I have an HP Model a1767c
Intel Core2CPU 4300 @ 1.8 GHz 1.80 GHz
2046 MB
Windows Vista Home Premium
I bought Vista with the computer and I already have files I don't want to
delete and can't back up at this point.

I've tried every proposed solution on every site I found in a search and
nothing works.
I've tried System Restore (it failed several times, now I can't even start it)
I've tried opening Event Views (it doesn't open)
I've tried runas /user:[username that has administrative rights] cmd" (I
don't have a username with adminrights.)

Please understand, I am not talking about Internet Explorer. That works fine.

and now tell us.. do you think vista is a quality product? lol

Seriously now.. download the shellexview program.. here
[url]http://www.snapfiles.com/get/shellexview.html[/url]

install it, run it, and disable all the non Microsoft shell extensions

then via trial and error seek out which one is the culprit, by re-enabling
the ones you want..
and seeing if the problem re-occurs

Don't worry all changes are reversible....

Tell me if this solves your problem



"brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:197B5C31-63B4-4BD8-8842-4C6372974BC6@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have an HP Model a1767c
> Intel Core2CPU 4300 @ 1.8 GHz 1.80 GHz
> 2046 MB
> Windows Vista Home Premium
> I bought Vista with the computer and I already have files I don't want to
> delete and can't back up at this point.
>
> I've tried every proposed solution on every site I found in a search and
> nothing works.
> I've tried System Restore (it failed several times, now I can't even start
> it)
> I've tried opening Event Views (it doesn't open)
> I've tried runas /user:[username that has administrative rights] cmd" (I
> don't have a username with adminrights.)
>
> Please understand, I am not talking about Internet Explorer. That works
> fine.
>[/color]

Hey brobkrbob--

We can fix this. BTW did you correctly type eventvwr.msc in the run box?
Also while it can be helpful for errors, MSFT is still guilty of delivering
many error messages in HEX or other language that requires special tools,
and I've begun clicking on the links to explain the errors for a month and
most of them yield "We have no solution at this time" LOL to the 64th-- as
if they are ever going to have the solution to the error in their lifetime.

The admin rights problem is not necessary to solve to fix this, however, it
can easily be solved by right clicking the folder with whatever you want to
run>properties>security tab>edit>add>enter users as obj. name>OK>apply.
Reopen the dialogue box and close it.

But to fixing your problem: Tip Sometimes system restore from the Win RE
environment on the DVD where startup repair is located works when direct SR
won't. Also you have 5 options at F8 including 4 Safe modes with which to
access SR--I say this so you will know how to maximize your chances with
system restore. Below are 10 ways to Fix Vista and this as well as
instuctions on running SFC:

You can run SFC that comes with Vista and several prior OS's but is changed
in Vista under the hood.

I would try running SFC and if you need to and have the Vista DVD (MSFT
bullies most OEM named partners who sell PCs into not shipping it because
they are greedy and lack ethics leaving their end users up a creek without a
paddle when they need many of the tools to fix a no boot Vista). The man
partially responsible for this is Scott Di Valerio the OEM VP at Redmond.
He's the head of all the hard working OEM system builders and his computer
engineering background consists of his accounting practice at MSFT--he done
be accounting da money at the expense of the MSFT customer who pays one to
four grand for a computer (except Dell with Vista).

SFC or System File Checker is a bit like the spare tire in your car or a
backup battery I suppose. In Vista of course, they have changed it somewhat
and come up with a new name--Redmond stands for name it something different
twice a year and now it's part of WRP or Windows Resource Protection. It
scans protected resources including thousands of files, libraries, critical
folders, and essential registry keys, and it replaces those that are
corrupted with intact ones. It fixes a lot of problems in Windows XP, OE,
Windows Vista, Win Mail, IE6, and on Vista or if it is installed on XP, IE7.
It protects these things from changes by any source including
administrators, by keeping a spare of most of them.


How to Run SFC:

Type "cmd" into the Search box above the Start Button>and when cmd comes up
at the top of the Start menu>right click cmd and click "run as Admin" and
when the cmd prompt comes up at the cmd prompt type "sfc /scannow" no quotes
and let it run. This may fix things quite a bit. It replaces corrupt files
with intact ones, if you're not familiar with it.

