john wrote:[color=blue]
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:u3mYMQlnHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>so then why are you here?
>>>you ain't exactly the poster boy for stability...
>>>[/color]
>>
>>What in the world is that stench I smell? Is there a skunk following me
>>around or what?
>>OMG...it's lil'johnboy!
>>Wow do you stink!
>>Have your mom change your diaper and give us all a break.
>>(snort)
>>Frank[/color]
>
>
> You're right Frank, I apologize.
> I realize I've been picking on you and it just isn't fair by golly.
>
> someday with enough counseling and guidance, I hope to re-enter society and
> be just as well adjusted as you are.
> can you recommend a good shrink? who do you see?[/color]

Your problems started the moment you thought you were smarter than me.
Game over!
(smirk)
Frank

Hi Julie

One thing to remember when responding to a known troll is that they have
already won. They post their off topic drivel for one reason and one reason
only, and that is to get a response. Any response.

If you click the Reply button, it doesn't matter what you post, they win,
period. If you also quote their message, then that is just icing on the cake
for them.

Since you are using Outlook Express to post, it's very easy to make their
posts invisible. Just click Message/Block Sender on the toolbar. This makes
these newsgroups much more pleasant to read.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
news:eU8jEDlnHHA.4628@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Ok ok, I'm going to try and be VERY civil here.
>
> PLEASE!!! Please stop posting useless information in here. Stop trying to
> change everyone's opinion to the way you think. Everyone is different...
> We don't live in communist societies here. Most people here don't want to
> hear that XP is better than Vista. Its only your opinion. Your not the
> moderator/news reporter for everyone. Anybody that does read your posts
> have already read it or heard about it. Nobody cares what you think about
> Vista.
>
> I like it, others like it. I could never go back to XP. But thats me. You
> don't see me posting trash all over the XP newsgroup do you? Are you
> starting to see why your posts are very annoying and a waste of yours,
> ours, and everyone elses time?
>
> PLEASE stop posting trash. Please post only if you are going to help
> someone. You are worse than KJP when he was around (Just FYI). I can
> remember him posting some stupid thing that microsoft should recall Vista
> because music notes (caused by nvidia!!!) flashed during setup... "Show
> stopping bug" he says. They were the days... And now your making it worse.
>
>
>
> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
> news:u$nlV2knHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I explained to you that sp3 for xp does interest the people who come in
>>here wondering about if they should get
>> vista yet. There were rumors that perhaps there would never be a sp3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:%236f2QyknHHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> What the hell are you going on about? I asked how SP3 for XP has
>>> anything to do with vista... I'm not interested in the drool on your
>>> keyboard :-S
>>>
>>> You seem to predict a lot... Why aren't you the richest man in the
>>> world?
>>>
>>> I love you tiberius, have my babies... you're sooooooo smart
>>> *earth-shattering sarcasm*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>> news:OZ4THGknHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I already use vista you insulting horrid creature you.... I just don't
>>>>like it and prefer XP
>>>> I have been using it long before you even heard about it...
>>>>
>>>> It is related because many people come here wondering if they should
>>>> switch to vista...
>>>>
>>>> The longer they can remain with XP the better the hardware will become
>>>> during that time... and when they finally select
>>>> to go to vista they will be able to buy a 4 or even 8 core machine.
>>>> Vista needs power because its a bloat monster.
>>>>
>>>> Also service packs and other fixes will be out.
>>>>
>>>> MS however said that this news in that article unfortunately was
>>>> incorrect.. as I predicted some time ago..
>>>>
>>>> they will delay XPsp3 as long as possible so that people will switch to
>>>> vista... Now they are back to the 2008 story.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23ZrM2AknHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ODrdKbjnHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=40490[/url]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By that time, you'll be using vista... Just wait and see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, how does this affect the vista newsgroup or vista users? Stop
>>>>> posting trash, idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
news:el$$29lnHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> Your problems started the moment you thought you were smarter than me.
> Game over!
> (smirk)
> Frank[/color]

right Frank, you are smarter.
in fact, you're smarter than every person here.

after all, you're running every known software:
=======================================
from: Re: Anyone able to run Vista successfully?
"Well guess what! I use 3 installs of Vista Ultimate as the primary
computers in my small marketing/advertising business. I have just about
every known software loaded and working perfectly."
- Frank
=======================================
(does that include Leisure Suit Larry for Linux?)

