Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now ?

I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the same PC),
I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it tells me I'm
not genuine. When I try to go through the process of activating (as
suggested) it says it's already activated, but then goes back to not being
Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web links I follow tells me I need
to activate first.

I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating, which I
don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech support, since
it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few months.

Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and see if
anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process today. If so, I'll
just boot back to XP and try again later this week

Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office 2003
installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64 it
tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on Vista 32
and XP.

I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product key,
which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a way to make
windows un-activated, so I can go through the full activate process and
hopefully get this going again

Thanks

Do you realize Dale that the same product key can not be used for an install
of both 64 bit and 32 bit Vista. The key is for one or the other.

Maybe that is what is throwing you a monkey wrench. They validated OK, but
that was some time ago I presume. Now one of them will not pass WGA because
the key is seen as being used already. A long shot, but this is what may be
happening.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now ?
>
> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the same
> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it tells
> me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of activating (as
> suggested) it says it's already activated, but then goes back to not being
> Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web links I follow tells me I
> need to activate first.
>
> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating, which I
> don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech support,
> since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few months.
>
> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and see
> if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process today. If so,
> I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>
> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office 2003
> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64 it
> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on Vista
> 32 and XP.
>
> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product key,
> which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a way to
> make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full activate process
> and hopefully get this going again
>
> Thanks[/color]

Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN keys.
Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now ?
>
> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the same
> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it tells
> me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of activating (as
> suggested) it says it's already activated, but then goes back to not being
> Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web links I follow tells me I
> need to activate first.
>
> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating, which I
> don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech support,
> since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few months.
>
> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and see
> if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process today. If so,
> I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>
> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office 2003
> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64 it
> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on Vista
> 32 and XP.
>
> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product key,
> which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a way to
> make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full activate process
> and hopefully get this going again
>
> Thanks[/color]

After serious thinking Richard Urban wrote :[color=blue]
> Do you realize Dale that the same product key can not be used for an install
> of both 64 bit and 32 bit Vista. The key is for one or the other.
>
> Maybe that is what is throwing you a monkey wrench. They validated OK, but
> that was some time ago I presume. Now one of them will not pass WGA because
> the key is seen as being used already. A long shot, but this is what may be
> happening.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now ?
>>
>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the same
>> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it tells
>> me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of activating (as
>> suggested) it says it's already activated, but then goes back to not being
>> Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web links I follow tells me I
>> need to activate first.
>>
>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating, which I
>> don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech support, since
>> it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few months.
>>
>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and see
>> if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process today. If so,
>> I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>>
>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office 2003
>> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64 it
>> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on Vista
>> 32 and XP.
>>
>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product key,
>> which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a way to
>> make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full activate process
>> and hopefully get this going again
>>
>> Thanks[/color][/color]

I'm pretty sure you get 10 simultaneous activations with the MSDN
subscriptions. I don't think that's the issue.

--

Mike Matheny

Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.

Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why now it
would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could probably format
re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.

I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after your
did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN keys.
> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now ?
>>
>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the same
>> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it
>> tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of
>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then goes
>> back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web links I
>> follow tells me I need to activate first.
>>
>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating, which I
>> don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech support,
>> since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few
>> months.
>>
>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and see
>> if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process today. If
>> so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>>
>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office 2003
>> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64 it
>> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on Vista
>> 32 and XP.
>>
>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product
>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a way
>> to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full activate
>> process and hopefully get this going again
>>
>> Thanks[/color]
>[/color]

Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update? Was it
for Silicon Image chipset?



--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
>
> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why now
> it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could probably
> format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.
>
> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after your
> did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN keys.
>> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now ?
>>>
>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the same
>>> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it
>>> tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of
>>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then goes
>>> back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web links I
>>> follow tells me I need to activate first.
>>>
>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating, which
>>> I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech support,
>>> since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few
>>> months.
>>>
>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and
>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process today.
>>> If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>>>
>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office 2003
>>> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64 it
>>> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on
>>> Vista 32 and XP.
>>>
>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product
>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a
>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full activate
>>> process and hopefully get this going again
>>>
>>> Thanks[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Yes, I did, but it was the Nforce 4 Sata driver, At which time, it re-added
(found new hardware) the Western Digital Raptor drive, which is where XP is
intalled (and is the primary boot drive) My Vista installs are on a separate
maxtor drive but same controller

I ran that same update on Vista 32 and it also re-added the WD drive.

You thinking that somehow screwed up the hard drive IDs, making it appear
that I switch drives or its on a new system ?