If no help from SFC, you can try a restore point to before this happened or
you try the steps below if you have a Vista DVD:

Startup Repair will look like this when you put in the Vista DVD:

[url]http://www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png[/url]

You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
also sometimes effective):

[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us[/url]

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
[url]http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm[/url]


I'm going to give you a bunch of links and most of them you won't have to
use, but they are alternative ways to fix Vista.

Right now I want you to put in the DVD and restart. It will automatically
take you to this on your screen:

[url]http://www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png[/url]

That will allow you to go to the Vista setup that has a Repair link on the
lower left corner>click it and then you'll see a gray backgrounded list and
I want you to click Startup Repair from it and follow the directions.

The gray screen after you click the first link in the above pic will look
like this:

[url]http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winvista/images/repair/staruprepair/Image17.gif[/url]

Click Startup Repair, the link at the top and after it scans>click OK and
let it try to repair Vista. It will tell you if it does, and if not

This should work, but if not,then you can follow the alternative ways to fix
this including booting into Safe Mode by tapping the F8 key and using System
Restore.

Directions and links for alternative ways to fix this are below, but I hope
you won't need them:

If you have any questions on getting the Startup Repair done, just post
them.

If you have a Vista DVD try Startup Repair. If that doesn't work, try
SafeMode>System Restore from the Recovery Environment, and you always have
the F8 advanced options ( five of them including Last Known Good
Configuration) and a repair install (with the DVD) as well.

In addition you can use the Bootsect tool to manually repair the boot sector
by accessing the command prompt from the DVD or from F8 and typing at the
prompt:

****Ten Methods to Repair BSOD No Boots or Serious Problems in Windows
Vista****

***Startup Repair and System Restore from the Win Recovery Environment on
the DVD***

You can run Startup Repair by putting your Vista DVD in after theanguage
screen in setup. You can also run System Restore from the same
location.

You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
also sometimes effective):

[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us[/url]

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
[url]http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm[/url]

Note The computer must be configured to start from a CD or from a DVD. For
information about how to configure the computer to start from a CD or from a
DVD, see the information that came with the computer.
2. Restart the computer. To do this, click Start, click the arrow next to
the Lock button, and then click Restart.

This usually means that you enter bios setup by whatever key or keys
(sometimes there is more than one key that will do it for your model--go to
pc manufacturer site) and configure CD to be first in the boot order (this
will allow you to boot from the Vista DVD as well):

See for ref:
Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
[url]http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm[/url]

Boot Order in Bios (Set Boot from HD 1st)
[url]http://www.short-media.com/images/mm/Articles/build_computer/bios/bios03.jpg[/url]

Note If you cannot restart the computer by using this method, use the power
button to turn off the computer. Then, turn the computer back on.

3. Set your language preference, and then click Next.

Note In most cases, the startup repair process starts automatically, and you
do not have the option to select it in the System Recovery Options menu.

4. Click Repair your computer.

5. In the System Recovery Options dialog box, click the operating system
that you want to repair, and then click Next.

6. In the System Recovery Options menu, click Startup Repair to start the
repair process.

7. When the repair process is complete, click Finish.

Additional References for Startup Repair With Screenshots:

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
[url]http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx[/url]

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
[url]http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp[/url]

How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
[url]http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm[/url]

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore
___________________

In addition you can use the Bootsect tool to manually repair the boot sector
by accessing the command prompt from the DVD or from F8 and typing at the
prompt:

Bootsect.exe is available from the \Boot\folder of the Windows Vista DVD and
can be run from within System Recovery or Windows XP on a dual boot.


1. Use Bootsect.exe to restore the Windows Vista MBR and the boot code that
transfers control to the Windows Boot Manager program. To do this, type the
following command at a command prompt: Drive:\boot\Bootsect.exe /NT60 All

In this command, Drive is the drive where the Windows Vista installation
media is located.

Note The boot folder for this step is on the DVD drive.
2. Use Bcdedit.exe to manually create an entry in the BCD Boot.ini file for
the earlier version of the Windows operating system. To do this, type the
following commands at a command prompt.