...and you have "some Degree's" [sic]:
=======================================
Re: Vista disk activity driving me insane
"Oh...could it be that Frank maybe has some Degree's you don't have?
What do you think punk?"
- Frank
=======================================
(yea, more than one roll-on deodorant)

wish I could say those things... really.
i'm so ashamed.

==================
but speaking of games...

Coming this Fall on Fox:
the new Jeff Foxworthy show... "Are You Smarter than Frank?"
- the game show where --everyone-- is a winner...! (How can they not be??)
(snort) (smirk) (belch) (fart) (sniff)

troll
loser
punk
idiot
hmm, you better decide, you're smarter

ROFL

> Everyone is different... We don't live in communist societies here.

Are we not? :)

Read your own replies and how people scared away dissatisfied users.

No offense, but pointing finger is always easier :)

"Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
news:eU8jEDlnHHA.4628@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Ok ok, I'm going to try and be VERY civil here.
>
> PLEASE!!! Please stop posting useless information in here. Stop trying to
> change everyone's opinion to the way you think. Everyone is different...
> We don't live in communist societies here. Most people here don't want to
> hear that XP is better than Vista. Its only your opinion. Your not the
> moderator/news reporter for everyone. Anybody that does read your posts
> have already read it or heard about it. Nobody cares what you think about
> Vista.
>
> I like it, others like it. I could never go back to XP. But thats me. You
> don't see me posting trash all over the XP newsgroup do you? Are you
> starting to see why your posts are very annoying and a waste of yours,
> ours, and everyone elses time?
>
> PLEASE stop posting trash. Please post only if you are going to help
> someone. You are worse than KJP when he was around (Just FYI). I can
> remember him posting some stupid thing that microsoft should recall Vista
> because music notes (caused by nvidia!!!) flashed during setup... "Show
> stopping bug" he says. They were the days... And now your making it worse.
>
>
>
> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
> news:u$nlV2knHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I explained to you that sp3 for xp does interest the people who come in
>>here wondering about if they should get
>> vista yet. There were rumors that perhaps there would never be a sp3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:%236f2QyknHHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> What the hell are you going on about? I asked how SP3 for XP has
>>> anything to do with vista... I'm not interested in the drool on your
>>> keyboard :-S
>>>
>>> You seem to predict a lot... Why aren't you the richest man in the
>>> world?
>>>
>>> I love you tiberius, have my babies... you're sooooooo smart
>>> *earth-shattering sarcasm*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>> news:OZ4THGknHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I already use vista you insulting horrid creature you.... I just don't
>>>>like it and prefer XP
>>>> I have been using it long before you even heard about it...
>>>>
>>>> It is related because many people come here wondering if they should
>>>> switch to vista...
>>>>
>>>> The longer they can remain with XP the better the hardware will become
>>>> during that time... and when they finally select
>>>> to go to vista they will be able to buy a 4 or even 8 core machine.
>>>> Vista needs power because its a bloat monster.
>>>>
>>>> Also service packs and other fixes will be out.
>>>>
>>>> MS however said that this news in that article unfortunately was
>>>> incorrect.. as I predicted some time ago..
>>>>
>>>> they will delay XPsp3 as long as possible so that people will switch to
>>>> vista... Now they are back to the 2008 story.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23ZrM2AknHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ODrdKbjnHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=40490[/url]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By that time, you'll be using vista... Just wait and see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, how does this affect the vista newsgroup or vista users? Stop
>>>>> posting trash, idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

I think many believe that XP SP3 is going to be some kind of revelation. My
guess is it will be nothing more than a compilation of the current XP
updates.


"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
news:u$nlV2knHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I explained to you that sp3 for xp does interest the people who come in
>here wondering about if they should get
> vista yet. There were rumors that perhaps there would never be a sp3
>
>
>
>
> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:%236f2QyknHHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> What the hell are you going on about? I asked how SP3 for XP has anything
>> to do with vista... I'm not interested in the drool on your keyboard :-S
>>
>> You seem to predict a lot... Why aren't you the richest man in the world?
>>
>> I love you tiberius, have my babies... you're sooooooo smart
>> *earth-shattering sarcasm*
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>> news:OZ4THGknHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>I already use vista you insulting horrid creature you.... I just don't
>>>like it and prefer XP
>>> I have been using it long before you even heard about it...
>>>
>>> It is related because many people come here wondering if they should
>>> switch to vista...
>>>
>>> The longer they can remain with XP the better the hardware will become
>>> during that time... and when they finally select
>>> to go to vista they will be able to buy a 4 or even 8 core machine.
>>> Vista needs power because its a bloat monster.
>>>
>>> Also service packs and other fixes will be out.
>>>
>>> MS however said that this news in that article unfortunately was
>>> incorrect.. as I predicted some time ago..
>>>
>>> they will delay XPsp3 as long as possible so that people will switch to
>>> vista... Now they are back to the 2008 story.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23ZrM2AknHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>>> news:ODrdKbjnHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=40490[/url]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By that time, you'll be using vista... Just wait and see.
>>>>
>>>> Btw, how does this affect the vista newsgroup or vista users? Stop
>>>> posting trash, idiot.
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

