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Old 05-17-2007, 01:50 PM
Tiberius
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Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

[url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]

Yeah... so whadayaknow?
This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
sigh... people are slow to catch on..
and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually LIKE IT!
lol

Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of vista...
Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?

Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care!



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Old 05-17-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

Tiberius wrote:
[color=blue]
> [url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>
> Yeah... so whadayaknow?
> This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
> sigh... people are slow to catch on..
> and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually LIKE IT!
> lol
>
> Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of vista...
> Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?
>
> Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care!
>
>
>[/color]
Uuhhh...again you forgot to actually read the whole article..what's
wrong with you anyway?
Oh I know, you're lonely. Beam your sorry ass out of your mom's basement
and get a real life.
Oh yeah and one more thing, get Vista if you want criticize it, ok!
Frank
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

Its a well known fact that readyboost does very little to actually boost a
computer...

People in here have said their personal experiences with this.. and have
said that it only boost a bit on low memory systems. When I dared to give
advice to someone to try readyboost I had the vistaboys on my back
saying that I was trying to pass off readyboost as a replacement of ram....
Which was not the case of course.... I only said that it was a good idea to
try it if he already had a
readyboost capable flashdrive somewhere.

Frank... try to relax... no need to get upset that I know more about vista
than you do :-)



"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
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> Tiberius wrote:
>[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>>
>> Yeah... so whadayaknow?
>> This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
>> sigh... people are slow to catch on..
>> and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually LIKE IT!
>> lol
>>
>> Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of vista...
>> Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?
>>
>> Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care!
>>
>>
>>[/color]
> Uuhhh...again you forgot to actually read the whole article..what's wrong
> with you anyway?
> Oh I know, you're lonely. Beam your sorry ass out of your mom's basement
> and get a real life.
> Oh yeah and one more thing, get Vista if you want criticize it, ok!
> Frank[/color]


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Old 05-17-2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

If it's a well known fact, then why are you taking up bandwidth?


"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
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> Its a well known fact that readyboost does very little to actually boost a
> computer...
>
> People in here have said their personal experiences with this.. and have
> said that it only boost a bit on low memory systems. When I dared to give
> advice to someone to try readyboost I had the vistaboys on my back
> saying that I was trying to pass off readyboost as a replacement of
> ram....
> Which was not the case of course.... I only said that it was a good idea
> to try it if he already had a
> readyboost capable flashdrive somewhere.
>
> Frank... try to relax... no need to get upset that I know more about vista
> than you do :-)
>
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:%23WRNIbMmHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Tiberius wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> [url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>>>
>>> Yeah... so whadayaknow?
>>> This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
>>> sigh... people are slow to catch on..
>>> and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually LIKE
>>> IT! lol
>>>
>>> Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of vista...
>>> Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?
>>>
>>> Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care!
>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Uuhhh...again you forgot to actually read the whole article..what's wrong
>> with you anyway?
>> Oh I know, you're lonely. Beam your sorry ass out of your mom's basement
>> and get a real life.
>> Oh yeah and one more thing, get Vista if you want criticize it, ok!
>> Frank[/color]
>
>[/color]


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Old 05-17-2007, 02:30 PM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

I think his parole officer said, "Former Captain of the Enterprise", oops,
Tiberius, you need to type. For every message you post, we will take one
day off your incarceration. Isn't there a computer with Ubuntu on it
calling out for some attention?



"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
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> Tiberius wrote:
>[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>>
>> Yeah... so whadayaknow?
>> This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
>> sigh... people are slow to catch on..
>> and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually LIKE IT!
>> lol
>>
>> Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of vista...
>> Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?
>>
>> Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care!
>>
>>
>>[/color]
> Uuhhh...again you forgot to actually read the whole article..what's wrong
> with you anyway?
> Oh I know, you're lonely. Beam your sorry ass out of your mom's basement
> and get a real life.
> Oh yeah and one more thing, get Vista if you want criticize it, ok!
> Frank[/color]


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Old 05-17-2007, 02:40 PM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

Bill Yanaire wrote:

...Isn't there a computer with Ubuntu on it calling out for some
attention?

66666666666666666666666666666666666666666

Great idea Bill!
Send Tiberius over to the urbuttoo ng so's he can do some real damage.
Frank
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:00 PM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

God, your about as smart as a rat with no brain... why don't you get lost...
again!

Nobody cares what you think. NOBODY! Don't you have friends? I'm starting to
think frank is right.

For the love of god, get lost.

