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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history Troy McClure wrote:[color=blue] > youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. > get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish > will be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) > and youre running vista > > as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever > will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 > company.... the perks are wonderful > > :) >[/color] Yeah, I've noticed all those things you can't do, like run an expensive media centre setup chocked full of DRM which takes away your fair use rights and ability to control the media centre. (MythTV vs. Vista Media Centre) [color=blue] > > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message > news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green] >> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no >>> other in history.[/color] >> >> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>[color=darkred] >>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they >>> all could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre >>> broke[/color] >> >> Um, I am not broke. >>[color=darkred] >>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet.[/color] >> >> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >> >> apparently[color=darkred] >>> theyre doing something right.[/color] >> >> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>[color=darkred] >>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>> Linux)[/color] >> >> Your opinion and not one I share. >> >> i guarantee youre typing these[color=darkred] >>> messages from a Windows OS.[/color] >> >> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >> >> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking >> forward to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >> >> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, >> it won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >> >> Alias[color=darkred] >>> >>> >>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major >>>>> security issues? please share them with us >>>> >>>> Sure: >>>> >>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>> >>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the >>>> smarmy product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes >>>> that paying customers should participate in their cat and mouse game >>>> with exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am >>>> learning Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> Alias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>> >>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its >>>>>> only MS sales hype, >>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable >>>>>> than xp. >>>>>> >>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice >>>>>> is NOT >>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>> days >>>>>> >>>>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: [url]http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html[/url] "Good poets borrow; great poets steal." - T. S. Eliot -- Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history Troy McClure wrote:[color=blue] > youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. > get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish > will be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) > and youre running vista > > as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever > will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 > company.... the perks are wonderful > > :) >[/color] Yeah, I've noticed all those things you can't do, like run an expensive media centre setup chocked full of DRM which takes away your fair use rights and ability to control the media centre. (MythTV vs. Vista Media Centre) [color=blue] > > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message > news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green] >> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no >>> other in history.[/color] >> >> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>[color=darkred] >>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they >>> all could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre >>> broke[/color] >> >> Um, I am not broke. >>[color=darkred] >>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet.[/color] >> >> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >> >> apparently[color=darkred] >>> theyre doing something right.[/color] >> >> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>[color=darkred] >>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>> Linux)[/color] >> >> Your opinion and not one I share. >> >> i guarantee youre typing these[color=darkred] >>> messages from a Windows OS.[/color] >> >> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >> >> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking >> forward to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >> >> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, >> it won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >> >> Alias[color=darkred] >>> >>> >>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major >>>>> security issues? please share them with us >>>> >>>> Sure: >>>> >>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>> >>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the >>>> smarmy product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes >>>> that paying customers should participate in their cat and mouse game >>>> with exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am >>>> learning Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> Alias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>> >>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its >>>>>> only MS sales hype, >>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable >>>>>> than xp. >>>>>> >>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice >>>>>> is NOT >>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>> days >>>>>> >>>>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: [url]http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html[/url] "Good poets borrow; great poets steal." - T. S. Eliot -- Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history as far as drm, its really something the record companies pushed and pushed. from a business standpoint, can you blame them? and from the standpoint of MS, can you blame THEM? again... its business. and you would do the same thing if it was your call. if not, your company wouldnt be where MS is today. get over it folks "Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message news:45941853$0$15502$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=blue] > Troy McClure wrote:[color=green] >> youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. >> get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish will >> be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) and >> youre running vista >> >> as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever >> will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >> company.... the perks are wonderful >> >> :) >>[/color] > > Yeah, I've noticed all those things you can't do, like run an expensive > media centre setup chocked full of DRM which takes away your fair use > rights and ability to control the media centre. (MythTV vs. Vista Media > Centre) >[color=green] >> >> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >> news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred] >>> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>> >>>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other >>>> in history. >>> >>> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>> >>>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they >>>> all could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre >>>> broke >>> >>> Um, I am not broke. >>> >>>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet. >>> >>> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >>> >>> apparently >>>> theyre doing something right. >>> >>> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>> >>>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>>> Linux) >>> >>> Your opinion and not one I share. >>> >>> i guarantee youre typing these >>>> messages