Note In these commands, Drive is the drive where Windows Vista is
installed. • Drive:\Windows\system32\Bcdedit /create {ntldr} –d "Description
for earlier Windows version"

Note In this command, Description for earlier Windows version can be any
text that you want. For example, Description for earlier Windows version can
be "Windows XP" or "Windows Server 2003".
• Drive:\Windows\system32\Bcdedit /set {ntldr} device partition=x:

Note In this command, x: is the drive letter for the active partition.
• Drive:\Windows\system32\Bcdedit /set {ntldr} path \ntldr
• Drive:\Windows\system32\Bcdedit /displayorder {ntldr} –addlast

3. Restart the computer.
____________________________
******Using the BootRec.exe Tool

Using the System Recovery Tool from the Repair link on the DVD after the
language choice in the lower left hand corner you can select command prompt
and you have the following options:

Bootrec.exe (You can use this tool to recover Vista even when you do not
receive the error message that is the title of the 2nd linked MSKB below):

How to use the Bootrec.exe tool in the Windows Recovery Environment to
troubleshoot and repair startup issues in Windows Vista

[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392/en-us[/url]

Error message when you start Windows Vista: "The Windows Boot Configuration
Data file is missing required information"
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927391/en-us[/url]
_____________________________________________________________
***Using the F8 Environment or a Repair Install from the DVD:***

See for ref:
Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
[url]http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm[/url]

Boot Order in Bios (Set Boot from HD 1st)
[url]http://www.short-media.com/images/mm/Articles/build_computer/bios/bios03.jpg[/url]

Repair Install
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx[/url]

Repair Install (Method 2):
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/315341[/url]

III Taking Full Advantage of the F8 Options (Windows Advanced Options Menu)
by startin gth ePC and tapping F8 once per second:

You could also:

Think: I have 4 different ways to get back my XP at F8 and try 'em in order.
1) Safe Mode 2) Safe Mode with Cmd to Sys Restore which is simply a cmd
prompt in safe mode 3) Safe Mode with Neworking 4) LKG or Last Known Good
Configuration


Try to F8 to the Windows Adv Options Menu>try 3 safe modes there (I don't
use WGA) and Last Known Good>then I go to Win RE in Vista. That gives you a
choice of Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking,and Safe Mode with Command
Prompt.

These methods are outlined in

A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP/and Vista
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/[/url]

How to Use System Restore

[url]http://bertk.mvps.org/[/url]

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore from MSFT:

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx[/url]

Using System Restore

[url]http://tinyurl.com/dvekb[/url]

System Restore for Windows XP

[url]http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm[/url]

How to start the System Restore tool at a command prompt in Windows XP

[url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304449[/url]


Repair Install: (This option has the best chance of succeeding and it
preserves everything in your OS--you do not lose anything with this option):

Make sure the DVD you have is a Vista DVD

Pitfalls: If the DVD came from friend or relative or P2P, you may have
problems. P2P besides being illlegal in many countries including the U.S.
can be corrupt. If CD came from friend or relative, they may have given
you the CD to use but if product key is in use, MSFT is not going to accept
it for activation. Make sure you clean the CD carefully using proper
cleaning fluid and strokes that radiate from center like spokes on a wheel.

Again a repair install has the most likely chance to succeed in XP, (and can
work in Vista) but you need
to have a Vista DVD.

First, in order to do a Repair Install You must boot to the bios setup and
position booting from the "CD" first in the boot order--it probably will not
say DVD but might.

Booting to Bios Setup:

For 85% of PC's and all Dells you can tap the F2 key to reach bios setup.

How To Enable DVD/CD Rom Support (put CD boot first) in bios setup boot
order:

[url]http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/how_do_i_enable_cdrom_support_i.htm[/url]

Screen Shot of bios setup boot order:
[url]http://www.poy.net/proxy/bios2.jpg[/url]

Repair Install Does Not Lose Anything; you may need to try 2-3 times but
that's rare.

How To Repair Install
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341#XSLTH3127121122120121120120[/url]
Screen Shot Repair Install
[url]http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winxppro/installxpcdrepair/indexfullpage.htm[/url]

Good luck,

CH

"brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:197B5C31-63B4-4BD8-8842-4C6372974BC6@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I have an HP Model a1767c
> Intel Core2CPU 4300 @ 1.8 GHz 1.80 GHz
> 2046 MB
> Windows Vista Home Premium
> I bought Vista with the computer and I already have files I don't want to
> delete and can't back up at this point.
>
> I've tried every proposed solution on every site I found in a search and
> nothing works.
> I've tried System Restore (it failed several times, now I can't even start
> it)
> I've tried opening Event Views (it doesn't open)
> I've tried runas /user:[username that has administrative rights] cmd" (I
> don't have a username with adminrights.)
>
> Please understand, I am not talking about Internet Explorer. That works
> fine.
>[/color]

I downloaded ShellExView, but I can't seem to disable anything. When
highlight a file and click Disable on the toolbar, it doesn't change the "No"
in the Disabled column to "Yes." Nothing seems to happen (but the infinite
"WEHSW" loop drones on.

