The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run natively
on windows...

this means that you can replace all the xp or vista shell interface and load
KDE on windows!
(also on MACOSX)

the look and feeling will be linux, yet the applications will be the windows
ones!

This is the only major alternative shell that has been offered for
windows...

and I have seen some of the things they are working on on KDE 4.... since
there has been an alpha release...

interesting...

You could also switch to what interface you want.. much like linux can run
with gnome or KDE

Linux users were afraid of this step... perhaps fearing that it will harm
linux..

on the contrary ... if people start using kde on windows, it will be a snap
for them to switch to linux....

It will be free and it will be an alternative shell.. its good giving people
a choice...


the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway

A user switches to the OS that best runs their chosen programs.. the GUI
doesn't matter other than maybe preferring a different look..

"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
news:#GUN98UoHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run natively
> on windows...
>
> this means that you can replace all the xp or vista shell interface and
> load KDE on windows!
> (also on MACOSX)
>
> the look and feeling will be linux, yet the applications will be the
> windows ones!
>
> This is the only major alternative shell that has been offered for
> windows...
>
> and I have seen some of the things they are working on on KDE 4.... since
> there has been an alpha release...
>
> interesting...
>
> You could also switch to what interface you want.. much like linux can run
> with gnome or KDE
>
> Linux users were afraid of this step... perhaps fearing that it will harm
> linux..
>
> on the contrary ... if people start using kde on windows, it will be a
> snap for them to switch to linux....
>
> It will be free and it will be an alternative shell.. its good giving
> people a choice...
>
>
> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>[/color]

--


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MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

Tiberius wrote:
[color=blue]
> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run natively
> on windows...
>
> this means that you can replace all the xp or vista shell interface and load
> KDE on windows!
> (also on MACOSX)
>
> the look and feeling will be linux, yet the applications will be the windows
> ones!
>
> This is the only major alternative shell that has been offered for
> windows...
>
> and I have seen some of the things they are working on on KDE 4.... since
> there has been an alpha release...
>
> interesting...
>
> You could also switch to what interface you want.. much like linux can run
> with gnome or KDE
>
> Linux users were afraid of this step... perhaps fearing that it will harm
> linux..
>
> on the contrary ... if people start using kde on windows, it will be a snap
> for them to switch to linux....
>
> It will be free and it will be an alternative shell.. its good giving people
> a choice...
>
>
> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>
>[/color]

Only an idiot like you would bother to post such stupid crap!
Get a life.
Frank

A gui matters 100%.

It can accelarate or reduce productivity. KDE has become very good...

Also pelase send an email to microsoft informing them that the gui doesnt
matter since
they want to make 3d glass effects, animated desktops, and flip 3d
effects...

I really dont care about the above.. those are a plus. What is bad about
vista is the stupid start menu
and various other changes they made to the gui like hidding the menus,
removing toolbars and rearranging
commands in a very stupid way. Vista GUI sucks big time.




"Mike Hall MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uviSaIVoHHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>A user switches to the OS that best runs their chosen programs.. the GUI
>doesn't matter other than maybe preferring a different look..
>
> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
> news:#GUN98UoHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run
>> natively on windows...
>>
>> this means that you can replace all the xp or vista shell interface and
>> load KDE on windows!
>> (also on MACOSX)
>>
>> the look and feeling will be linux, yet the applications will be the
>> windows ones!
>>
>> This is the only major alternative shell that has been offered for
>> windows...
>>
>> and I have seen some of the things they are working on on KDE 4.... since
>> there has been an alpha release...
>>
>> interesting...
>>
>> You could also switch to what interface you want.. much like linux can
>> run with gnome or KDE
>>
>> Linux users were afraid of this step... perhaps fearing that it will harm
>> linux..
>>
>> on the contrary ... if people start using kde on windows, it will be a
>> snap for them to switch to linux....
>>
>> It will be free and it will be an alternative shell.. its good giving
>> people a choice...
>>
>>
>> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>>[/color]
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>
>
>
>[/color]

On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:02:04 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Tiberius wrote:
>[color=green]
>> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run natively
>> on windows...
>>
>> this means that you can replace all the xp or vista shell interface and load
>> KDE on windows!
>> (also on MACOSX)
>>
>> the look and feeling will be linux, yet the applications will be the windows
>> ones!
>>
>> This is the only major alternative shell that has been offered for
>> windows...
>>
>> and I have seen some of the things they are working on on KDE 4.... since
>> there has been an alpha release...
>>
>> interesting...
>>
>> You could also switch to what interface you want.. much like linux can run
>> with gnome or KDE
>>
>> Linux users were afraid of this step... perhaps fearing that it will harm
>> linux..
>>
>> on the contrary ... if people start using kde on windows, it will be a snap
>> for them to switch to linux....
>>
>> It will be free and it will be an alternative shell.. its good giving people
>> a choice...
>>
>>
>> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>>
>>[/color]
>
>Only an idiot like you would bother to post such stupid crap!
>Get a life.
>Frank[/color]

Ah Frank, shame your role model is Justin.

