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Old 01-02-2007, 11:43 AM
Rick Tyefisher
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Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it without
the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but nothing
for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to install
Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the time
comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that
would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
month........


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Old 01-02-2007, 11:43 AM
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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

You can run it for 30 days without a key. The key you received in the beta
that lasts until June is only good for beta builds. RTM is the retail
product, so you have to buy a key for it.

Only builds that will last more than 30 days will be pre-RTM beta builds
such as RC2, RC1...

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"Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=blue]
> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it
> without the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but
> nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to
> install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the time
> comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that
> would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
> month........
>[/color]

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Old 01-02-2007, 11:43 AM
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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

"Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=blue]
> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it
> without the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but
> nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to
> install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the time
> comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that
> would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
> month........[/color]

You'll be able to use it for 30 days without entering a key.

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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

You can run it for 30 days without a key. The key you received in the beta
that lasts until June is only good for beta builds. RTM is the retail
product, so you have to buy a key for it.

Only builds that will last more than 30 days will be pre-RTM beta builds
such as RC2, RC1...

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/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Robert Firth *
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* [url]http://www.WinVistaInfo.org[/url] *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */

"Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=blue]
> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it
> without the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but
> nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to
> install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the time
> comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that
> would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
> month........
>[/color]

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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

"Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=blue]
> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it
> without the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but
> nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to
> install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the time
> comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that
> would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
> month........[/color]

You'll be able to use it for 30 days without entering a key.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
[url]http://www.windowsresource.net/[/url]
Get ready for Windows Vista: [url]http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/[/url]

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Old 01-02-2007, 11:43 AM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

You will need a full edition of Home Premium to upgrade a CPP Home Premium.
You cannot do that with an upgrade edition product key because the CPP copy
is evaluation software and does not qualify for upgrade pricing. If you buy
an upgrade edition product key you will have to reinstall XP Home to upgrade
to Home Premium.

"Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=blue]
> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it
> without the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but
> nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to
> install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the time
> comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that
> would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
> month........
>[/color]

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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

You will need a full edition of Home Premium to upgrade a CPP Home Premium.
You cannot do that with an upgrade edition product key because the CPP copy
is evaluation software and does not qualify for upgrade pricing. If you buy
an upgrade edition product key you will have to reinstall XP Home to upgrade
to Home Premium.

"Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=blue]
> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it
> without the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but
> nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to
> install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the time
> comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that
> would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
> month........
>[/color]

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Old 01-02-2007, 11:43 AM
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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

Actually, I believe it's 120 days. The original 30 day activation,
plus the ability to "rearm" three times.

------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned,
but you can restart the 30 day grace period.
It is built into Windows, it's not a hack.

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/faq.mspx[/url]
<quote>
Q. What is Initial Grace?
A.Initial Grace (or OOB Grace) starts the first time you start your computer after you install
the operating system. It provides 30 days for the computer to be activated. The Initial Grace
period can only be restarted by running sysprep /generalize, or by using slmgr.vbs -rearm.
These processes reset the Initial Grace timer to 30 days. This will only work three times.
</quote>

In an elevated command prompt type:
slmgr -rearm


-Michael

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:eKLxl83KHHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
> news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=green]
>> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it without the key? I have
>> the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to
>> Premium, so I don't want to install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium
>> when the time comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that would
>> see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next month........[/color]
>
>
> You can actually run for three months without activating, if you know the 'secret' command.
> It's in here somewhere...
>
> ss.[/color]

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Old 01-02-2007, 11:43 AM
MICHAEL
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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

Actually, I believe it's 120 days. The original 30 day activation,
plus the ability to "rearm" three times.

------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned,
but you can restart the 30 day grace period.
It is built into Windows, it's not a hack.

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/faq.mspx[/url]
<quote>
Q. What is Initial Grace?
A.Initial Grace (or OOB Grace) starts the first time you start your computer after you install
the operating system. It provides 30 days for the computer to be activated. The Initial Grace
period can only be restarted by running sysprep /generalize, or by using slmgr.vbs -rearm.
These processes reset the Initial Grace timer to 30 days. This will only work three times.
</quote>

In an elevated command prompt type:
slmgr -rearm


-Michael

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:eKLxl83KHHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
> news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=green]
>> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it without the key? I have
>> the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to
>> Premium, so I don't want to install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium
>> when the time comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that would
>> see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next month........[/color]
>
>
> You can actually run for three months without activating, if you know the 'secret' command.
> It's in here somewhere...
>
> ss.[/color]

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Rick Tyefisher
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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

"> In an elevated command prompt type:[color=blue]
> slmgr -rearm"[/color]

Uh, without sounding too dumb, what is an elevated command? From the run command in windows, or maybe the C: prompt? If I did this, I could run it for 30+30+30 days if need be before I get my express upgrade and then could use that key?