"Tiberius" wrote:
[color=blue]
> and now tell us.. do you think vista is a quality product? lol
>
> Seriously now.. download the shellexview program.. here
> [url]http://www.snapfiles.com/get/shellexview.html[/url]
>
> install it, run it, and disable all the non Microsoft shell extensions
>
> then via trial and error seek out which one is the culprit, by re-enabling
> the ones you want..
> and seeing if the problem re-occurs
>
> Don't worry all changes are reversible....
>
> Tell me if this solves your problem
>
>
>
> "brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:197B5C31-63B4-4BD8-8842-4C6372974BC6@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I have an HP Model a1767c
> > Intel Core2CPU 4300 @ 1.8 GHz 1.80 GHz
> > 2046 MB
> > Windows Vista Home Premium
> > I bought Vista with the computer and I already have files I don't want to
> > delete and can't back up at this point.
> >
> > I've tried every proposed solution on every site I found in a search and
> > nothing works.
> > I've tried System Restore (it failed several times, now I can't even start
> > it)
> > I've tried opening Event Views (it doesn't open)
> > I've tried runas /user:[username that has administrative rights] cmd" (I
> > don't have a username with adminrights.)
> >
> > Please understand, I am not talking about Internet Explorer. That works
> > fine.
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

i right click on the item usualy pink in color,
and select disable...

I have used it with XP and Vista with UAC off though (Im not sure if I had
it off or on, but I usually turn off UAC)

try disabling uac and try again

"brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6389EC1C-CC73-4798-B6B2-245334DB8605@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I downloaded ShellExView, but I can't seem to disable anything. When
> highlight a file and click Disable on the toolbar, it doesn't change the
> "No"
> in the Disabled column to "Yes." Nothing seems to happen (but the
> infinite
> "WEHSW" loop drones on.
>
> "Tiberius" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> and now tell us.. do you think vista is a quality product? lol
>>
>> Seriously now.. download the shellexview program.. here
>> [url]http://www.snapfiles.com/get/shellexview.html[/url]
>>
>> install it, run it, and disable all the non Microsoft shell extensions
>>
>> then via trial and error seek out which one is the culprit, by
>> re-enabling
>> the ones you want..
>> and seeing if the problem re-occurs
>>
>> Don't worry all changes are reversible....
>>
>> Tell me if this solves your problem
>>
>>
>>
>> "brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:197B5C31-63B4-4BD8-8842-4C6372974BC6@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I have an HP Model a1767c
>> > Intel Core2CPU 4300 @ 1.8 GHz 1.80 GHz
>> > 2046 MB
>> > Windows Vista Home Premium
>> > I bought Vista with the computer and I already have files I don't want
>> > to
>> > delete and can't back up at this point.
>> >
>> > I've tried every proposed solution on every site I found in a search
>> > and
>> > nothing works.
>> > I've tried System Restore (it failed several times, now I can't even
>> > start
>> > it)
>> > I've tried opening Event Views (it doesn't open)
>> > I've tried runas /user:[username that has administrative rights] cmd"
>> > (I
>> > don't have a username with adminrights.)
>> >
>> > Please understand, I am not talking about Internet Explorer. That
>> > works
>> > fine.
>> >[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

brokrbob wrote:[color=blue]
> I downloaded ShellExView, but I can't seem to disable anything. When
> highlight a file and click Disable on the toolbar, it doesn't change the "No"
> in the Disabled column to "Yes." Nothing seems to happen (but the infinite
> "WEHSW" loop drones on.[/color]

Forget that crap...run sfc /scannow in an elevated cmd prompt.
Exactly what Chad told you to do.
Always repair Vista using Vista tools whenever possible.
Frank

Using "eventvwr.msc" in Task Manager (I only have about 3 seconds in the
Start>Run box before the "WEHSW" loop wipes it out and I can't type that
fast! So I'm in Event Viewer but I don't know what I'm looking for. I am
not good at this. Most of what you wrote (and btw, thanks so much for
helping me) is pure Greek.

The biggest problem is that I don't have a Vista disc. I also don't quite
understand what you mean when you say "by right clicking the folder with
whatever you want to
run>properties>security tab>edit>add>enter users as obj. name>OK>apply.
Reopen the dialogue box and close it." Understand that I can't get into the
Start Menu for more than 3 seconds before the loop closes it.