Btw, I use it and everything starts up a lot faster than it does without it.


"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
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> [url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>
> Yeah... so whadayaknow?
> This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
> sigh... people are slow to catch on..
> and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually LIKE IT!
> lol
>
> Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of vista...
> Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?
>
> Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care!
>
>
>[/color]


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Old 05-17-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

In message <uWyHvOMmHHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> "Tiberius"
<James@tiberius.kirk> wrote:
[color=blue]
>[url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>
>Yeah... so whadayaknow?
>This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
>sigh... people are slow to catch on..[/color]

ReadyBoost does have a performance impact under a small set of
circumstances.

Try it out on a laptop with minimal RAM, a sub-4000rpm drive, and at
least a 2GB memory stick.

Is it a substitute for RAM? No. On the other hand, with my 2GB
"ReadyBoost compatible" USB memory stick going for under $30, and
additional memory for the laptop going for over $400, the ReadyBoost
solution is worth the hassle of carrying the USB stick around (or in my
case, leaving it connected to the docking station)

(Why so much RAM? I have 2GB already, the next upgrade would be to 4GB.
However, my work requires me to run several virtual machines at once, so
I'm essentially leaving ~350MB of memory for the host OS)

When I don't have an VMs running and have the full 2GB available to me,
there is no performance difference. When I have my 7200rpm drive in
instead of the factory 4300rpm drive, ReadyBoost is probably not worth
the $30. Unfortunately the battery life with the 7200rpm drive is well
under an hour, whereas I can approach 2 hours with the 4300rpm drive (on
an older "desktop replacement" class monster, real P4 chip, real video
card, 17" ultrabright widescreen)

--
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be born in utter poverty and end up a rich white man?
Only in America!
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

"Its a well known fact that Ready Boost does very little..."
"People in here have said..."

Your selective reading is showing again.
People have also said they see significant improvement with Ready
Boost.
However since you have no personal experience with Vista, you can do
little other than quote others and then apparently only those that say
what you want to believe regardless the facts.

Go search for Ready Boost comments and you will see the benefit is
largely dependant on the memory.
Those computers with low memory often see significant improvement
while those with more memory, often see less.
This is normal and expected.

Your typical Windows bashing void of facts.

--
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[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
news:uWyHvOMmHHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> [url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>
> Yeah... so whadayaknow?
> This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM...
> but sigh... people are slow to catch on..
> and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually
> LIKE IT! lol
>
> Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of
> vista...
> Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?
>
> Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care![/color]

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Old 05-18-2007, 01:00 AM
Tiberius
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

Yes what you say in your post is true...

It helps under some circumstances... and its good to know when it will help
or not.


"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:52vp43hedtir20d2lq8jed50djb70fblho@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> In message <uWyHvOMmHHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> "Tiberius"
> <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>[url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>>
>>Yeah... so whadayaknow?
>>This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
>>sigh... people are slow to catch on..[/color]
>
> ReadyBoost does have a performance impact under a small set of
> circumstances.
>
> Try it out on a laptop with minimal RAM, a sub-4000rpm drive, and at
> least a 2GB memory stick.
>
> Is it a substitute for RAM? No. On the other hand, with my 2GB
> "ReadyBoost compatible" USB memory stick going for under $30, and
> additional memory for the laptop going for over $400, the ReadyBoost
> solution is worth the hassle of carrying the USB stick around (or in my
> case, leaving it connected to the docking station)
>
> (Why so much RAM? I have 2GB already, the next upgrade would be to 4GB.
> However, my work requires me to run several virtual machines at once, so
> I'm essentially leaving ~350MB of memory for the host OS)
>
> When I don't have an VMs running and have the full 2GB available to me,
> there is no performance difference. When I have my 7200rpm drive in
> instead of the factory 4300rpm drive, ReadyBoost is probably not worth
> the $30. Unfortunately the battery life with the 7200rpm drive is well
> under an hour, whereas I can approach 2 hours with the 4300rpm drive (on
> an older "desktop replacement" class monster, real P4 chip, real video
> card, 17" ultrabright widescreen)
>
> --
> We know America is a great nation! Where else could a poor black boy
> be born in utter poverty and end up a rich white man?
> Only in America![/color]


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Old 05-18-2007, 01:00 AM
Tiberius
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

I did say that it improves performance on low memory systems and that I even
advised people
to try it. And you accuse ME of selective reading? LOL