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update? Was
> it for Silicon Image chipset?
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
>>
>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why now
>> it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could probably
>> format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.
>>
>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN keys.
>>> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now ?
>>>>
>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the same
>>>> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it
>>>> tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of
>>>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then goes
>>>> back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web links I
>>>> follow tells me I need to activate first.
>>>>
>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating, which
>>>> I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech support,
>>>> since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few
>>>> months.
>>>>
>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and
>>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process today.
>>>> If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>>>>
>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office 2003
>>>> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64 it
>>>> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on
>>>> Vista 32 and XP.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product
>>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a
>>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full activate
>>>> process and hopefully get this going again
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

:: Shakes fists at Microsoft !! :::

Your hunch was correct Richard, after a little dorking around, I was able to
reload the original Nvidia Vista drivers (ver 15.00) for my motherboard,
namely the SMbus and now Vista 64 is all happy again

This also makes sense of something I was wondering about, My GF's system
also uses a Nforce 4 board and I also applied all the updates to her system
and I noticed yesterday, that she was getting a "You must activate your
windows" message. She's been using this system for about 3 months now. I'm
guessing since that system is running the Vista Enterprise edition with a VL
key, that is why it didn't have a problem with re-activating\Validating. I
was wondering why she got that message out of the blue, since it was a VL
install and we didn't make any hardware changes.

Guess I'll think twice before applying those "optional" updates. Though it's
a bit strange and I think MS needs to loosen up that WGA grip, if loading a
driver can cause Windows to become invalid, especially when it's their
driver (well kind of I guess)


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update? Was
> it for Silicon Image chipset?
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
>>
>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why now
>> it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could probably
>> format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.
>>
>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN keys.
>>> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now ?
>>>>
>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the same
>>>> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it
>>>> tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of
>>>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then goes
>>>> back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web links I
>>>> follow tells me I need to activate first.
>>>>
>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating, which
>>>> I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech support,
>>>> since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few
>>>> months.
>>>>
>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and
>>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process today.
>>>> If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>>>>
>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office 2003
>>>> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64 it
>>>> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on
>>>> Vista 32 and XP.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product
>>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a
>>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full activate
>>>> process and hopefully get this going again
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Hello Dale,
Then it should show as not-activated
Open an Elevated CMD prompt:
run slmgr -dlv all
Report back the output.

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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|>Yes, I did, but it was the Nforce 4 Sata driver, At which time, it
re-added
|>(found new hardware) the Western Digital Raptor drive, which is where XP
is
|>intalled (and is the primary boot drive) My Vista installs are on a
separate
|>maxtor drive but same controller
|>
|>I ran that same update on Vista 32 and it also re-added the WD drive.
|>
|>You thinking that somehow screwed up the hard drive IDs, making it appear
|>that I switch drives or its on a new system ?
|>
|>"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
|>news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|>> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update?
Was
|>> it for Silicon Image chipset?
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>> --
|>>
|>>
|>> Regards,
|>>
|>> Richard Urban
|>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
|>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
|>>
|>> Quote from George Ankner:
|>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
|>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
|>>
|>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
|>> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|>>>
|>>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
|>>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
|>>>
|>>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why
now
|>>> it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could probably
|>>> format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.
|>>>
|>>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
|>>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
|>>>
|>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
|>>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|>>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN
keys.
|>>>> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
|>>>> --
|>>>>
|>>>>
|>>>> Regards,
|>>>>
|>>>> Richard Urban
|>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
|>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
|>>>>
|>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
|>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
|>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
|>>>>
|>>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
|>>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|>>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right
now ?
|>>>>>
|>>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the
same
|>>>>> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and it
|>>>>> tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of
|>>>>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then
goes
|>>>>> back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web
links I
|>>>>> follow tells me I need to activate first.
|>>>>>
|>>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating,
which
|>>>>> I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech
support,
|>>>>> since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few
|>>>>> months.
|>>>>>
|>>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in
and
|>>>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process
today.
|>>>>> If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
|>>>>>
|>>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
|>>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office
2003
|>>>>> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista 64
it
|>>>>> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on
|>>>>> Vista 32 and XP.
|>>>>>
|>>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my
Product
|>>>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there
a
|>>>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full
activate
|>>>>> process and hopefully get this going again
|>>>>>
|>>>>> Thanks
|>>>>
|>>>
|>>
|>
|>
|>

Well, I have a screenshot that says it's activated, but it doesn't have the
"Not Genuine" pop-up in it, so I'm guessing that won't do you any good.