"Chad Harris" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hey brobkrbob--
>
> We can fix this. BTW did you correctly type eventvwr.msc in the run box?
> Also while it can be helpful for errors, MSFT is still guilty of delivering
> many error messages in HEX or other language that requires special tools,
> and I've begun clicking on the links to explain the errors for a month and
> most of them yield "We have no solution at this time" LOL to the 64th-- as
> if they are ever going to have the solution to the error in their lifetime.
>
> The admin rights problem is not necessary to solve to fix this, however, it
> can easily be solved by right clicking the folder with whatever you want to
> run>properties>security tab>edit>add>enter users as obj. name>OK>apply.
> Reopen the dialogue box and close it.
>
> But to fixing your problem: Tip Sometimes system restore from the Win RE
> environment on the DVD where startup repair is located works when direct SR
> won't. Also you have 5 options at F8 including 4 Safe modes with which to
> access SR--I say this so you will know how to maximize your chances with
> system restore. Below are 10 ways to Fix Vista and this as well as
> instuctions on running SFC:
>
> You can run SFC that comes with Vista and several prior OS's but is changed
> in Vista under the hood.
>
> I would try running SFC and if you need to and have the Vista DVD (MSFT
> bullies most OEM named partners who sell PCs into not shipping it because
> they are greedy and lack ethics leaving their end users up a creek without a
> paddle when they need many of the tools to fix a no boot Vista). The man
> partially responsible for this is Scott Di Valerio the OEM VP at Redmond.
> He's the head of all the hard working OEM system builders and his computer
> engineering background consists of his accounting practice at MSFT--he done
> be accounting da money at the expense of the MSFT customer who pays one to
> four grand for a computer (except Dell with Vista).
>
> SFC or System File Checker is a bit like the spare tire in your car or a
> backup battery I suppose. In Vista of course, they have changed it somewhat
> and come up with a new name--Redmond stands for name it something different
> twice a year and now it's part of WRP or Windows Resource Protection. It
> scans protected resources including thousands of files, libraries, critical
> folders, and essential registry keys, and it replaces those that are
> corrupted with intact ones. It fixes a lot of problems in Windows XP, OE,
> Windows Vista, Win Mail, IE6, and on Vista or if it is installed on XP, IE7.
> It protects these things from changes by any source including
> administrators, by keeping a spare of most of them.
>
>
> How to Run SFC:
>
> Type "cmd" into the Search box above the Start Button>and when cmd comes up
> at the top of the Start menu>right click cmd and click "run as Admin" and
> when the cmd prompt comes up at the cmd prompt type "sfc /scannow" no quotes
> and let it run. This may fix things quite a bit. It replaces corrupt files
> with intact ones, if you're not familiar with it.
>
> If no help from SFC, you can try a restore point to before this happened or
> you try the steps below if you have a Vista DVD:
>
> Startup Repair will look like this when you put in the Vista DVD:
>
> [url]http://www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png[/url]
>
> You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
> also sometimes effective):
>
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us[/url]
>
> How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
> [url]http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm[/url]
>
>
> I'm going to give you a bunch of links and most of them you won't have to
> use, but they are alternative ways to fix Vista.
>
> Right now I want you to put in the DVD and restart. It will automatically
> take you to this on your screen:
>
> [url]http://www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png[/url]
>
> That will allow you to go to the Vista setup that has a Repair link on the
> lower left corner>click it and then you'll see a gray backgrounded list and
> I want you to click Startup Repair from it and follow the directions.
>
> The gray screen after you click the first link in the above pic will look
> like this:
>
> [url]http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winvista/images/repair/staruprepair/Image17.gif[/url]
>
> Click Startup Repair, the link at the top and after it scans>click OK and
> let it try to repair Vista. It will tell you if it does, and if not
>
> This should work, but if not,then you can follow the alternative ways to fix
> this including booting into Safe Mode by tapping the F8 key and using System
> Restore.
>
> Directions and links for alternative ways to fix this are below, but I hope
> you won't need them:
>
> If you have any questions on getting the Startup Repair done, just post
> them.
>
> If you have a Vista DVD try Startup Repair. If that doesn't work, try
> SafeMode>System Restore from the Recovery Environment, and you always have
> the F8 advanced options ( five of them including Last Known Good
> Configuration) and a repair install (with the DVD) as well.
>
> In addition you can use the Bootsect tool to manually repair the boot sector
> by accessing the command prompt from the DVD or from F8 and typing at the
> prompt:
>
> ****Ten Methods to Repair BSOD No Boots or Serious Problems in Windows
> Vista****
>
> ***Startup Repair and System Restore from the Win Recovery Environment on
> the DVD***
>
> You can run Startup Repair by putting your Vista DVD in after theanguage
> screen in setup. You can also run System Restore from the same
> location.
>
> You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
> also sometimes effective):
>
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us[/url]
>
> How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
> [url]http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm[/url]
>
> Note The computer must be configured to start from a CD or from a DVD. For
> information about how to configure the computer to start from a CD or from a
> DVD, see the information that came with the computer.
> 2. Restart the computer. To do this, click Start, click the arrow next to
> the Lock button, and then click Restart.
>
