I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...

the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.

Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS sales
hype,
and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp.

So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is NOT
to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days

and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can only
assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security issues?
please share them with us



"Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>
> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.
>
> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS
> sales hype,
> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp.
>
> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is NOT
> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days
>[/color]

"Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[color=blue]
>I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.[/color]

Pretty hard to attack somethng that will probably be less than 1% of the
Windows installation at that point, wouldn't it?

and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can only
assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security issues?
please share them with us



"Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>
> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.
>
> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS
> sales hype,
> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp.
>
> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is NOT
> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days
>[/color]

"Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
[color=blue]
>I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.[/color]

Pretty hard to attack somethng that will probably be less than 1% of the
Windows installation at that point, wouldn't it?

Troy McClure wrote:[color=blue]
> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can only
> assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security issues?
> please share them with us[/color]

Sure:

[url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url]

And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy
product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that paying
customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with exploiters
and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning Ubuntu.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>>
>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.
>>
>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS
>> sales hype,
>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp.
>>
>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is NOT
>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days
>>[/color]
>[/color]

> Pretty hard to attack something that will probably be less than 1% of the[color=blue]
> Windows installation at that point, wouldn't it?[/color]

they will do it only to show that they can
and to show that vista is not secure...to discourage people from getting it.

it will be just to warm up to the main course.


sorry I don't like vista since its late longhorn days.. once I saw the way
they were headed... I started feeling uneasy. I was hoping that some miracle
would happen and
they would change course.. but no..

they ignored the feedback* and walked their own walk..

* I am talking about feedback about design concepts, NOT bugs.
Feedback for bugs mean that you accept all the rest and just want to correct
flaws... Correcting flaws on a badly conceived idea is useless.


"Chupacabra" <chupa@cabra.com> wrote in message
news:ONLJg4oKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>[color=green]
>>I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.[/color]
>
> Pretty hard to attack somethng that will probably be less than 1% of the
> Windows installation at that point, wouldn't it?
>[/color]

Alias reported:[color=blue]
> Troy McClure wrote:[color=green]
>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can
>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security
>> issues? please share them with us[/color]
>
> Sure:
>
> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url]
>
> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy
> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that paying
> customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with exploiters
> and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning Ubuntu.[/color]

Why not openSUSE... thus staying loyal to Redmond?!

rOy

[color=blue][color=green]
>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>>>
>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.
>>>
>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only
>>> MS sales hype,
>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp.
>>>
>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is
>>> NOT
>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days[/color][/color][/color]

Chupacabra wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>[color=green]
>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.[/color]
>
> Pretty hard to attack somethng that will probably be less than 1% of the
> Windows installation at that point, wouldn't it?
>[/color]

Colossal in quality, not in quantity...


rOy

Troy McClure wrote:[color=blue]
> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can only
> assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security issues?
> please share them with us[/color]

Sure:

[url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url]

And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy
product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that paying
customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with exploiters
and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning Ubuntu.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>>
>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.
>>
>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS
>> sales hype,
>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp.
>>
>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is NOT
>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days
>>[/color]
>[/color]

> Pretty hard to attack something that will probably be less than 1% of the[color=blue]
> Windows installation at that point, wouldn't it?[/color]

they will do it only to show that they can
and to show that vista is not secure...to discourage people from getting it.

it will be just to warm up to the main course.


sorry I don't like vista since its late longhorn days.. once I saw the way
they were headed... I started feeling uneasy. I was hoping that some miracle
would happen and
they would change course.. but no..

they ignored the feedback* and walked their own walk..

* I am talking about feedback about design concepts, NOT bugs.
Feedback for bugs mean that you accept all the rest and just want to correct
flaws... Correcting flaws on a badly conceived idea is useless.


"Chupacabra" <chupa@cabra.com> wrote in message
news:ONLJg4oKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>[color=green]
>>I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.[/color]
>
> Pretty hard to attack somethng that will probably be less than 1% of the
> Windows installation at that point, wouldn't it?
>[/color]

Alias reported:[color=blue]
> Troy McClure wrote:[color=green]
>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can
>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security
>> issues? please share them with us[/color]
>
> Sure:
>
> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url]
>
> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy
> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that paying
> customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with exploiters
> and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning Ubuntu.[/color]

Why not openSUSE... thus staying loyal to Redmond?!

rOy

[color=blue][color=green]
>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>>>
>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.
>>>
>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only
>>> MS sales hype,
>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp.
>>>
>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is
>>> NOT
>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days[/color][/color][/color]

Chupacabra wrote:[color=blue]
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>[color=green]
>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.[/color]
>
> Pretty hard to attack somethng that will probably be less than 1% of the
> Windows installation at that point, wouldn't it?
>[/color]

Colossal in quality, not in quantity...


rOy

Paul Smith wrote:[color=blue]
> "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message
> news:efOu0VpKHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>[color=green]
>> i guarantee youre typing these messages from a Windows OS.[/color]
>
> Thunderbird on Windows. 8-)
>[/color]

Now it's Thunderbird on Ubuntu ( :

Alias

Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote:
[color=blue]
> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other
> in history.[/color]

It's just the beginning as you well know.
[color=blue]
> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously
> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they all
> could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre broke[/color]

Um, I am not broke.
[color=blue]
> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet.[/color]

So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez.

apparently[color=blue]
> theyre doing something right.[/color]

Ripping off customers is "right"?
[color=blue]
> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a
> particularly pathetic version of Linux)[/color]

Your opinion and not one I share.

i guarantee youre typing these[color=blue]
> messages from a Windows OS.[/color]

So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the
way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player
videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install.

If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying
customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking forward
to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The
you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw.

After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, it
won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Troy McClure wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can
>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security
>>> issues? please share them with us[/color]
>>
>> Sure:
>>
>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url]
>>
>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy
>> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that
>> paying customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with
>> exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning Ubuntu.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores...
>>>>
>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history.
>>>>
>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only
>>>> MS sales hype,
>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp.
>>>>
>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice
>>>> is NOT
>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]