"mxh" wrote:

"A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted these
days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
state."

Could you possible be more WRONG! The framers of the Constitution
knew only too well what the church had done to the government of
Europe, and did not want the same thing to happen in the US.

Watch Fox News much? A graduate of Bob Jones "University" or
one of the other Evangelical Christian Pseudoschools?

Creationism is junk science.
Evangelical Christianity is junk religion.


"Don't know about that. Have you ever disagreed with a Liberal's
philosophies? Not many will tolerate disagreement with their views."

Have you seen what happens when you disagree with a Conservative
like Rush Limberger or Bill O'Wrongly?
They resort to name calling, like you dumbASS!


"Liberalism is generally a pursuit of the young, and I assume that
is the case here."


Yet again WRONG!!

63yo here.


"the conservative value system lines up more closely
to my own."

Like conservative values of stealing elections, starting a war based on
lies, moving more and more people into poverty each year, etc.?

DCR wrote:[color=blue]
> "mxh" wrote:
>
> "A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted these
> days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
> institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
> state."
>
> Could you possible be more WRONG! The framers of the Constitution
> knew only too well what the church had done to the government of
> Europe, and did not want the same thing to happen in the US.
>
> Watch Fox News much? A graduate of Bob Jones "University" or
> one of the other Evangelical Christian Pseudoschools?
>
> Creationism is junk science.
> Evangelical Christianity is junk religion.
>
>
> "Don't know about that. Have you ever disagreed with a Liberal's
> philosophies? Not many will tolerate disagreement with their views."
>
> Have you seen what happens when you disagree with a Conservative
> like Rush Limberger or Bill O'Wrongly?
> They resort to name calling, like you dumbASS!
>
>
> "Liberalism is generally a pursuit of the young, and I assume that
> is the case here."
>
>
> Yet again WRONG!!
>
> 63yo here.
>
>
> "the conservative value system lines up more closely
> to my own."
>
> Like conservative values of stealing elections, starting a war based on
> lies, moving more and more people into poverty each year, etc.?
>
>
>[/color]

JFK was a Liberal and it is known fact he stole the election.
Everyone thinks the other side is so immoral. Which one wanted all the
votes counted? Bush or Gore? If you honestly look at it neither one did.
Bush wanted to stop Gore from recounting and Gore only wanted the votes
counted in 2 counties where he thought he would win.

DCR wrote:[color=blue]
> "mxh" wrote:
>
> "A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted these
> days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
> institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
> state."
>
> Could you possible be more WRONG! The framers of the Constitution
> knew only too well what the church had done to the government of
> Europe, and did not want the same thing to happen in the US.
>
> Watch Fox News much? A graduate of Bob Jones "University" or
> one of the other Evangelical Christian Pseudoschools?
>
> Creationism is junk science.
> Evangelical Christianity is junk religion.
>
>
> "Don't know about that. Have you ever disagreed with a Liberal's
> philosophies? Not many will tolerate disagreement with their views."
>
> Have you seen what happens when you disagree with a Conservative
> like Rush Limberger or Bill O'Wrongly?
> They resort to name calling, like you dumbASS!
>
>
> "Liberalism is generally a pursuit of the young, and I assume that
> is the case here."
>
>
> Yet again WRONG!!
>
> 63yo here.
>
>
> "the conservative value system lines up more closely
> to my own."
>
> Like conservative values of stealing elections, starting a war based on
> lies, moving more and more people into poverty each year, etc.?
>
>
>[/color]

JFK was a Liberal and it is known fact he stole the election.
Everyone thinks the other side is so immoral. Which one wanted all the
votes counted? Bush or Gore? If you honestly look at it neither one did.
Bush wanted to stop Gore from recounting and Gore only wanted the votes
counted in 2 counties where he thought he would win.