> This usually means that you enter bios setup by whatever key or keys
> (sometimes there is more than one key that will do it for your model--go to
> pc manufacturer site) and configure CD to be first in the boot order (this
> will allow you to boot from the Vista DVD as well):
>
> See for ref:
> Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
> [url]http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm[/url]
>
> Boot Order in Bios (Set Boot from HD 1st)
> [url]http://www.short-media.com/images/mm/Articles/build_computer/bios/bios03.jpg[/url]
>
> Note If you cannot restart the computer by using this method, use the power
> button to turn off the computer. Then, turn the computer back on.
>
> 3. Set your language preference, and then click Next.
>
> Note In most cases, the startup repair process starts automatically, and you
> do not have the option to select it in the System Recovery Options menu.
>
> 4. Click Repair your computer.
>
> 5. In the System Recovery Options dialog box, click the operating system
> that you want to repair, and then click Next.
>
> 6. In the System Recovery Options menu, click Startup Repair to start the
> repair process.
>
> 7. When the repair process is complete, click Finish.
>
> Additional References for Startup Repair With Screenshots:
>
> How to Use Startup Repair:
>
> ***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***
>
> 1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)
>
> 2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
> lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***
>
> Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
> [url]http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx[/url]
>
> Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
> [url]http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp[/url]
>
> How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
> [url]http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm[/url]
>
> 3) Select your OS for repair.
>
> 4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
> theWin RE feature:
>
> You'll have a choice there of using:
>
> 1) Startup Repair
> 2) System Restore
> 3) Complete PC Restore
> ___________________
>
> In addition you can use the Bootsect tool to manually repair the boot sector
> by accessing the command prompt from the DVD or from F8 and typing at the
> prompt:
>
> Bootsect.exe is available from the \Boot\folder of the Windows Vista DVD and
> can be run from within System Recovery or Windows XP on a dual boot.
>
>
> 1. Use Bootsect.exe to restore the Windows Vista MBR and the boot code that
> transfers control to the Windows Boot Manager program. To do this, type the
> following command at a command prompt: Drive:\boot\Bootsect.exe /NT60 All
>
> In this command, Drive is the drive where the Windows Vista installation
> media is located.
>
> Note The boot folder for this step is on the DVD drive.
> 2. Use Bcdedit.exe to manually create an entry in the BCD Boot.ini file for
> the earlier version of the Windows operating system. To do this, type the
> following commands at a command prompt.
>
> Note In these commands, Drive is the drive where Windows Vista is
> installed. • Drive:\Windows\system32\Bcdedit /create {ntldr} –d "Description
> for earlier Windows version"
>
> Note In this command, Description for earlier Windows version can be any
> text that you want. For example, Description for earlier Windows version can
> be "Windows XP" or "Windows Server 2003".
> • Drive:\Windows\system32\Bcdedit /set {ntldr} device partition=x:
>
> Note In this command, x: is the drive letter for the active partition.
> • Drive:\Windows\system32\Bcdedit /set {ntldr} path \ntldr
> • Drive:\Windows\system32\Bcdedit /displayorder {ntldr} –addlast
>
> 3. Restart the computer.
> ____________________________
> ******Using the BootRec.exe Tool
>
> Using the System Recovery Tool from the Repair link on the DVD after the
> language choice in the lower left hand corner you can select command prompt
> and you have the following options:
>
> Bootrec.exe (You can use this tool to recover Vista even when you do not
> receive the error message that is the title of the 2nd linked MSKB below):
>
> How to use the Bootrec.exe tool in the Windows Recovery Environment to
> troubleshoot and repair startup issues in Windows Vista
>
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392/en-us[/url]
>
> Error message when you start Windows Vista: "The Windows Boot Configuration
> Data file is missing required information"
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927391/en-us[/url]
> _____________________________________________________________
> ***Using the F8 Environment or a Repair Install from the DVD:***
>
> See for ref:
> Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
> [url]http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm[/url]
>
> Boot Order in Bios (Set Boot from HD 1st)
> [url]http://www.short-media.com/images/mm/Articles/build_computer/bios/bios03.jpg[/url]
>
> Repair Install
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx[/url]
>
> Repair Install (Method 2):
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/315341[/url]
>
> III Taking Full Advantage of the F8 Options (Windows Advanced Options Menu)
> by startin gth ePC and tapping F8 once per second:
>
> You could also:
>
> Think: I have 4 different ways to get back my XP at F8 and try 'em in order.
> 1) Safe Mode 2) Safe Mode with Cmd to Sys Restore which is simply a cmd
> prompt in safe mode 3) Safe Mode with Neworking 4) LKG or Last Known Good
> Configuration
>
>
> Try to F8 to the Windows Adv Options Menu>try 3 safe modes there (I don't
> use WGA) and Last Known Good>then I go to Win RE in Vista. That gives you a
> choice of Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking,and Safe Mode with Command
> Prompt.
>
> These methods are outlined in
>
> A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP/and Vista
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/[/url]
>
> How to Use System Restore
>
> [url]http://bertk.mvps.org/[/url]
>
> Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore from MSFT:
>
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx[/url]
>
> Using System Restore
>
> [url]http://tinyurl.com/dvekb[/url]
>
> System Restore for Windows XP
>
> [url]http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm[/url]
>[/color]