As you might have seen from my other post, I was able to fix the problem, by
reverting to the previous driver. But I'm more then willing to try and break
it again, if you can tell me how to get the Windowsupdate driver to install
again.

This is the driver that showed loaded
NVIDIA Corporation - Storage - NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller

Installation date: ?5/?12/?2007 8:59 AM
Installation status: Successful
Update type: Optional
NVIDIA Corporation Storage software update released in December, 2006
More information:
[url]http://winqual.microsoft.com/support/?driverid=20028236[/url]

Since it shows successfully downloaded\installed, I'm guessing that's why
I'm not getting the option to re-install it again. And I don't see an option
to un-install it from the "Installed Updates" window




""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:K51hbdBmHHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hello Dale,
> Then it should show as not-activated
> Open an Elevated CMD prompt:
> run slmgr -dlv all
> Report back the output.
>
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
> |>From: "Dale White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom>
> |>References: <OalYk6#lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
> <eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
> <OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
> <etx#BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> |>Subject: Re: Vista 64 says it's activated, but not genuine
> |>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:59:45 -0400
> |>Lines: 98
> |>X-Priority: 3
> |>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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> |>Message-ID: <u4tQm3AmHHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
> |>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>NNTP-Posting-Host: 74-128-108-121.dhcp.insightbb.com 74.128.108.121
> |>Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
> |>Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:102512
> |>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>
> |>
> |>Yes, I did, but it was the Nforce 4 Sata driver, At which time, it
> re-added
> |>(found new hardware) the Western Digital Raptor drive, which is where XP
> is
> |>intalled (and is the primary boot drive) My Vista installs are on a
> separate
> |>maxtor drive but same controller
> |>
> |>I ran that same update on Vista 32 and it also re-added the WD drive.
> |>
> |>You thinking that somehow screwed up the hard drive IDs, making it
> appear
> |>that I switch drives or its on a new system ?
> |>
> |>"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> |>news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> |>> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update?
> Was
> |>> it for Silicon Image chipset?
> |>>
> |>>
> |>>
> |>> --
> |>>
> |>>
> |>> Regards,
> |>>
> |>> Richard Urban
> |>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> |>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
> |>>
> |>> Quote from George Ankner:
> |>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> |>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> |>>
> |>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
> |>> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |>>>
> |>>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
> |>>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
> |>>>
> |>>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why
> now
> |>>> it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could
> probably
> |>>> format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.
> |>>>
> |>>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
> |>>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
> |>>>
> |>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> |>>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |>>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN
> keys.
> |>>>> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
> |>>>> --
> |>>>>
> |>>>>
> |>>>> Regards,
> |>>>>
> |>>>> Richard Urban
> |>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> |>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
> |>>>>
> |>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
> |>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> |>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
> |>>>>
> |>>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
> |>>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |>>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right
> now ?
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the
> same
> |>>>>> PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and
> it
> |>>>>> tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of
> |>>>>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then
> goes
> |>>>>> back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web
> links I
> |>>>>> follow tells me I need to activate first.
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating,
> which
> |>>>>> I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech
> support,
> |>>>>> since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for a few
> |>>>>> months.
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in
> and
> |>>>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process
> today.
> |>>>>> If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product
> key)
> |>>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office
> 2003
> |>>>>> installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista
> 64
> it
> |>>>>> tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine on
> |>>>>> Vista 32 and XP.
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my
> Product
> |>>>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there
> a
> |>>>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full
> activate
> |>>>>> process and hopefully get this going again
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>> Thanks
> |>>>>
> |>>>
> |>>
> |>
> |>
> |>
>[/color]

When I updated the SATA driver for my nForce 2 M/B (Silicon Image chipset)
the exact same thing happened. Even though the system was showing as
activated it failed WGA repeatedly. I was not given an opportunity to
reactivate.

I went back to a previous TrueImage system image that I had created the day
prior. Just for the heck of it I tried it again with the same results. I was
not able to repair the damage done.

I again went back to the previous image. Then I his the offending driver so
I would not be tempted to install it, yet again.