from a Windows OS. >>> >>> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >>> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >>> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >>> >>> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >>> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking forward >>> to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >>> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >>> >>> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, it >>> won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >>> >>> Alias >>>> >>>> >>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security >>>>>> issues? please share them with us >>>>> >>>>> Sure: >>>>> >>>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>>> >>>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy >>>>> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that >>>>> paying customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with >>>>> exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning >>>>> Ubuntu. >>>>> >>>>> Alias >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only >>>>>>> MS sales hype, >>>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than >>>>>>> xp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice >>>>>>> is NOT >>>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>>> days >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>[/color] >>[/color] > > > > -- > Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: > [url]http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html[/url] > > "Good poets borrow; great poets steal." > - T. S. Eliot > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history >as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever will[color=blue] >either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >company.... the perks are wonderful[/color] Does that mean you don't have any personal systems at home or you just used the company's OS for personal systems? Do you ever buy toilet papers, pencils, cafe...? Maybe pirates don't hurt a company as bad as a stealing employee, but I'm not sure if you're one of them. But your attitude seems to be one. "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message news:eB0AArpKHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue] > youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. > get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish will > be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) and > youre running vista > > as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever will > either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 > company.... the perks are wonderful > > :) > > > > > > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message > news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green] >> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other >>> in history.[/color] >> >> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>[color=darkred] >>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they all >>> could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre broke[/color] >> >> Um, I am not broke. >>[color=darkred] >>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet.[/color] >> >> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >> >> apparently[color=darkred] >>> theyre doing something right.[/color] >> >> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>[color=darkred] >>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>> Linux)[/color] >> >> Your opinion and not one I share. >> >> i guarantee youre typing these[color=darkred] >>> messages from a Windows OS.[/color] >> >> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >> >> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking forward >> to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >> >> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, it >> won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >> >> Alias[color=darkred] >>> >>> >>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security >>>>> issues? please share them with us >>>> >>>> Sure: >>>> >>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>> >>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy >>>> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that paying >>>> customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with >>>> exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning >>>> Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> Alias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>> >>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only >>>>>> MS sales hype, >>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than >>>>>> xp. >>>>>> >>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is >>>>>> NOT >>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>> days >>>>>> >>>>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history >as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever will[color=blue] >either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >company.... the perks are wonderful[/color] Does that mean you don't have any personal systems at home or you just used the company's OS for personal systems? Do you ever buy toilet papers, pencils, cafe...? Maybe pirates don't hurt a company as bad as a stealing employee, but I'm not sure if you're one of them. But your attitude seems to be one. "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message news:eB0AArpKHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue] > youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. > get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish will > be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) and > youre running vista > > as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever will > either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 > company.... the perks are wonderful > > :) > > > > > > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message > news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green] >> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>[color=darkred] >>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other >>> in history.[/color] >> >> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>[color=darkred] >>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they all >>> could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre broke[/color] >> >> Um, I am not broke. >>[color=darkred] >>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet.[/color] >> >> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >> >> apparently[color=darkred] >>> theyre doing something right.[/color] >> >> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>[color=darkred] >>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>> Linux)[/color] >> >> Your opinion and not one I share. >> >> i guarantee youre typing these[color=darkred] >>> messages from a Windows OS.[/color] >> >> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >> >> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking forward >> to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >> >> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, it >> won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >> >> Alias[color=darkred] >>> >>> >>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security >>>>> issues? please share them with us >>>> >>>> Sure: >>>> >>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>> >>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy >>>> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that paying >>>> customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with >>>> exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning >>>> Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> Alias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>> >>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only >>>>>> MS sales hype, >>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than >>>>>> xp. >>>>>> >>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is >>>>>> NOT >>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>> days >>>>>> >>>>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history It is amazing how many admitted thieves post in these groups. All of those who complain about the burden of DRM and activation