Please forgive me, but what is UAC and how do I turn it off?

"Tiberius" wrote:
[color=blue]
> i right click on the item usualy pink in color,
> and select disable...
>
> I have used it with XP and Vista with UAC off though (Im not sure if I had
> it off or on, but I usually turn off UAC)
>
> try disabling uac and try again
>
> "brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6389EC1C-CC73-4798-B6B2-245334DB8605@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I downloaded ShellExView, but I can't seem to disable anything. When
> > highlight a file and click Disable on the toolbar, it doesn't change the
> > "No"
> > in the Disabled column to "Yes." Nothing seems to happen (but the
> > infinite
> > "WEHSW" loop drones on.
> >
> > "Tiberius" wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> and now tell us.. do you think vista is a quality product? lol
> >>
> >> Seriously now.. download the shellexview program.. here
> >> [url]http://www.snapfiles.com/get/shellexview.html[/url]
> >>
> >> install it, run it, and disable all the non Microsoft shell extensions
> >>
> >> then via trial and error seek out which one is the culprit, by
> >> re-enabling
> >> the ones you want..
> >> and seeing if the problem re-occurs
> >>
> >> Don't worry all changes are reversible....
> >>
> >> Tell me if this solves your problem
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:197B5C31-63B4-4BD8-8842-4C6372974BC6@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have an HP Model a1767c
> >> > Intel Core2CPU 4300 @ 1.8 GHz 1.80 GHz
> >> > 2046 MB
> >> > Windows Vista Home Premium
> >> > I bought Vista with the computer and I already have files I don't want
> >> > to
> >> > delete and can't back up at this point.
> >> >
> >> > I've tried every proposed solution on every site I found in a search
> >> > and
> >> > nothing works.
> >> > I've tried System Restore (it failed several times, now I can't even
> >> > start
> >> > it)
> >> > I've tried opening Event Views (it doesn't open)
> >> > I've tried runas /user:[username that has administrative rights] cmd"
> >> > (I
> >> > don't have a username with adminrights.)
> >> >
> >> > Please understand, I am not talking about Internet Explorer. That
> >> > works
> >> > fine.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>[/color][/color]
>
>
>[/color]

How do I elevate the CMD prompt?

"Frank" wrote:
[color=blue]
> brokrbob wrote:[color=green]
> > I downloaded ShellExView, but I can't seem to disable anything. When
> > highlight a file and click Disable on the toolbar, it doesn't change the "No"
> > in the Disabled column to "Yes." Nothing seems to happen (but the infinite
> > "WEHSW" loop drones on.[/color]
>
> Forget that crap...run sfc /scannow in an elevated cmd prompt.
> Exactly what Chad told you to do.
> Always repair Vista using Vista tools whenever possible.
> Frank
>[/color]

an easy way is to use this small free program

[url]http://www.tweak-uac.com/[/url]


after you are finished you should turn UAC on again

What is UAC?

