I've been reading several books on Vista and in one of them it indicated that
FAT and FAT32 were supported in Vista but NTFS was preferred. Later in the
same book it says that Vista only supports NTFS...just wanted to get some
insight into this.

Thanks

Vista supports fat32/16 but can only be installed on an NTFS partition.

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"Tami N" <TamiN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:83275DAD-D0D3-4E61-ADE2-15B39B8249F9@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I've been reading several books on Vista and in one of them it indicated
> that
> FAT and FAT32 were supported in Vista but NTFS was preferred. Later in
> the
> same book it says that Vista only supports NTFS...just wanted to get some
> insight into this.
>
> Thanks[/color]

Vista can only be installed on an NTFS partition. With Windows XP you could
install it on a FAT32 file system or an NTFS file system. If you installed
XP on a FAT32 file system you also had the option of converting the
disk/partition to NTFS after XP had been installed. This is one of the
differences between XP and Vista. Vista, however, doesn't install on a FAT32
file system; it only installs on an NTFS file system.

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"Tami N" <TamiN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:83275DAD-D0D3-4E61-ADE2-15B39B8249F9@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I've been reading several books on Vista and in one of them it indicated
> that
> FAT and FAT32 were supported in Vista but NTFS was preferred. Later in
> the
> same book it says that Vista only supports NTFS...just wanted to get some
> insight into this.
>
> Thanks[/color]

Vista is itself FAT.. very FAT and bloated... a pig a rino, a hippo.... you
get the drift.

other than that it cannot install on fat32 like XP could.. but it can READ
all kinds of fat and ntfs of course

If Vista needs 10 gb to install, and vista really needs 20 gb minimum to
function.. then you can imagine the problems.. since
win2k and XP had a limit of 32 GB for fat disks...

see here [url]http://www.allensmith.net/Storage/HDDlimit/FAT32.htm[/url]

you could say that they would extend this limit for vista... but they wanted
to kill fat anyway....

There is room for ONLY 1 FATSO in the Vista era... and that is Vista itself!
:-)

"Tami N" <TamiN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:83275DAD-D0D3-4E61-ADE2-15B39B8249F9@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I've been reading several books on Vista and in one of them it indicated
> that
> FAT and FAT32 were supported in Vista but NTFS was preferred. Later in
> the
> same book it says that Vista only supports NTFS...just wanted to get some
> insight into this.
>
> Thanks[/color]

ahh yes there is another reason why they killed fat...

They wanted to change the structure of vistas basic files, so
they have done some tricks with the files by creating virtual paths for
legacy programs to still function...

basically they made a mess of this.. but anyway.... you could not do that
with fat32.. only NTFS supports this.

Everything about vista is a mess... so Im not surprised.

"Tami N" <TamiN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:83275DAD-D0D3-4E61-ADE2-15B39B8249F9@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I've been reading several books on Vista and in one of them it indicated
> that
> FAT and FAT32 were supported in Vista but NTFS was preferred. Later in
> the
> same book it says that Vista only supports NTFS...just wanted to get some
> insight into this.
>
> Thanks[/color]

On Fri, 25 May 2007 13:49:26 -0400, "Richard Urban"
<richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Vista supports fat32/16[/color]


And, let me add, for the sake of completeness, FAT12 (the file system
used on diskettes and very small hard drives).

[color=blue]
> but can only be installed on an NTFS partition.[/color]

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On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:26:23 +0300, "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk>
wrote:

[color=blue]
>If Vista needs 10 gb to install, and vista really needs 20 gb minimum to
>function.. then you can imagine the problems.. since
>win2k and XP had a limit of 32 GB for fat disks...[/color]


No, there was/is no such limit. The 32GB limit is the limit of how
large a FAT32 partition can be *created*. There is no problem using a
larger one if it is created externally.

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yes I know... windows ME could create fat32 partitions and format them with
practically no limit
*there are limits but there are no drives so big yet*.

I also used partition magic, that unfortunatly is no longer compatible with
vista.. a shame... norton bought it now and they killed it.

but then again.. in fat32 you have the 4 gb file limit.. meaning that one
file could not be larger than 4 gb..

generally I like ntfs far better than fat32... some people liked fat32
because they said it was faster...
however I didnt notice any difference ever, and for me ntfs was always more
stable..