Tiberius wrote:
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>>>[/color][/color][/color]

No, you suck big time!
Keep your unwanted, personal opinions about Vista to yourself as only
the linux loser trolls appreciate your crap.
Frank

"Tiberius" wrote:[color=blue]
> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway[/color]

Sorry Tiberius, this sentence killed your whole story !

I have blocked this guy and im not losing any more time on him

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:fo6m53db35dead5dgkn3a3ec8b5l6sgtvv@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:02:04 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Tiberius wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run
>>> natively
>>> on windows...
>>>
>>> this means that you can replace all the xp or vista shell interface and
>>> load
>>> KDE on windows!
>>> (also on MACOSX)
>>>
>>> the look and feeling will be linux, yet the applications will be the
>>> windows
>>> ones!
>>>
>>> This is the only major alternative shell that has been offered for
>>> windows...
>>>
>>> and I have seen some of the things they are working on on KDE 4....
>>> since
>>> there has been an alpha release...
>>>
>>> interesting...
>>>
>>> You could also switch to what interface you want.. much like linux can
>>> run
>>> with gnome or KDE
>>>
>>> Linux users were afraid of this step... perhaps fearing that it will
>>> harm
>>> linux..
>>>
>>> on the contrary ... if people start using kde on windows, it will be a
>>> snap
>>> for them to switch to linux....
>>>
>>> It will be free and it will be an alternative shell.. its good giving
>>> people
>>> a choice...
>>>
>>>
>>> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>Only an idiot like you would bother to post such stupid crap!
>>Get a life.
>>Frank[/color]
>
> Ah Frank, shame your role model is Justin.
>[/color]

On Mon, 28 May 2007 20:41:15 +0300, Tiberius wrote:
[color=blue]
> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run natively
> on windows...[/color]

If anything Xfce. light fast and no bull. Vista will remain a dog
regardless to what GUI you use, is simply too big, too slow and
compatible with nothing.
6 versions?

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The start menu can be set to classic form.. as long as the GUI gets access
to programs, it doesn't really matter.. for the record, I always use classic
start menu in Vista and XP.. the look of a gui is subjective anyway..

"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
news:Ory#jLVoHHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>A gui matters 100%.
>
> It can accelarate or reduce productivity. KDE has become very good...
>
> Also pelase send an email to microsoft informing them that the gui doesnt
> matter since
> they want to make 3d glass effects, animated desktops, and flip 3d
> effects...
>
> I really dont care about the above.. those are a plus. What is bad about
> vista is the stupid start menu
> and various other changes they made to the gui like hidding the menus,
> removing toolbars and rearranging
> commands in a very stupid way. Vista GUI sucks big time.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uviSaIVoHHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>A user switches to the OS that best runs their chosen programs.. the GUI
>>doesn't matter other than maybe preferring a different look..
>>
>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>> news:#GUN98UoHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run
>>> natively on windows...
>>>
>>> this means that you can replace all the xp or vista shell interface and
>>> load KDE on windows!
>>> (also on MACOSX)
>>>
>>> the look and feeling will be linux, yet the applications will be the
>>> windows ones!
>>>
>>> This is the only major alternative shell that has been offered for
>>> windows...
>>>
>>> and I have seen some of the things they are working on on KDE 4....
>>> since there has been an alpha release...
>>>
>>> interesting...
>>>
>>> You could also switch to what interface you want.. much like linux can
>>> run with gnome or KDE
>>>
>>> Linux users were afraid of this step... perhaps fearing that it will
>>> harm linux..
>>>
>>> on the contrary ... if people start using kde on windows, it will be a
>>> snap for them to switch to linux....
>>>
>>> It will be free and it will be an alternative shell.. its good giving
>>> people a choice...
>>>
>>>
>>> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>>>[/color]
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Mike Hall
>> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

--


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MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:11:42 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Tiberius wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>>>>[/color][/color]
>
>No, you suck big time!
>Keep your unwanted, personal opinions about Vista to yourself as only
>the linux loser trolls appreciate your crap.
>Frank[/color]


Lets see if I got this right...