DCR wrote:[color=blue]
> "mxh" wrote:
>
> "A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted these
> days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
> institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
> state."
>
> Could you possible be more WRONG! The framers of the Constitution
> knew only too well what the church had done to the government of
> Europe, and did not want the same thing to happen in the US.
>
> Watch Fox News much? A graduate of Bob Jones "University" or
> one of the other Evangelical Christian Pseudoschools?
>
> Creationism is junk science.
> Evangelical Christianity is junk religion.
>
>
> "Don't know about that. Have you ever disagreed with a Liberal's
> philosophies? Not many will tolerate disagreement with their views."
>
> Have you seen what happens when you disagree with a Conservative
> like Rush Limberger or Bill O'Wrongly?
> They resort to name calling, like you dumbASS!
>
>
> "Liberalism is generally a pursuit of the young, and I assume that
> is the case here."
>
>
> Yet again WRONG!!
>
> 63yo here.
>
>
> "the conservative value system lines up more closely
> to my own."
>
> Like conservative values of stealing elections, starting a war based on
> lies, moving more and more people into poverty each year, etc.?
>
>
>[/color]

JFK was a Liberal and it is known fact he stole the election.
Everyone thinks the other side is so immoral. Which one wanted all the
votes counted? Bush or Gore? If you honestly look at it neither one did.
Bush wanted to stop Gore from recounting and Gore only wanted the votes
counted in 2 counties where he thought he would win.

DCR wrote:[color=blue]
> "mxh" wrote:
>
> "A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted these
> days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
> institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
> state."
>
> Could you possible be more WRONG! The framers of the Constitution
> knew only too well what the church had done to the government of
> Europe, and did not want the same thing to happen in the US.
>
> Watch Fox News much? A graduate of Bob Jones "University" or
> one of the other Evangelical Christian Pseudoschools?
>
> Creationism is junk science.
> Evangelical Christianity is junk religion.
>
>
> "Don't know about that. Have you ever disagreed with a Liberal's
> philosophies? Not many will tolerate disagreement with their views."
>
> Have you seen what happens when you disagree with a Conservative
> like Rush Limberger or Bill O'Wrongly?
> They resort to name calling, like you dumbASS!
>
>
> "Liberalism is generally a pursuit of the young, and I assume that
> is the case here."
>
>
> Yet again WRONG!!
>
> 63yo here.
>
>
> "the conservative value system lines up more closely
> to my own."
>
> Like conservative values of stealing elections, starting a war based on
> lies, moving more and more people into poverty each year, etc.?
>
>
>[/color]

JFK was a Liberal and it is known fact he stole the election.
Everyone thinks the other side is so immoral. Which one wanted all the
votes counted? Bush or Gore? If you honestly look at it neither one did.
Bush wanted to stop Gore from recounting and Gore only wanted the votes
counted in 2 counties where he thought he would win.

DCR wrote:[color=blue]
> "mxh" wrote:
>
> "A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted these
> days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
> institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
> state."
>
> Could you possible be more WRONG! The framers of the Constitution
> knew only too well what the church had done to the government of
> Europe, and did not want the same thing to happen in the US.
>
> Watch Fox News much? A graduate of Bob Jones "University" or
> one of the other Evangelical Christian Pseudoschools?
>
> Creationism is junk science.
> Evangelical Christianity is junk religion.
>
>
> "Don't know about that. Have you ever disagreed with a Liberal's
> philosophies? Not many will tolerate disagreement with their views."
>
> Have you seen what happens when you disagree with a Conservative
> like Rush Limberger or Bill O'Wrongly?
> They resort to name calling, like you dumbASS!
>
>
> "Liberalism is generally a pursuit of the young, and I assume that
> is the case here."
>
>
> Yet again WRONG!!
>
> 63yo here.
>
>
> "the conservative value system lines up more closely
> to my own."
>
> Like conservative values of stealing elections, starting a war based on
> lies, moving more and more people into poverty each year, etc.?
>
>
>[/color]

JFK was a Liberal and it is known fact he stole the election.
Everyone thinks the other side is so immoral. Which one wanted all the
votes counted? Bush or Gore? If you honestly look at it neither one did.
Bush wanted to stop Gore from recounting and Gore only wanted the votes
counted in 2 counties where he thought he would win.