john wrote:
[color=blue]
> hmm, you better decide, you're smarter[/color]


johnboy...being smarter than you is not stretch at all.
In fact, most people are smarter than you.
That's must be downright depressing, right?
(snort)
Frank

And you are probably right.
AFAIK, Microsoft has given no indication that SP-3 will be any more
than a compiliation.
It will make reinstalling Windows XP easier.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"David A. Spicer" <xp_fan********.com> wrote in message
news:A517943F-C400-458C-A117-F9954D95D4E1@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I think many believe that XP SP3 is going to be some kind of
>revelation. My guess is it will be nothing more than a compilation of
>the current XP updates.>>>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>> news:OZ4THGknHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I already use vista you insulting horrid creature you.... I just
>>>>don't like it and prefer XP
>>>> I have been using it long before you even heard about it...
>>>>
>>>> It is related because many people come here wondering if they
>>>> should switch to vista...
>>>>
>>>> The longer they can remain with XP the better the hardware will
>>>> become during that time... and when they finally select
>>>> to go to vista they will be able to buy a 4 or even 8 core
>>>> machine. Vista needs power because its a bloat monster.
>>>>
>>>> Also service packs and other fixes will be out.
>>>>
>>>> MS however said that this news in that article unfortunately was
>>>> incorrect.. as I predicted some time ago..
>>>>
>>>> they will delay XPsp3 as long as possible so that people will
>>>> switch to vista... Now they are back to the 2008 story.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23ZrM2AknHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ODrdKbjnHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=40490[/url]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By that time, you'll be using vista... Just wait and see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, how does this affect the vista newsgroup or vista users?
>>>>> Stop posting trash, idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Last official rumor I heard was August this year.
Dave
"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
news:ODrdKbjnHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=40490[/url]
>
>
>
>[/color]

Where was that?
AFAIK, this is the only official source:
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx[/url]
1 Half 2008, same as it has stated for many months.
More than a rumor, but still preliminary.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
news:O$%23ZMpnnHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Last official rumor I heard was August this year.
> Dave[/color]

"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in
news:OZ4THGknHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
[color=blue]
> I already use vista you insulting horrid creature you.... I just don't
> like it and prefer XP[/color]

From what I've seen of it so far, on clients computer systems; I can't
say as I like the interface or the macOS feel in general about it.


<snip>[color=blue]
> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ZrM2AknHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>> news:ODrdKbjnHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=40490[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> By that time, you'll be using vista... Just wait and see.
>>
>> Btw, how does this affect the vista newsgroup or vista users? Stop
>> posting trash, idiot.
>>[/color]
>
>
>[/color]



--
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
email: [email]bughunter.dustin******.com.remo[/email]vethis
web..: [url]http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk[/url]
Pad..: [url]http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml[/url]

let me make this short...