--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Dale White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
news:u4tQm3AmHHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> Yes, I did, but it was the Nforce 4 Sata driver, At which time, it
> re-added (found new hardware) the Western Digital Raptor drive, which is
> where XP is intalled (and is the primary boot drive) My Vista installs are
> on a separate maxtor drive but same controller
>
> I ran that same update on Vista 32 and it also re-added the WD drive.
>
> You thinking that somehow screwed up the hard drive IDs, making it appear
> that I switch drives or its on a new system ?
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update? Was
>> it for Silicon Image chipset?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
>>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
>>>
>>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why now
>>> it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could probably
>>> format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
>>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN keys.
>>>> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>
>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>>
>>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the
>>>>> same PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and
>>>>> it tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of
>>>>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then
>>>>> goes back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web
>>>>> links I follow tells me I need to activate first.
>>>>>
>>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating,
>>>>> which I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech
>>>>> support, since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for
>>>>> a few months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and
>>>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process
>>>>> today. If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>>>>>
>>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office
>>>>> 2003 installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista
>>>>> 64 it tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine
>>>>> on Vista 32 and XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product
>>>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a
>>>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full
>>>>> activate process and hopefully get this going again
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

The problem is this, I believe. When the new SATA driver is installed, and
you reboot, the O/S thinks that you have installed it to a new drive. I read
somewhere that a new drive is worth 10 points toward a time out. The bigger
problem is that you are not allowed to correct for the condition.

I have posted about this same problem extensively about 3-5 weeks ago when
it first happen to me.

I wish someone from M/S would contact me so that we can work this out. I see
many getting tapped by this update.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
news:e4qfWQBmHHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> :: Shakes fists at Microsoft !! :::
>
> Your hunch was correct Richard, after a little dorking around, I was able
> to reload the original Nvidia Vista drivers (ver 15.00) for my
> motherboard, namely the SMbus and now Vista 64 is all happy again
>
> This also makes sense of something I was wondering about, My GF's system
> also uses a Nforce 4 board and I also applied all the updates to her
> system and I noticed yesterday, that she was getting a "You must activate
> your windows" message. She's been using this system for about 3 months
> now. I'm guessing since that system is running the Vista Enterprise
> edition with a VL key, that is why it didn't have a problem with
> re-activating\Validating. I was wondering why she got that message out of
> the blue, since it was a VL install and we didn't make any hardware
> changes.
>
> Guess I'll think twice before applying those "optional" updates. Though
> it's a bit strange and I think MS needs to loosen up that WGA grip, if
> loading a driver can cause Windows to become invalid, especially when it's
> their driver (well kind of I guess)
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update? Was
>> it for Silicon Image chipset?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
>>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
>>>
>>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why now
>>> it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could probably
>>> format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
>>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN keys.
>>>> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>
>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>>
>>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the
>>>>> same PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today and
>>>>> it tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process of
>>>>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then
>>>>> goes back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web
>>>>> links I follow tells me I need to activate first.
>>>>>
>>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating,
>>>>> which I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech
>>>>> support, since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for
>>>>> a few months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and
>>>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process
>>>>> today. If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>>>>>
>>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office
>>>>> 2003 installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under Vista
>>>>> 64 it tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes fine
>>>>> on Vista 32 and XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product
>>>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a
>>>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full
>>>>> activate process and hopefully get this going again
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Maybe you should reply to Darrell Gorter[MSFT] message.

I'm trying to reproduce the problem, but since I don't have an image to
restore. I'm not having much luck getting it to fail again. Wish there was a
way I could manual download and install that driver it's using.

I would have to think, with 40 million copies sold (Bill's numbers, not
mine), more than you and I are getting bit by this.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:%23rJPZcCmHHA.4768@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> The problem is this, I believe. When the new SATA driver is installed, and
> you reboot, the O/S thinks that you have installed it to a new drive. I
> read somewhere that a new drive is worth 10 points toward a time out. The
> bigger problem is that you are not allowed to correct for the condition.
>
> I have posted about this same problem extensively about 3-5 weeks ago when
> it first happen to me.
>
> I wish someone from M/S would contact me so that we can work this out. I
> see many getting tapped by this update.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
> news:e4qfWQBmHHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> :: Shakes fists at Microsoft !! :::
>>
>> Your hunch was correct Richard, after a little dorking around, I was able
>> to reload the original Nvidia Vista drivers (ver 15.00) for my
>> motherboard, namely the SMbus and now Vista 64 is all happy again
>>
>> This also makes sense of something I was wondering about, My GF's system
>> also uses a Nforce 4 board and I also applied all the updates to her
>> system and I noticed yesterday, that she was getting a "You must activate
>> your windows" message. She's been using this system for about 3 months
>> now. I'm guessing since that system is running the Vista Enterprise
>> edition with a VL key, that is why it didn't have a problem with
>> re-activating\Validating. I was wondering why she got that message out of
>> the blue, since it was a VL install and we didn't make any hardware
>> changes.
>>
>> Guess I'll think twice before applying those "optional" updates. Though
>> it's a bit strange and I think MS needs to loosen up that WGA grip, if
>> loading a driver can cause Windows to become invalid, especially when
>> it's their driver (well kind of I guess)
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>> news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update? Was
>>> it for Silicon Image chipset?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>>> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
>>>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
>>>>
>>>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why
>>>> now it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could
>>>> probably format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the
>>>> moment.
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
>>>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN
>>>>> keys. Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>>
>>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right now
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the
>>>>>> same PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today
>>>>>> and it tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process
>>>>>> of activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then
>>>>>> goes back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the web
>>>>>> links I follow tells me I need to activate first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating,
>>>>>> which I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech
>>>>>> support, since it's saying it's already activated and has been so for
>>>>>> a few months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in and
>>>>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process
>>>>>> today. If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this week
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>>>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office
>>>>>> 2003 installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under
>>>>>> Vista 64 it tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it
>>>>>> passes fine on Vista 32 and XP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my Product
>>>>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there a
>>>>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full
>>>>>> activate process and hopefully get this going again
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