Jupiter.. you have no way of knowing how much I know about vista, your
conclusions are false.
I know more about vista than probably you do and surely more than most
people in here.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:%23vHBNpOmHHA.3980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Its a well known fact that Ready Boost does very little..."
> "People in here have said..."
>
> Your selective reading is showing again.
> People have also said they see significant improvement with Ready Boost.
> However since you have no personal experience with Vista, you can do
> little other than quote others and then apparently only those that say
> what you want to believe regardless the facts.
>
> Go search for Ready Boost comments and you will see the benefit is largely
> dependant on the memory.
> Those computers with low memory often see significant improvement while
> those with more memory, often see less.
> This is normal and expected.
>
> Your typical Windows bashing void of facts.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>
>
> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
> news:uWyHvOMmHHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>>
>> Yeah... so whadayaknow?
>> This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
>> sigh... people are slow to catch on..
>> and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually LIKE IT!
>> lol
>>
>> Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of vista...
>> Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?
>>
>> Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care![/color]
>[/color]


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Old 05-18-2007, 10:00 AM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

"I know more about vista than probably..."
You do little to display that since you spend your time bashing and
FALSELY calling people liars and little with facts.
Coupled with your cowardly need to often change your name in a vain
attempt to hide from your previous wrong information completes your
true character.

--
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[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
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>I did say that it improves performance on low memory systems and that
>I even advised people
> to try it. And you accuse ME of selective reading? LOL
>
> Jupiter.. you have no way of knowing how much I know about vista,
> your conclusions are false.
> I know more about vista than probably you do and surely more than
> most people in here.[/color]

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Old 05-18-2007, 10:50 AM
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Re: Readyboost doesnt do much (not a surprise)

Much confusion about ReadyBoost - first the performance of ReadyBoost does
not depend upon amount of memory - the major factor that determines
performance is the HD index. If the index is "5" or better there is little
page performance - HDs with an index lowerthan 5 have perforamnce boosts -
reason why ReadyBost is more effective in laptops.

Another factor is the type of read/writes - With sequential read/writes
Superfetch utilizes the HD (Page file) -ReadyBoost is the target for
non-sequential stuff - so performance also depends on Superfetch action.

Also there are three "Ready----" utilities - besides ReadyBoost there is
ReadyDrive - name of the other escapes me - all with different goals but
interact with each other. ReadyBoost, over a period of time nonitors Vista
startup and initial application starts and "gradually" decreases bootup
time.

Last but not least - there is a ReadyBoost cache whether or not you use an
exteranl memory device. Data sent to the device cannot be "explored" or
accessed normally - it is encrypted - the puropose of encryption is to
protect data that may be left stored after removal,of the device.

"Julie Smith" <someone@home.com> wrote in message
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> God, your about as smart as a rat with no brain... why don't you get
> lost... again!
>
> Nobody cares what you think. NOBODY! Don't you have friends? I'm starting
> to think frank is right.
>
> For the love of god, get lost.
>
> Btw, I use it and everything starts up a lot faster than it does without
> it.
>
>
> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
> news:uWyHvOMmHHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> [url]http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019742[/url]
>>
>> Yeah... so whadayaknow?
>> This is NOT news to me .... lol I knew it before vista was RTM... but
>> sigh... people are slow to catch on..
>> and vistaboys never catch on! Proof? They use vista and actually LIKE IT!
>> lol
>>
>> Readyboost is an effort to counter effect the sloppy coding of vista...
>> Why not make it leaner in the first place by good design?
>>
>> Well I know why... it COSTS more to design something with care!
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]


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Old 05-18-2007, 02:20 PM
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In message <#17y6RXmHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> "AJR"
<ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Much confusion about ReadyBoost - first the performance of ReadyBoost does
>not depend upon amount of memory - the major factor that determines
>performance is the HD index. If the index is "5" or better there is little
>page performance - HDs with an index lowerthan 5 have perforamnce boosts -
>reason why ReadyBost is more effective in laptops.[/color]

Amount of memory AND drive performance, really.

If you have an excess of unused memory, SuperFetch will preload data
into RAM, which is even faster then ReadyBoost. Of course ReadyBoost
won't get dumped as you load more programs and need the RAM.

--
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day of training, with me"
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:30 PM
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"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
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> Its a well known fact that readyboost does very little to actually boost a
> computer...[/color]

Well known to who? I've seen it work very well on systems with 1GB and
less. Many others have as well. If it doesn't work well on a specific
system then don't waste the flash drive.

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