files, and you simply cannot save over a file no
matter what. I have had to save to the desktop, then drag and drop over the
file to replace it. It is frustrating, I can see protecting the windows
folders but I don't see why I have to jump through hoops just because I am
making a change to an applications folder.

Mark



"RoaringLambs" <name@somedomain.com> wrote in message
news:um3xGfcrHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I understand UAC, however when I using notepad to edit files, and I have
>full control over a directory, it should allow me to save that file.
>Saving it somewhere else and moving it is just stupid. Otherwise I have to
>find a way to have the open with Notepad be an administrator version of
>notepad. also stupid...
>
> Just frustrated. UAC IS making life frustrating.
>[/color]

"RoaringLambs" wrote[color=blue]
>I understand UAC, however when I using notepad to edit files, and I have
>full control over a directory, it should allow me to save that file.
>Saving it somewhere else and moving it is just stupid. Otherwise I have to
>find a way to have the open with Notepad be an administrator version of
>notepad. also stupid...
>
> Just frustrated. UAC IS making life frustrating.[/color]

<snip>

Another thing to try is to launch notepad from an elevated command prompt.
That gives notepad elevated privileges.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]