R...


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message news:OFMeLE4KHHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Actually, I believe it's 120 days. The original 30 day activation,
> plus the ability to "rearm" three times.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned,
> but you can restart the 30 day grace period.
> It is built into Windows, it's not a hack.
>
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/faq.mspx[/url]
> <quote>
> Q. What is Initial Grace?
> A.Initial Grace (or OOB Grace) starts the first time you start your computer after you install
> the operating system. It provides 30 days for the computer to be activated. The Initial Grace
> period can only be restarted by running sysprep /generalize, or by using slmgr.vbs -rearm.
> These processes reset the Initial Grace timer to 30 days. This will only work three times.
> </quote>
>
> In an elevated command prompt type:
> slmgr -rearm
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
> news:eKLxl83KHHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
>> news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=darkred]
>>> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it without the key? I have
>>> the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to
>>> Premium, so I don't want to install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium
>>> when the time comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that would
>>> see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next month........[/color]
>>
>>
>> You can actually run for three months without activating, if you know the 'secret' command.
>> It's in here somewhere...
>>
>> ss. [/color]
>[/color]
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Rick Tyefisher
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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

"> In an elevated command prompt type:[color=blue]
> slmgr -rearm"[/color]

Uh, without sounding too dumb, what is an elevated command? From the run command in windows, or maybe the C: prompt? If I did this, I could run it for 30+30+30 days if need be before I get my express upgrade and then could use that key?

R...


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message news:OFMeLE4KHHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Actually, I believe it's 120 days. The original 30 day activation,
> plus the ability to "rearm" three times.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned,
> but you can restart the 30 day grace period.
> It is built into Windows, it's not a hack.
>
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/plan/faq.mspx[/url]
> <quote>
> Q. What is Initial Grace?
> A.Initial Grace (or OOB Grace) starts the first time you start your computer after you install
> the operating system. It provides 30 days for the computer to be activated. The Initial Grace
> period can only be restarted by running sysprep /generalize, or by using slmgr.vbs -rearm.
> These processes reset the Initial Grace timer to 30 days. This will only work three times.
> </quote>
>
> In an elevated command prompt type:
> slmgr -rearm
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
> news:eKLxl83KHHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
>> news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=darkred]
>>> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it without the key? I have
>>> the key from Ultimate that is good until June, but nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to
>>> Premium, so I don't want to install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium
>>> when the time comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key that would
>>> see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next month........[/color]
>>
>>
>> You can actually run for three months without activating, if you know the 'secret' command.
>> It's in here somewhere...
>>
>> ss. [/color]
>[/color]
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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

And, what "secret" command would I search for? I'm not trying to "beat the
system", just can't wait to try Home Premium for now.........

R...
"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:eKLxl83KHHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
> news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=green]
>> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it
>> without the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June,
>> but nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to
>> install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the
>> time comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key
>> that would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
>> month........[/color]
>
>
> You can actually run for three months without activating, if you know the
> 'secret' command. It's in here somewhere...
>
> ss.[/color]


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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

And, what "secret" command would I search for? I'm not trying to "beat the
system", just can't wait to try Home Premium for now.........

R...
"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:eKLxl83KHHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
> news:2Hblh.533616$5R2.138233@pd7urf3no...[color=green]
>> If I was to install Home Premium, how long will I be able to run it
>> without the key? I have the key from Ultimate that is good until June,
>> but nothing for Home. My upgrade will be to Premium, so I don't want to
>> install Ultimate then have to format to install Home Premium when the
>> time comes........... Or, where can I get the 6 month Home Premium key
>> that would see me thru until I receive my Express upgrade, hopefully next
>> month........[/color]
>
>
> You can actually run for three months without activating, if you know the
> 'secret' command. It's in here somewhere...
>
> ss.[/color]


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Re: Installing Vista RTM Home Premium..........

"Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
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> And, what "secret" command would I search for? I'm not trying to "beat
> the system", just can't wait to try Home Premium for now.........
>[/color]


Michael has told you what to do.

ss.

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"Rick Tyefisher" <tarric@shaw(removethis).ca> wrote in message
news:UEelh.533800$5R2.14085@pd7urf3no...[color=blue]
> And, what "secret" command would I search for? I'm not trying to "beat
> the system", just can't wait to try Home Premium for now.........
>[/color]


Michael has told you what to do.

ss.

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