get lost


"Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
news:eU8jEDlnHHA.4628@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Ok ok, I'm going to try and be VERY civil here.
>
> PLEASE!!! Please stop posting useless information in here. Stop trying to
> change everyone's opinion to the way you think. Everyone is different...
> We don't live in communist societies here. Most people here don't want to
> hear that XP is better than Vista. Its only your opinion. Your not the
> moderator/news reporter for everyone. Anybody that does read your posts
> have already read it or heard about it. Nobody cares what you think about
> Vista.
>
> I like it, others like it. I could never go back to XP. But thats me. You
> don't see me posting trash all over the XP newsgroup do you? Are you
> starting to see why your posts are very annoying and a waste of yours,
> ours, and everyone elses time?
>
> PLEASE stop posting trash. Please post only if you are going to help
> someone. You are worse than KJP when he was around (Just FYI). I can
> remember him posting some stupid thing that microsoft should recall Vista
> because music notes (caused by nvidia!!!) flashed during setup... "Show
> stopping bug" he says. They were the days... And now your making it worse.
>
>
>
> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
> news:u$nlV2knHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I explained to you that sp3 for xp does interest the people who come in
>>here wondering about if they should get
>> vista yet. There were rumors that perhaps there would never be a sp3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:%236f2QyknHHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> What the hell are you going on about? I asked how SP3 for XP has
>>> anything to do with vista... I'm not interested in the drool on your
>>> keyboard :-S
>>>
>>> You seem to predict a lot... Why aren't you the richest man in the
>>> world?
>>>
>>> I love you tiberius, have my babies... you're sooooooo smart
>>> *earth-shattering sarcasm*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>> news:OZ4THGknHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I already use vista you insulting horrid creature you.... I just don't
>>>>like it and prefer XP
>>>> I have been using it long before you even heard about it...
>>>>
>>>> It is related because many people come here wondering if they should
>>>> switch to vista...
>>>>
>>>> The longer they can remain with XP the better the hardware will become
>>>> during that time... and when they finally select
>>>> to go to vista they will be able to buy a 4 or even 8 core machine.
>>>> Vista needs power because its a bloat monster.
>>>>
>>>> Also service packs and other fixes will be out.
>>>>
>>>> MS however said that this news in that article unfortunately was
>>>> incorrect.. as I predicted some time ago..
>>>>
>>>> they will delay XPsp3 as long as possible so that people will switch to
>>>> vista... Now they are back to the 2008 story.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23ZrM2AknHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ODrdKbjnHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=40490[/url]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By that time, you'll be using vista... Just wait and see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, how does this affect the vista newsgroup or vista users? Stop
>>>>> posting trash, idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Michael Jennings offered these thoughts for the group's
consideration of the matter at hand:
[color=blue]
> Ah, likely not so. Try sometime in the first half of 2008, if
> not delayed: [url]http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=470[/url]
>[/color]
Whatever it really turns out to be, I'll likely take my standard
"wait and see" for at least 6 months, maybe a year, maybe never. By
2008, I will have had a new state-of-the-art-minus-one PC built for
me, and trade my 2.6 gig AMD to my wife. She doesn't need ultra
speed, and it'll be better than what she has. I suppose by then,
Vista will be ready for prime time, enough drivers will be
available or I'll get a couple new pieces of HW, and fully Vista-
capable apps will be debugged enough.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:eKArjwnnHHA.4960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Where was that?
> AFAIK, this is the only official source:
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx[/url]
> 1 Half 2008, same as it has stated for many months.
> More than a rumor, but still preliminary.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>
>
> "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
> news:O$%23ZMpnnHHA.4552@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Last official rumor I heard was August this year.
>> Dave[/color]
>[/color]

"Official Rumor" Good one!

"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
news:u$nlV2knHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> There were rumors that perhaps there would never be a sp3[/color]

You believe rumors? If not then SP3 has always been planned for release.
If so then that explains a few things.

Also, you claim to have posted this info in some effort to prove that XP can
be MORE STABLE (?) thus a WANT to stay with XP? SP3 will do nothing to make
XP more stable or any better then it already is. It's just a compilation of
what is already available. SP3 will mostly benefit IT professionals so they
can re-install XP without a large sum of updates to follow.

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message news:Xns993B523E9258BReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130...[color=blue]
> Michael Jennings offered these thoughts for the group's
> consideration of the matter at hand:
>[color=green]
>> Ah, likely not so. Try sometime in the first half of 2008, if
>> not delayed: [url]http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=470[/url]
>>[/color]
> Whatever it really turns out to be, I'll likely take my standard
> "wait and see" for at least 6 months, maybe a year, maybe never. By
> 2008, I will have had a new state-of-the-art-minus-one PC built for
> me, and trade my 2.6 gig AMD to my wife. She doesn't need ultra
> speed, and it'll be better than what she has. I suppose by then,
> Vista will be ready for prime time, enough drivers will be
> available or I'll get a couple new pieces of HW, and fully Vista-
> capable apps will be debugged enough.[/color]

SLED 10 seemed slow - I probably needed to be able to tweak it.
Fedora 7 will be released in a week - should have automatic updates.
I feel that Vista constrains me and makes things needlessly difficult,
so I'm interested in alternatives. Apple has some amusing ads.

Operating systems may become commodities for web services.
I think I'll just unplug everything and go camping for a few months.