or complain about rising costs for Microsoft Windows versions, just remember that it is tolerance of thievery that led to those conditions you don't like. Just because a product can be stolen privately in your home does not make that theft any less a theft. Get up in arms people. Or quit complaining. Thanks, xfile, for doing the right thing here. Dale "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23tZLUIuKHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue][color=green] > >as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever > >will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 > >company.... the perks are wonderful[/color] > > Does that mean you don't have any personal systems at home or you just > used the company's OS for personal systems? > > Do you ever buy toilet papers, pencils, cafe...? > > Maybe pirates don't hurt a company as bad as a stealing employee, but I'm > not sure if you're one of them. But your attitude seems to be one. > > > > "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message > news:eB0AArpKHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green] >> youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. >> get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish will >> be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) and >> youre running vista >> >> as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever >> will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >> company.... the perks are wonderful >> >> :) >> >> >> >> >> >> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >> news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred] >>> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>> >>>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other >>>> in history. >>> >>> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>> >>>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they >>>> all could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre >>>> broke >>> >>> Um, I am not broke. >>> >>>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet. >>> >>> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >>> >>> apparently >>>> theyre doing something right. >>> >>> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>> >>>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>>> Linux) >>> >>> Your opinion and not one I share. >>> >>> i guarantee youre typing these >>>> messages from a Windows OS. >>> >>> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >>> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >>> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >>> >>> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >>> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking forward >>> to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >>> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >>> >>> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, it >>> won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >>> >>> Alias >>>> >>>> >>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security >>>>>> issues? please share them with us >>>>> >>>>> Sure: >>>>> >>>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>>> >>>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy >>>>> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that >>>>> paying customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with >>>>> exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning >>>>> Ubuntu. >>>>> >>>>> Alias >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only >>>>>>> MS sales hype, >>>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than >>>>>>> xp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice >>>>>>> is NOT >>>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>>> days >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>[/color] >>[/color] > >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history It is amazing how many admitted thieves post in these groups. All of those who complain about the burden of DRM and activation or complain about rising costs for Microsoft Windows versions, just remember that it is tolerance of thievery that led to those conditions you don't like. Just because a product can be stolen privately in your home does not make that theft any less a theft. Get up in arms people. Or quit complaining. Thanks, xfile, for doing the right thing here. Dale "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message news:%23tZLUIuKHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue][color=green] > >as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever > >will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 > >company.... the perks are wonderful[/color] > > Does that mean you don't have any personal systems at home or you just > used the company's OS for personal systems? > > Do you ever buy toilet papers, pencils, cafe...? > > Maybe pirates don't hurt a company as bad as a stealing employee, but I'm > not sure if you're one of them. But your attitude seems to be one. > > > > "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message > news:eB0AArpKHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green] >> youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. >> get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish will >> be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) and >> youre running vista >> >> as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever >> will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >> company.... the perks are wonderful >> >> :) >> >> >> >> >> >> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >> news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred] >>> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>> >>>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other >>>> in history. >>> >>> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>> >>>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they >>>> all could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre >>>> broke >>> >>> Um, I am not broke. >>> >>>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet. >>> >>> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >>> >>> apparently >>>> theyre doing something right. >>> >>> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>> >>>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>>> Linux) >>> >>> Your opinion and not one I share. >>> >>> i guarantee youre typing these >>>> messages from a Windows OS. >>> >>> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >>> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >>> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >>> >>> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >>> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking forward >>> to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >>> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >>> >>> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, it >>> won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >>> >>> Alias >>>> >>>> >>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security >>>>>> issues? please share them with us >>>>> >>>>> Sure: >>>>> >>>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>>> >>>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy >>>>> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that >>>>> paying customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with >>>>> exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning >>>>> Ubuntu. >>>>> >>>>> Alias >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only >>>>>>> MS sales hype, >>>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than >>>>>>> xp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice >>>>>>> is NOT >>>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>>> days >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>[/color] >>[/color] > >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history This guy smells vaguely familiar... just like another egomaniacal malcontent that spewed anti-MS screeds... jes' changed his handle, methinks. Lang "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message news:uvBH5poKHHA.4460@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue] > and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can only > assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security