A manual install causes the same problem.

I am in the process of rebuilding my system in trouble shooting yet another
problem (the KB931768 I.E. security update from 5/8/07). I installed all the
updated drivers before I first reactivated the system. This way it will not
cause me a future problem.

If you have no discernable problem with your installation - refrain from
updating drivers, especially if they have to do with the disk subsystem.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
news:uypRwmCmHHA.4960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Maybe you should reply to Darrell Gorter[MSFT] message.
>
> I'm trying to reproduce the problem, but since I don't have an image to
> restore. I'm not having much luck getting it to fail again. Wish there was
> a way I could manual download and install that driver it's using.
>
> I would have to think, with 40 million copies sold (Bill's numbers, not
> mine), more than you and I are getting bit by this.
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:%23rJPZcCmHHA.4768@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> The problem is this, I believe. When the new SATA driver is installed,
>> and you reboot, the O/S thinks that you have installed it to a new drive.
>> I read somewhere that a new drive is worth 10 points toward a time out.
>> The bigger problem is that you are not allowed to correct for the
>> condition.
>>
>> I have posted about this same problem extensively about 3-5 weeks ago
>> when it first happen to me.
>>
>> I wish someone from M/S would contact me so that we can work this out. I
>> see many getting tapped by this update.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>> news:e4qfWQBmHHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> :: Shakes fists at Microsoft !! :::
>>>
>>> Your hunch was correct Richard, after a little dorking around, I was
>>> able to reload the original Nvidia Vista drivers (ver 15.00) for my
>>> motherboard, namely the SMbus and now Vista 64 is all happy again
>>>
>>> This also makes sense of something I was wondering about, My GF's system
>>> also uses a Nforce 4 board and I also applied all the updates to her
>>> system and I noticed yesterday, that she was getting a "You must
>>> activate your windows" message. She's been using this system for about 3
>>> months now. I'm guessing since that system is running the Vista
>>> Enterprise edition with a VL key, that is why it didn't have a problem
>>> with re-activating\Validating. I was wondering why she got that message
>>> out of the blue, since it was a VL install and we didn't make any
>>> hardware changes.
>>>
>>> Guess I'll think twice before applying those "optional" updates. Though
>>> it's a bit strange and I think MS needs to loosen up that WGA grip, if
>>> loading a driver can cause Windows to become invalid, especially when
>>> it's their driver (well kind of I guess)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update?
>>>> Was it for Silicon Image chipset?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>
>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>>
>>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>>>> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
>>>>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why
>>>>> now it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could
>>>>> probably format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the
>>>>> moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
>>>>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN
>>>>>> keys. Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right
>>>>>>> now ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the
>>>>>>> same PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today
>>>>>>> and it tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the
>>>>>>> process of activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated,
>>>>>>> but then goes back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts,
>>>>>>> as the web links I follow tells me I need to activate first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating,
>>>>>>> which I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS tech
>>>>>>> support, since it's saying it's already activated and has been so
>>>>>>> for a few months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in
>>>>>>> and see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process
>>>>>>> today. If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this
>>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product key)
>>>>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office
>>>>>>> 2003 installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under
>>>>>>> Vista 64 it tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it
>>>>>>> passes fine on Vista 32 and XP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my
>>>>>>> Product key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation.
>>>>>>> Is there a way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the
>>>>>>> full activate process and hopefully get this going again
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Hello,
Did you do phone activation on these machines or was this internet
activated?
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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|>From: "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com>