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:i9fe535hpfpfrnemucs8bnidg8n6s17pfb@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:26:23 +0300, "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk>
> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>If Vista needs 10 gb to install, and vista really needs 20 gb minimum to
>>function.. then you can imagine the problems.. since
>>win2k and XP had a limit of 32 GB for fat disks...[/color]
>
>
> No, there was/is no such limit. The 32GB limit is the limit of how
> large a FAT32 partition can be *created*. There is no problem using a
> larger one if it is created externally.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup[/color]

Heloo!

"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message news:Ouoj4JwnHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Vista is itself FAT.. very FAT and bloated... a pig a rino, a hippo.... you get the drift.[/color]

LOL!

BTW, there is a new file system supported in Vista:
exFAT = Extremely FAT ;)
[url]http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa914353.aspx[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT[/url]

Cheers, Roman

Tiberius wrote:
[color=blue]
> Vista is itself FAT.. very FAT and bloated... a pig a rino, a hippo....
> you get the drift.
>[/color]
Like this? [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EbCyibkNB0[/url]

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[color=blue]
> Vista is itself FAT.. very FAT and bloated... a pig a rino, a hippo....
> you
> get the drift.[/color]

sorta like your head, a head that thinks it knows and well you know? right?
:)

A wise man said, consider the source, and if you don't know the source,
consider another source. :)
[color=blue]
> If Vista needs 10 gb to install, and vista really needs 20 gb minimum to
> function.. then you can imagine the problems.. since
> win2k and XP had a limit of 32 GB for fat disks...[/color]

A horse and buggy doesn't need ANY gas .. and well since a car needs gas ..
well you can imagine...
Or, maybe you can't imagine and that's precisely the nut of the problem :)

VISTA installs on NTFS
VISTA can read and write to FAT FAT32

I don't know anything compared to what needs to be discovered....

I am learning an a tremendous speed though vast amounts of information.

The brain is capable of infinite storage capacity.

Since the total possible neuron and dendrite connection COMBINATIONS are
far-far greater than all the atoms
of all the universe.

"Rich" <r.green@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:eiPMiaznHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Vista is itself FAT.. very FAT and bloated... a pig a rino, a hippo....
>> you
>> get the drift.[/color]
>
> sorta like your head, a head that thinks it knows and well you know?
> right? :)
>
> A wise man said, consider the source, and if you don't know the source,
> consider another source. :)
>[color=green]
>> If Vista needs 10 gb to install, and vista really needs 20 gb minimum to
>> function.. then you can imagine the problems.. since
>> win2k and XP had a limit of 32 GB for fat disks...[/color]
>
> A horse and buggy doesn't need ANY gas .. and well since a car needs gas
> .. well you can imagine...
> Or, maybe you can't imagine and that's precisely the nut of the problem :)
>
> VISTA installs on NTFS
> VISTA can read and write to FAT FAT32
>
>
>[/color]

In article <t5fe53dnbg0l6h3thten72jja41l7fi3fr@4ax.com>, MVP Ken Blake
wrote:
[color=blue]
> FAT12 (the file system
> used on diskettes and very small hard drives).[/color]

and on some camera flash cards ......

In article <usGTKiwnHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Tiberius wrote:
[color=blue]
> I also used partition magic, that unfortunatly is no longer compatible with*
> vista.[/color]

My VISTA -- Business and then upgraded to Ultimate -- was installed in a
partition created by Partition Magic 8 that is installed on my XP drive ....

Works fine.

But in view of what I hear, I would not change a partition with VISTA in it
using PM.

I understand that GPARTED is OK in VISTA but I've not run it.

yes if you create the partition first with partition magic its ok...

I meant that PM is not compatible when you run it from within vista

there is a Paragon disk manager that seems good


"huwyngr" <Hugh_Wyn_Griffith@simpilot.net> wrote in message
news:VA.00000363.006eede3@unspam.tampabay.rr.com...[color=blue]
> In article <usGTKiwnHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, Tiberius wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I also used partition magic, that unfortunatly is no longer compatible
>> with
>> vista.[/color]
>
> My VISTA -- Business and then upgraded to Ultimate -- was installed in a
> partition created by Partition Magic 8 that is installed on my XP drive
> ....
>
> Works fine.
>
> But in view of what I hear, I would not change a partition with VISTA in
> it
> using PM.
>
> I understand that GPARTED is OK in VISTA but I've not run it.
>[/color]