issues? > please share them with us > > > > "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message > news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green] >>I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >> >> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >> >> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS >> sales hype, >> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp. >> >> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is NOT >> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days >>[/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history This guy smells vaguely familiar... just like another egomaniacal malcontent that spewed anti-MS screeds... jes' changed his handle, methinks. Lang "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message news:uvBH5poKHHA.4460@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue] > and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can only > assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security issues? > please share them with us > > > > "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message > news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green] >>I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >> >> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >> >> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS >> sales hype, >> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp. >> >> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is NOT >> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days >>[/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history Alias wrote:[color=blue] > Lucvdv wrote:[color=green] > > Prediction: trolls will attack vista newsgroups like no other > > newsgroup in history.[/color] > > Lucvdv's definition of a troll: > > Critic of anything Microsoft.[/color] No, I can be critical of them myself, every now and then. My definition of a troll: someone who willingly posts a message that he knows in advance will start a looong, contentless debate (flame wars are the preferred outcome). Usually they just post the first message and let the thread roll its course, while laughing at those idiots who fall for it all the time. |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history Alias wrote:[color=blue] > Lucvdv wrote:[color=green] > > Prediction: trolls will attack vista newsgroups like no other > > newsgroup in history.[/color] > > Lucvdv's definition of a troll: > > Critic of anything Microsoft.[/color] No, I can be critical of them myself, every now and then. My definition of a troll: someone who willingly posts a message that he knows in advance will start a looong, contentless debate (flame wars are the preferred outcome). Usually they just post the first message and let the thread roll its course, while laughing at those idiots who fall for it all the time. |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history Well, he is posting via Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207). -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message news:efOu0VpKHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue] >a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other in >history. > LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously nothing > nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they all could > have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre broke and MS is > one of the richest corporations on the planet. apparently theyre doing > something right. and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly > pathetic version of Linux) i guarantee youre typing these messages from a > Windows OS. > > > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message > news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green] >> Troy McClure wrote:[color=darkred] >>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can only >>> assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security issues? >>> please share them with us[/color] >> >> Sure: >> >> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >> >> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy >> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that paying >> customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with exploiters >> and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning Ubuntu. >> >> Alias[color=darkred] >>> >>> >>> >>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>> >>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>> >>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS >>>> sales hype, >>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp. >>>> >>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is >>>> NOT >>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days >>>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history Well, he is posting via Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207). -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message news:efOu0VpKHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue] >a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other in >history. > LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously nothing > nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they all could > have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre broke and MS is > one of the richest corporations on the planet. apparently theyre doing > something right. and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly > pathetic version of Linux) i guarantee youre typing these messages from a > Windows OS. > > > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message > news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green] >> Troy McClure wrote:[color=darkred] >>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can only >>> assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security issues? >>> please share them with us[/color] >> >> Sure: >> >> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >> >> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the smarmy >> product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes that paying >> customers should participate in their cat and mouse game with exploiters >> and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning Ubuntu. >> >> Alias[color=darkred] >>> >>> >>> >>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>> >>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>> >>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only MS >>>> sales hype, >>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than xp. >>>> >>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice is >>>> NOT >>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several days >>>> >>>[/color][/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history Thank you for your kind compliment which is too much for me :) "Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message news:uPuvzdvKHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue] > It is amazing how many admitted thieves post in these groups. > > All of those who complain about the burden of DRM and activation or > complain about rising costs for Microsoft Windows versions, just remember > that it is tolerance of thievery that led to those conditions you don't > like. Just because a product can be stolen privately in your home does > not make that theft any less a theft. Get up in arms people. Or quit > complaining. > > Thanks, xfile, for doing the right thing here. > > Dale > > "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23tZLUIuKHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green][color=darkred] >> >as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever >> >will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >> >company.... the perks are wonderful[/color] >> >> Does that mean you don't have any personal systems at home or you just >> used the company's OS for personal systems? >> >> Do you ever buy toilet papers, pencils, cafe...? >> >> Maybe pirates don't hurt a company as bad as a stealing employee, but I'm >> not sure if you're one of them. But your attitude seems to be one. >> >> >> >> "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message >> news:eB0AArpKHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred] >>> youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. >>> get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish >>> will be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) >>> and youre running vista >>> >>> as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever >>> will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >>> company.... the perks are wonderful >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>> news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>>> >>>>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other >>>>> in history. >>>> >>>> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>>> >>>>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>>>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they >>>>> all could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre >>>>> broke >>>> >>>> Um, I am not broke. >>>> >>>>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet. >>>> >>>> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >>>> >>>> apparently >>>>> theyre doing something right. >>>> >>>> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>>> >>>>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>>>> Linux) >>>> >>>> Your opinion and not one I share. >>>> >>>> i guarantee youre typing these >>>>> messages from a Windows OS. >>>> >>>> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >>>> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >>>> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >>>> >>>> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >>>> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking >>>> forward to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >>>> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >>>> >>>> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, >>>> it won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >>>> >>>> Alias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>>>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security >>>>>>> issues? please share them with us >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure: >>>>>> >>>>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>>>> >>>>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the >>>>>> smarmy product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes >>>>>> that paying customers should participate in their cat and mouse game >>>>>> with exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning >>>>>> Ubuntu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alias >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only >>>>>>>> MS sales hype, >>>>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than >>>>>>>> xp. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice >>>>>>>> is NOT >>>>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>[/color] >> >>[/color] >[/color] |
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| Re: prediction: vista will be attacked like no other OS in history Thank you for your kind compliment which is too much for me :) "Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message news:uPuvzdvKHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue] > It is amazing how many admitted thieves post in these groups. > > All of those who complain about the burden of DRM and activation or > complain about rising costs for Microsoft Windows versions, just remember > that it is tolerance of thievery that led to those conditions you don't > like. Just because a product can be stolen privately in your home does > not make that theft any less a theft. Get up in arms people. Or quit > complaining. > > Thanks, xfile, for doing the right thing here. > > Dale > > "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message > news:%23tZLUIuKHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green][color=darkred] >> >as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever >> >will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >> >company.... the perks are wonderful[/color] >> >> Does that mean you don't have any personal systems at home or you just >> used the company's OS for personal systems? >> >> Do you ever buy toilet papers, pencils, cafe...? >> >> Maybe pirates don't hurt a company as bad as a stealing employee, but I'm >> not sure if you're one of them. But your attitude seems to be one. >> >> >> >> "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message >> news:eB0AArpKHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred] >>> youre not broke... cough it up tough guy. >>> get back to me in 6 months... when i guarantee your new linux fetish >>> will be gone (just wait until you see all the things you really CANT do) >>> and youre running vista >>> >>> as for me, ive never paid for an os in my life... dont imagine i ever >>> will either. i recommend everyone get a job with a global Fortune 500 >>> company.... the perks are wonderful >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>> news:OS6DTbpKHHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Troy McClure swaggered in and superciliously wrote: >>>> >>>>> a purported activation crack is hardly a colossal attack like no other >>>>> in history. >>>> >>>> It's just the beginning as you well know. >>>> >>>>> LOL.. i find it hysterical all the people that have very obviously >>>>> nothing nice to ever say about MS or their operating systems... they >>>>> all could have done it better, they all saw this coming... yet youre >>>>> broke >>>> >>>> Um, I am not broke. >>>> >>>>> and MS is one of the richest corporations on the planet. >>>> >>>> So's the mob, Arms Dealers and Hugo Chavez. >>>> >>>> apparently >>>>> theyre doing something right. >>>> >>>> Ripping off customers is "right"? >>>> >>>>> and while youre "learning" Ubuntu (a particularly pathetic version of >>>>> Linux) >>>> >>>> Your opinion and not one I share. >>>> >>>> i guarantee youre typing these >>>>> messages from a Windows OS. >>>> >>>> So? I like XP and, like I said, I am *learning* Ubuntu, which, by the >>>> way, does everything I can do with XP, even watch Windows Media Player >>>> videos on news web sites. And, I might add, MUCH easier to install. >>>> >>>> If it weren't for the obvious disdain that MS has towards it's paying >>>> customers, of which I have been one since 92, I would be looking >>>> forward to Vista instead of learning Ubuntu. The >>>> you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-differently was the last straw. >>>> >>>> After I learn Ubuntu, and if I find another Linux that I like better, >>>> it won't cost me a kidney and a liver to buy it. >>>> >>>> Alias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message >>>>> news:uFhGJ$oKHHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Troy McClure wrote: >>>>>>> and you base this on.... what? to make a statement like that i can >>>>>>> only assume your hacking genius has unearthed several major security >>>>>>> issues? please share them with us >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure: >>>>>> >>>>>> [url]http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36591[/url] >>>>>> >>>>>> And that's just the beginning. A new crack is out to bypass the >>>>>> smarmy product activation nonsense as well. Of course, MS believes >>>>>> that paying customers should participate in their cat and mouse game >>>>>> with exploiters and crackers. I don't and, as a result, I am learning >>>>>> Ubuntu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alias >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eTs7%23doKHHA.448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> I can see it now... a few weeks after its release to the stores... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the hackers will launch a colossal attack like no other in history. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just to show to the world that vista is not really secure, its only >>>>>>>> MS sales hype, >>>>>>>> and that because of its mass and complexity its more venerable than >>>>>>>> xp. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So for those of you that still have a dual boot with XP, my advice >>>>>>>> is NOT >>>>>>>> to remove it for a long time.. or you may face downtime of several >>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>[/color] >> >>[/color] >[/color] |
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