What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is Live
OneCare causing?

"Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is Live
> OneCare causing?[/color]

UAC need to be enabled.

--
Jon

But I don't want to be prompted whenever I open an utility or install a
program.


"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is Live
>> OneCare causing?[/color]
>
> UAC need to be enabled.
>
> --
> Jon
>
>[/color]

Elliot, it is the way things are.. I also run without IE protected mode..

"Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
news:umd#wHSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> But I don't want to be prompted whenever I open an utility or install a
> program.
>
>
> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>> Live OneCare causing?[/color]
>>
>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>>
>>[/color][/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

Although UAC is enabled now, nothing changed. What's going on?

"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is Live
>> OneCare causing?[/color]
>
> UAC need to be enabled.
>
> --
> Jon
>
>[/color]

"Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
news:umd%23wHSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> But I don't want to be prompted whenever I open an utility or install a
> program.
>
>
> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>> Live OneCare causing?[/color]
>>
>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>>
>>[/color][/color]


Ok, well there are other ways of configuring UAC to leave it on, but keep
the protected mode.

If you change this registry key to 0, (with UAC on) then you won't see the
prompts, but you'll at least benefit from protected mode...

Start > Regedit

ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin (assuming you're using an administrator
level account)

at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System


Personally I wouldn't surf the net with UAC / Protected mode turned off.

--
Jon

However, I need IE Protected Mode more than UAC.

"Mike Hall MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eA0wvKSoHHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Elliot, it is the way things are.. I also run without IE protected mode..
>
> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:umd#wHSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> But I don't want to be prompted whenever I open an utility or install a
>> program.
>>
>>
>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...
>>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>>> Live OneCare causing?
>>>
>>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>
>
>
>[/color]

You'd need to reboot after making the change, and also if the site is in
your Trusted Zones it would be off too

--
Jon


"Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
news:908D115A-4D5B-4A65-8058-4337A629AD4C@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Although UAC is enabled now, nothing changed. What's going on?
>
> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>> Live OneCare causing?[/color]
>>
>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>>
>>[/color][/color]

It remains the same after rebooting my system.
I also looked at the settings of UAC using Group Policy snap-in, found that
all are set to the default choice.


"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
news:OESKobSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> You'd need to reboot after making the change, and also if the site is in
> your Trusted Zones it would be off too
>
> --
> Jon
>
>
> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:908D115A-4D5B-4A65-8058-4337A629AD4C@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Although UAC is enabled now, nothing changed. What's going on?
>>
>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...
>>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>>> Live OneCare causing?
>>>
>>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

This is the main problem I have with UAC- it is
an all or nothing package. That's unacceptable,
and not particularly clever or well thought out.

I don't see why there can not be a wizard type setup
for users when they first install the OS or boot
it up for the very first time. The wizard would briefly,
in average Joe language, explain the importance of UAC,
and then have several options to tweak. Each "tweak"
having a Microsoft recommended setting and some type of
other options. Like- turn a particular prompt off, turn
off prompts just for that action or program, pause prompts.
Have UAC off for main OS operations, but active when IE is
opened. I mean there are numerous ways this could refined.
With the all or nothing approach, a lot of users are turning
it off. Letting folks use UAC, even in some type of reduced
strength/warning level, is better than not using UAC at all.

Oh, while Windows Server 2008 doesn't do those things, it
does have a *much* better "less annoying factor" UAC.... well,
Windows Server 2008 is just much better that Vista- period.
It really is quite shocking.

Speaking of better.... I've been beta testing Windows Home Server,
and as some of you may know, I've been pleased with how well it works.
Home Server is really Windows Server 2003 SBS with some more user
friendly components added to it. Counting Home Server, I have 5
machines networked together, and I am pleased at the overall performance.
Although, it is clearly obvious which computers perform worse when networked-
Vista, of course. Most of the time, I have three Vista machines and one XP
machine attached to the network. Two of those Vista machines still have XP
on another partition, so I boot back those back to XP at times. XP's networking
speed/performance really overwhelms Vista... at times it's not even close,
and Vista is supposed to have this new and improved, much ballyhooed, "new
generation" network stack. Microsoft and the developers of that TCP/IP
stack should be embarrassed and apologize. Having IPv6 on by default
when 99.9% users have no need for it now or anytime soon, well, it's
just ignorant... actually, it's arrogant tech head bull*hit.

Anyway, when playing around with Home Server, which has been tweaked to make
it easy for users to change GUI settings than the regular Server line,
you are reminded of what a great OS Windows Server 2003 is. Even when
used as a workstation/server combo... which, I have a feeling some users
will do. Microsoft hasn't stated definitely whether they are going to sell
Home Server as a separate product or just as part of some server appliance,
but it looks like they will make it available to end users. Depending on
the price, I believe Microsoft will have a hit with this.
There are a lot of users out there who already use a Windows Server OS as
a workstation, expensive choice- but, to some, well worth it.
Of course, if some folks use Home Server on their network and also use
it as a workstation, it's not like their home network is serving an army
of machines, and it can surely handle both roles at the same time. From
what I've seen, I know that it can.

Okay, that's my morning tangent.

Take care, Mike.


-Michael


* Mike Hall MVP:[color=blue]
> Elliot, it is the way things are.. I also run without IE protected mode..
>
> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:umd#wHSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> But I don't want to be prompted whenever I open an utility or install a
>> program.
>>
>>
>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...
>>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>>> Live OneCare causing?
>>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

Try resetting Internet Explorer to its default settings

Alt key (within IE) > Tools > Internet Options > Advanced (tab)> Reset

--
Jon


"Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8227ECF0-75E9-432B-9289-F5FC88545317@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> It remains the same after rebooting my system.
> I also looked at the settings of UAC using Group Policy snap-in, found
> that all are set to the default choice.
>
>
> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:OESKobSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> You'd need to reboot after making the change, and also if the site is in
>> your Trusted Zones it would be off too
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:908D115A-4D5B-4A65-8058-4337A629AD4C@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Although UAC is enabled now, nothing changed. What's going on?
>>>
>>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...
>>>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>>>> Live OneCare causing?
>>>>
>>>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

Any alternative? I won't reset my choices.