See here [url]http://www.jsifaq.com/SF/Tips/Tip.aspx?id=11093[/url]
and here for more details: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control[/url]
"brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1B06DDE1-B5C5-4F4E-8B4A-F8E3D6716EFD@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Please forgive me, but what is UAC and how do I turn it off?
>
> "Tiberius" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> i right click on the item usualy pink in color,
>> and select disable...
>>
>> I have used it with XP and Vista with UAC off though (Im not sure if I
>> had
>> it off or on, but I usually turn off UAC)
>>
>> try disabling uac and try again
>>
>> "brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6389EC1C-CC73-4798-B6B2-245334DB8605@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I downloaded ShellExView, but I can't seem to disable anything. When
>> > highlight a file and click Disable on the toolbar, it doesn't change
>> > the
>> > "No"
>> > in the Disabled column to "Yes." Nothing seems to happen (but the
>> > infinite
>> > "WEHSW" loop drones on.
>> >
>> > "Tiberius" wrote:
>> >
>> >> and now tell us.. do you think vista is a quality product? lol
>> >>
>> >> Seriously now.. download the shellexview program.. here
>> >> [url]http://www.snapfiles.com/get/shellexview.html[/url]
>> >>
>> >> install it, run it, and disable all the non Microsoft shell extensions
>> >>
>> >> then via trial and error seek out which one is the culprit, by
>> >> re-enabling
>> >> the ones you want..
>> >> and seeing if the problem re-occurs
>> >>
>> >> Don't worry all changes are reversible....
>> >>
>> >> Tell me if this solves your problem
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "brokrbob" <brokrbob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:197B5C31-63B4-4BD8-8842-4C6372974BC6@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have an HP Model a1767c
>> >> > Intel Core2CPU 4300 @ 1.8 GHz 1.80 GHz
>> >> > 2046 MB
>> >> > Windows Vista Home Premium
>> >> > I bought Vista with the computer and I already have files I don't
>> >> > want
>> >> > to
>> >> > delete and can't back up at this point.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've tried every proposed solution on every site I found in a search
>> >> > and
>> >> > nothing works.
>> >> > I've tried System Restore (it failed several times, now I can't even
>> >> > start
>> >> > it)
>> >> > I've tried opening Event Views (it doesn't open)
>> >> > I've tried runas /user:[username that has administrative rights]
>> >> > cmd"
>> >> > (I
>> >> > don't have a username with adminrights.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Please understand, I am not talking about Internet Explorer. That
>> >> > works
>> >> > fine.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>[/color]
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

brokrbob wrote:[color=blue]
> How do I elevate the CMD prompt?
>
> "Frank" wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>brokrbob wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I downloaded ShellExView, but I can't seem to disable anything. When
>>>highlight a file and click Disable on the toolbar, it doesn't change the "No"
>>>in the Disabled column to "Yes." Nothing seems to happen (but the infinite
>>>"WEHSW" loop drones on.[/color]
>>
>>Forget that crap...run sfc /scannow in an elevated cmd prompt.
>>Exactly what Chad told you to do.
>>Always repair Vista using Vista tools whenever possible.
>>Frank
>>[/color][/color]

Right click on Command Prompt in accessories and select...run as
administrator.
Frank

* Frank:[color=blue]
> brokrbob wrote:[color=green]
>> I downloaded ShellExView, but I can't seem to disable anything. When
>> highlight a file and click Disable on the toolbar, it doesn't change the "No"
>> in the Disabled column to "Yes." Nothing seems to happen (but the infinite
>> "WEHSW" loop drones on.[/color]
>
> Forget that crap...run sfc /scannow in an elevated cmd prompt.
> Exactly what Chad told you to do.
> Always repair Vista using Vista tools whenever possible.
> Frank[/color]

Using sfc is hardly *the* answer. It may help..... it may not. I have, yet,
to see sfc solve a single problem on two different machines I have used
it on. The response has always been "found some problems, fixed some,
couldn't fix the others.. go read some log". True to its word, it didn't fix
anything on those two computers. Used a saved image, now that did work.

If the user has exhausted most options, I would suggest that he
put in the Vista install disc and do an upgrade from the desktop.
Or, just do a clean reinstall.


-Michael