DCR wrote:[color=blue]
> "mxh" wrote:
>
> "A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted these
> days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
> institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
> state."
>
> Could you possible be more WRONG! The framers of the Constitution
> knew only too well what the church had done to the government of
> Europe, and did not want the same thing to happen in the US.
>
> Watch Fox News much? A graduate of Bob Jones "University" or
> one of the other Evangelical Christian Pseudoschools?
>
> Creationism is junk science.
> Evangelical Christianity is junk religion.
>
>
> "Don't know about that. Have you ever disagreed with a Liberal's
> philosophies? Not many will tolerate disagreement with their views."
>
> Have you seen what happens when you disagree with a Conservative
> like Rush Limberger or Bill O'Wrongly?
> They resort to name calling, like you dumbASS!
>
>
> "Liberalism is generally a pursuit of the young, and I assume that
> is the case here."
>
>
> Yet again WRONG!!
>
> 63yo here.
>
>
> "the conservative value system lines up more closely
> to my own."
>
> Like conservative values of stealing elections, starting a war based on
> lies, moving more and more people into poverty each year, etc.?
>
>
>[/color]

JFK was a Liberal and it is known fact he stole the election.
Everyone thinks the other side is so immoral. Which one wanted all the
votes counted? Bush or Gore? If you honestly look at it neither one did.
Bush wanted to stop Gore from recounting and Gore only wanted the votes
counted in 2 counties where he thought he would win.

"caver1" <dlarrabe@columbus.rr.435.com> wrote in message
news:4596C898.5040106@columbus.rr.435.com...
|"...and Gore only wanted the votes counted in 2 counties where he thought
|he would win."

And it has since been proved that if the whole state had been counted
Gore would have won.

"DCR" <dcr@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:OkOPdBFLHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "caver1" <dlarrabe@columbus.rr.435.com> wrote in message
> news:4596C898.5040106@columbus.rr.435.com...
> |"...and Gore only wanted the votes counted in 2 counties where he thought
> |he would win."
>
> And it has since been proved that if the whole state had been counted
> Gore would have won.[/color]

Irony can be so delicious or sickening sweet.


-Michael

"caver1" <dlarrabe@columbus.rr.435.com> wrote in message
news:4596C898.5040106@columbus.rr.435.com...
|"...and Gore only wanted the votes counted in 2 counties where he thought
|he would win."

And it has since been proved that if the whole state had been counted
Gore would have won.

"caver1" <dlarrabe@columbus.rr.435.com> wrote in message
news:4596C898.5040106@columbus.rr.435.com...
|"...and Gore only wanted the votes counted in 2 counties where he thought
|he would win."

And it has since been proved that if the whole state had been counted
Gore would have won.

"DCR" <dcr@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:OkOPdBFLHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "caver1" <dlarrabe@columbus.rr.435.com> wrote in message
> news:4596C898.5040106@columbus.rr.435.com...
> |"...and Gore only wanted the votes counted in 2 counties where he thought
> |he would win."
>
> And it has since been proved that if the whole state had been counted
> Gore would have won.[/color]

Irony can be so delicious or sickening sweet.


-Michael

"DCR" <dcr@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:OkOPdBFLHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "caver1" <dlarrabe@columbus.rr.435.com> wrote in message
> news:4596C898.5040106@columbus.rr.435.com...
> |"...and Gore only wanted the votes counted in 2 counties where he thought
> |he would win."
>
> And it has since been proved that if the whole state had been counted
> Gore would have won.[/color]

Irony can be so delicious or sickening sweet.


-Michael

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:14:36 -0500, DCR wrote:
[color=blue]
> "A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted
> these days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
> institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
> state."[/color]

No, they instituted separation of church and state to protect the
union and the people from a dangerous merging of religion and government.
State-sponsored persecutions and religious wars had long been commonplace
under the church-dominated governments of Europe. There were strong
religious differences even among the 13 Colonies and it was feared that
allowing each to introduce their particular religion into government, even
just locally, would inevitably lead to divisive religious wars between the
states that would fracture the union and, just incidentally, also get a
whole lot of good people killed.

DCR did NOT write that.
mxh wrote that.


"arachnid" <none@goawayspammers.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.12.30.20.46.39.85466@goawayspammers.com...
| On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:14:36 -0500, mxh wrote:
|
| > "A very important concept. Unfortunately, it is widely misinterpreted
| > these days, as you have just demonstrated. The framers of the constituion
| > institued 'separation of church and state' to protect the church, NOT the
| > state."
|
| No, they instituted separation of church and state to protect the
| union and the people from a dangerous merging of religion and government.
| State-sponsored persecutions and religious wars had long been commonplace
| under the church-dominated governments of Europe. There were strong
| religious differences even among the 13 Colonies and it was feared that
| allowing each to introduce their particular religion into government, even
| just locally, would inevitably lead to divisive religious wars between the
| states that would fracture the union and, just incidentally, also get a
| whole lot of good people killed.
|