You and other Vista fanboys can bitch and moan all you want and
everybody is suppose to sit on their hands and listen quietly. Anybody
with a different, often far more objective opinion on how Vista works
or doesn't according to you is suppose to shut up and never say
anything.

Geez, Frank, thanks for sharing your narrow minded bigotries!

I like the XP start menu better,

The look is subjective... the mechanism of the menu is not.

It is not compatible to the way the human brain functions.
Also
hidding important menus and making toolbars that cannot be customized,
is a horrible idea because its less functional.

Again this has nothing to do with looks, and is not a matter of "opinion"






"Mike Hall MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eb9cs5VoHHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> The start menu can be set to classic form.. as long as the GUI gets access
> to programs, it doesn't really matter.. for the record, I always use
> classic start menu in Vista and XP.. the look of a gui is subjective
> anyway..
>
> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
> news:Ory#jLVoHHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>A gui matters 100%.
>>
>> It can accelarate or reduce productivity. KDE has become very good...
>>
>> Also pelase send an email to microsoft informing them that the gui doesnt
>> matter since
>> they want to make 3d glass effects, animated desktops, and flip 3d
>> effects...
>>
>> I really dont care about the above.. those are a plus. What is bad about
>> vista is the stupid start menu
>> and various other changes they made to the gui like hidding the menus,
>> removing toolbars and rearranging
>> commands in a very stupid way. Vista GUI sucks big time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Hall MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uviSaIVoHHA.3660@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>A user switches to the OS that best runs their chosen programs.. the GUI
>>>doesn't matter other than maybe preferring a different look..
>>>
>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>> news:#GUN98UoHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run
>>>> natively on windows...
>>>>
>>>> this means that you can replace all the xp or vista shell interface and
>>>> load KDE on windows!
>>>> (also on MACOSX)
>>>>
>>>> the look and feeling will be linux, yet the applications will be the
>>>> windows ones!
>>>>
>>>> This is the only major alternative shell that has been offered for
>>>> windows...
>>>>
>>>> and I have seen some of the things they are working on on KDE 4....
>>>> since there has been an alpha release...
>>>>
>>>> interesting...
>>>>
>>>> You could also switch to what interface you want.. much like linux can
>>>> run with gnome or KDE
>>>>
>>>> Linux users were afraid of this step... perhaps fearing that it will
>>>> harm linux..
>>>>
>>>> on the contrary ... if people start using kde on windows, it will be a
>>>> snap for them to switch to linux....
>>>>
>>>> It will be free and it will be an alternative shell.. its good giving
>>>> people a choice...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Hall
>>> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>
>
>
>[/color]

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> Tiberius wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> the new vista interface- GUI stinks big time anyway
>>>>[/color][/color]
>
> No, you suck big time!
> Keep your unwanted, personal opinions about Vista to yourself as only
> the linux loser trolls appreciate your crap.
> Frank[/color]

Like me! Keep up the great group input here, Tiberius! :)

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"Tiberius" wrote[color=blue]
>I like the XP start menu better,
>
> The look is subjective... the mechanism of the menu is not.
>
> It is not compatible to the way the human brain functions.
> Also
> hidding important menus and making toolbars that cannot be customized,
> is a horrible idea because its less functional.
>
> Again this has nothing to do with looks, and is not a matter of "opinion"[/color]


It certainly is a matter of opinion. I like the start menu in Vista much
better than either XP's or the classic menu. The integrated search function
is great.

--
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"Holz" <none@none.com> wrote[color=blue]
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 20:41:15 +0300, Tiberius wrote:
>[color=green]
>> The new KDE 4.0 scheduled to be released on October 2007 will run
>> natively
>> on windows...[/color]
>
> If anything Xfce. light fast and no bull. Vista will remain a dog
> regardless to what GUI you use, is simply too big, too slow and
> compatible with nothing.
> 6 versions?[/color]


"Compatible with nothing"? What exactly does that mean? Many of the
programs I used in XP run in Vista. All the legacy hardware works as well.

I certainly know not all hardware and software is compatible, but saying
it's "compatible with nothing" is a gross exaggeration.

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