"Ban Strife" <Ban.Strife.2qu633@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:Ban.Strife.2qu633@no-mx.forums.net...
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> As a young man of 18 years, I thought that maybe I can learn more.
> Instead, I read of things so foul that I could not believe those who had
> posted those messages are actually adults; people who are wiser, more
> experienced than I. They ranted and cursed, and even whined about how
> Windows Vista wasn't just right.[/color]

One might argue that depending on what the complaint is, and how it is
presented, people are perfectly entitled to complain when Windows Vista does
the wrong thing.
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> I also know that I am not in the right to say this but please, I beg
> you people, please respect each other. If you like Mac or Linux, then so
> be it. You do not have to spread tantrums all over the forums.
>
> We are not here to obliterate one's morale. We are not here to proclaim
> how glorious one OS is from the other. We are here to help and learn
> from one another.
>
> Again, I beg you people, please, start making this forum a better place
> to share thoughts in.[/color]

You're right, of course you are, when you talk about people needing to
behave better, but I am going to share something you might not have realised
which may go some way to explaining (but not defending) the state of the
discussions here.

These forums are not the "Vistax64.com forums". These are Microsoft's own
support newsgroups, and Vistax64 are simply leeching a copy of the newsgroup
feed and including it alongside their own forums. Nothing wrong with that.

But... that means that what you see here is not a nice private community of
forums with people who found the site and each other through a sense of
wanting to help others out, but rather a no-cost way of getting support with
microsoft products through the microsoft website.

Anyone who wants to complain because a Microsoft product isn't working right
will probably end up here first.

Anyone who wants to pick a fight over "My OS is better than yours" with
Microsoft users will end up here first.

Anyone who wants to sneer at Microsoft will end up here first.

Anyone who wants help with fixing a minor issue will end up here first and
at the moment will get drowned out by the people in other categories.

That's the nature of newsgroups and usenet; everyone has an opinion and
no-one has to think twice before sharing it.

--
Robert Moir
[url]http://www.rhymeswithgeek.com[/url]

Jeanette wrote:

These wars have been on going for many years. This post will not stop
it. Best thing to do is to kill file those people who act in this
manner. After a while you will notice the news group seems much calmer.

Robert Moir wrote:[color=blue]
> "Ban Strife" <Ban.Strife.2qu633@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:Ban.Strife.2qu633@no-mx.forums.net...
>[color=green]
>> As a young man of 18 years, I thought that maybe I can learn more.
>> Instead, I read of things so foul that I could not believe those who had
>> posted those messages are actually adults; people who are wiser, more
>> experienced than I. They ranted and cursed, and even whined about how
>> Windows Vista wasn't just right.[/color]
>
> One might argue that depending on what the complaint is, and how it is
> presented, people are perfectly entitled to complain when Windows Vista does
> the wrong thing.
>[color=green]
>> I also know that I am not in the right to say this but please, I beg
>> you people, please respect each other. If you like Mac or Linux, then so
>> be it. You do not have to spread tantrums all over the forums.
>>
>> We are not here to obliterate one's morale. We are not here to proclaim
>> how glorious one OS is from the other. We are here to help and learn
>> from one another.
>>
>> Again, I beg you people, please, start making this forum a better place
>> to share thoughts in.[/color]
>
> You're right, of course you are, when you talk about people needing to
> behave better, but I am going to share something you might not have realised
> which may go some way to explaining (but not defending) the state of the
> discussions here.
>
> These forums are not the "Vistax64.com forums". These are Microsoft's own
> support newsgroups, and Vistax64 are simply leeching a copy of the newsgroup
> feed and including it alongside their own forums. Nothing wrong with that.
>
> But... that means that what you see here is not a nice private community of
> forums with people who found the site and each other through a sense of
> wanting to help others out, but rather a no-cost way of getting support with
> microsoft products through the microsoft website.
>
> Anyone who wants to complain because a Microsoft product isn't working right
> will probably end up here first.
>
> Anyone who wants to pick a fight over "My OS is better than yours" with
> Microsoft users will end up here first.
>
> Anyone who wants to sneer at Microsoft will end up here first.
>
> Anyone who wants help with fixing a minor issue will end up here first and
> at the moment will get drowned out by the people in other categories.
>
> That's the nature of newsgroups and usenet; everyone has an opinion and
> no-one has to think twice before sharing it.
>[/color]

"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap******.com> wrote:
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> One might argue that depending on what the complaint is, and how
> it is presented, people are perfectly entitled to complain when
> Windows Vista does the wrong thing.[/color]

One might argue the time might be better spent asking for help with the
specific problem, complaining may make the complainer feel a little
better for a minute or two but resolves nothing.

Bless you!

Now you are the person who is really wise :-)


"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap******.com> wrote in message
news:Ordy4$imHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Ban Strife" <Ban.Strife.2qu633@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:Ban.Strife.2qu633@no-mx.forums.net...
>[color=green]
>> As a young man of 18 years, I thought that maybe I can learn more.
>> Instead, I read of things so foul that I could not believe those who had
>> posted those messages are actually adults; people who are wiser, more
>> experienced than I. They ranted and cursed, and even whined about how
>> Windows Vista wasn't just right.[/color]
>
> One might argue that depending on what the complaint is, and how it is
> presented, people are perfectly entitled to complain when Windows Vista
> does the wrong thing.
>[color=green]
>> I also know that I am not in the right to say this but please, I beg
>> you people, please respect each other. If you like Mac or Linux, then so
>> be it. You do not have to spread tantrums all over the forums.
>>
>> We are not here to obliterate one's morale. We are not here to proclaim
>> how glorious one OS is from the other. We are here to help and learn
>> from one another.
>>
>> Again, I beg you people, please, start making this forum a better place
>> to share thoughts in.[/color]
>
> You're right, of course you are, when you talk about people needing to
> behave better, but I am going to share something you might not have
> realised which may go some way to explaining (but not defending) the state
> of the discussions here.
>
> These forums are not the "Vistax64.com forums". These are Microsoft's own
> support newsgroups, and Vistax64 are simply leeching a copy of the
> newsgroup feed and including it alongside their own forums. Nothing wrong
> with that.
>
> But... that means that what you see here is not a nice private community
> of forums with people who found the site and each other through a sense of
> wanting to help others out, but rather a no-cost way of getting support
> with microsoft products through the microsoft website.
>
> Anyone who wants to complain because a Microsoft product isn't working
> right will probably end up here first.
>
> Anyone who wants to pick a fight over "My OS is better than yours" with
> Microsoft users will end up here first.
>
> Anyone who wants to sneer at Microsoft will end up here first.
>
> Anyone who wants help with fixing a minor issue will end up here first and
> at the moment will get drowned out by the people in other categories.
>
> That's the nature of newsgroups and usenet; everyone has an opinion and
> no-one has to think twice before sharing it.
>
> --
> Robert Moir
> [url]http://www.rhymeswithgeek.com[/url]
>[/color]