"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
news:esHtY4SoHHA.4124@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Try resetting Internet Explorer to its default settings
>
> Alt key (within IE) > Tools > Internet Options > Advanced (tab)> Reset
>
> --
> Jon
>
>
> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:8227ECF0-75E9-432B-9289-F5FC88545317@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> It remains the same after rebooting my system.
>> I also looked at the settings of UAC using Group Policy snap-in, found
>> that all are set to the default choice.
>>
>>
>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>> news:OESKobSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> You'd need to reboot after making the change, and also if the site is in
>>> your Trusted Zones it would be off too
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:908D115A-4D5B-4A65-8058-4337A629AD4C@microsoft.com...
>>>> Although UAC is enabled now, nothing changed. What's going on?
>>>>
>>>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>>>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>>>>> Live OneCare causing?
>>>>>
>>>>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

Michael

I agree. There should be a way of keeping IE protected mode without having
UAC enabled. Unfortunately there isn't :-(. C'est la guerre, je pense..


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:u8iYc1SoHHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> This is the main problem I have with UAC- it is
> an all or nothing package. That's unacceptable,
> and not particularly clever or well thought out.
>
> I don't see why there can not be a wizard type setup
> for users when they first install the OS or boot
> it up for the very first time. The wizard would briefly,
> in average Joe language, explain the importance of UAC,
> and then have several options to tweak. Each "tweak"
> having a Microsoft recommended setting and some type of
> other options. Like- turn a particular prompt off, turn
> off prompts just for that action or program, pause prompts.
> Have UAC off for main OS operations, but active when IE is
> opened. I mean there are numerous ways this could refined.
> With the all or nothing approach, a lot of users are turning
> it off. Letting folks use UAC, even in some type of reduced
> strength/warning level, is better than not using UAC at all.
>
> Oh, while Windows Server 2008 doesn't do those things, it
> does have a *much* better "less annoying factor" UAC.... well,
> Windows Server 2008 is just much better that Vista- period.
> It really is quite shocking.
>
> Speaking of better.... I've been beta testing Windows Home Server,
> and as some of you may know, I've been pleased with how well it works.
> Home Server is really Windows Server 2003 SBS with some more user
> friendly components added to it. Counting Home Server, I have 5
> machines networked together, and I am pleased at the overall performance.
> Although, it is clearly obvious which computers perform worse when
> networked-
> Vista, of course. Most of the time, I have three Vista machines and one
> XP
> machine attached to the network. Two of those Vista machines still have XP
> on another partition, so I boot back those back to XP at times. XP's
> networking
> speed/performance really overwhelms Vista... at times it's not even close,
> and Vista is supposed to have this new and improved, much ballyhooed, "new
> generation" network stack. Microsoft and the developers of that TCP/IP
> stack should be embarrassed and apologize. Having IPv6 on by default
> when 99.9% users have no need for it now or anytime soon, well, it's
> just ignorant... actually, it's arrogant tech head bull*hit.
>
> Anyway, when playing around with Home Server, which has been tweaked to
> make
> it easy for users to change GUI settings than the regular Server line,
> you are reminded of what a great OS Windows Server 2003 is. Even when
> used as a workstation/server combo... which, I have a feeling some users
> will do. Microsoft hasn't stated definitely whether they are going to
> sell
> Home Server as a separate product or just as part of some server
> appliance,
> but it looks like they will make it available to end users. Depending on
> the price, I believe Microsoft will have a hit with this.
> There are a lot of users out there who already use a Windows Server OS as
> a workstation, expensive choice- but, to some, well worth it.
> Of course, if some folks use Home Server on their network and also use
> it as a workstation, it's not like their home network is serving an army
> of machines, and it can surely handle both roles at the same time. From
> what I've seen, I know that it can.
>
> Okay, that's my morning tangent.
>
> Take care, Mike.
>
>
> -Michael
>
>
> * Mike Hall MVP:[color=green]
>> Elliot, it is the way things are.. I also run without IE protected mode..
>>
>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:umd#wHSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> But I don't want to be prompted whenever I open an utility or install a
>>> program.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...
>>>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>>>> Live OneCare causing?
>>>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

Probably, but that's my suggestion.

--
Jon


"Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3B635E9D-5F06-4594-85FF-8577E0EECED1@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Any alternative? I won't reset my choices.
>
>
> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
> news:esHtY4SoHHA.4124@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Try resetting Internet Explorer to its default settings
>>
>> Alt key (within IE) > Tools > Internet Options > Advanced (tab)> Reset
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:8227ECF0-75E9-432B-9289-F5FC88545317@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> It remains the same after rebooting my system.
>>> I also looked at the settings of UAC using Group Policy snap-in, found
>>> that all are set to the default choice.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OESKobSoHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> You'd need to reboot after making the change, and also if the site is
>>>> in your Trusted Zones it would be off too
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:908D115A-4D5B-4A65-8058-4337A629AD4C@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Although UAC is enabled now, nothing changed. What's going on?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eTMQ49RoHHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Elliot" <elliot_barclay********.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:D6A19B28-20EA-42F1-AF9F-9D5A3BB2A56D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> What's causing the Protected Mode of IE to be Off?
>>>>>>> The option "Enable Protected Mode" under Security tab is checked. Is
>>>>>>> Live OneCare causing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UAC need to be enabled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]