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|>When I updated the SATA driver for my nForce 2 M/B (Silicon Image
chipset)
|>the exact same thing happened. Even though the system was showing as
|>activated it failed WGA repeatedly. I was not given an opportunity to
|>reactivate.
|>
|>I went back to a previous TrueImage system image that I had created the
day
|>prior. Just for the heck of it I tried it again with the same results. I
was
|>not able to repair the damage done.
|>
|>I again went back to the previous image. Then I his the offending driver
so
|>I would not be tempted to install it, yet again.
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>--
|>
|>
|>Regards,
|>
|>Richard Urban
|>Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
|>(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
|>
|>Quote from George Ankner:
|>If you knew as much as you think you know,
|>You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
|>
|>"Dale White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
|>news:u4tQm3AmHHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|>>
|>> Yes, I did, but it was the Nforce 4 Sata driver, At which time, it
|>> re-added (found new hardware) the Western Digital Raptor drive, which
is
|>> where XP is intalled (and is the primary boot drive) My Vista installs
are
|>> on a separate maxtor drive but same controller
|>>
|>> I ran that same update on Vista 32 and it also re-added the WD drive.
|>>
|>> You thinking that somehow screwed up the hard drive IDs, making it
appear
|>> that I switch drives or its on a new system ?
|>>
|>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
|>> news:etx%23BzAmHHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|>>> Did you "just recently" update the SATA driver from Windows Update?
Was
|>>> it for Silicon Image chipset?
|>>>
|>>>
|>>>
|>>> --
|>>>
|>>>
|>>> Regards,
|>>>
|>>> Richard Urban
|>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
|>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
|>>>
|>>> Quote from George Ankner:
|>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
|>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
|>>>
|>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
|>>> news:OVTi5W$lHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|>>>>
|>>>> Yeah, like Mike stated in his Post, It's suppose to be good for 10
|>>>> activations, so I'm guessing, I would still have 8 left.
|>>>>
|>>>> Oddly enough, this has been my config since Feb, so I don't know why
now
|>>>> it would suddenly be a problem. I have a feeling that I could
probably
|>>>> format re-install and fix it, but I'm being lazy at the moment.
|>>>>
|>>>> I'm hoping to find out a eaiser fix, like the one you found out after
|>>>> your did a format re-install to resolve the spybot IE7 update issue.
|>>>>
|>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
|>>>> news:eIGsJF$lHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|>>>>> Shucks, Delayed reaction. I just realized that you are using MSDN
keys.
|>>>>> Don't know if this would enter into the mix after all.
|>>>>> --
|>>>>>
|>>>>>
|>>>>> Regards,
|>>>>>
|>>>>> Richard Urban
|>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
|>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
|>>>>>
|>>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
|>>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
|>>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
|>>>>>
|>>>>> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
|>>>>> news:OalYk6%23lHHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|>>>>>> Is there any bug(s) floating around with the Activation\WGA right
now
|>>>>>> ?
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> I've got the MSDN version of Vista32 and Vista64 installed (on the
|>>>>>> same PC), I used it on Monday and all was well) Booted to it today
and
|>>>>>> it tells me I'm not genuine. When I try to go through the process
of
|>>>>>> activating (as suggested) it says it's already activated, but then
|>>>>>> goes back to not being Genuine. I get in a loop of sorts, as the
web
|>>>>>> links I follow tells me I need to activate first.
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> I called the 800 MS support number, but that was for activating,
|>>>>>> which I don't get the option to do, so the fellow sent me to MS
tech
|>>>>>> support, since it's saying it's already activated and has been so
for
|>>>>>> a few months.
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> Before I spend a lot of energy on this, I thought I would peak in
and
|>>>>>> see if anyone else is having oddness with the Validation process
|>>>>>> today. If so, I'll just boot back to XP and try again later this
week
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> Oddly enough, the Vista 32 install (which uses the same product
key)
|>>>>>> Validates just fine. Also odd, is on the V64 machine I have office
|>>>>>> 2003 installed, which is uses our Corporate VL license and under
Vista
|>>>>>> 64 it tells me that License as been revoked, but again, it passes
fine
|>>>>>> on Vista 32 and XP.
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> I tried the obvious of telling Vista, I wanted to re-enter my
Product
|>>>>>> key, which works (or is accepted) but still no validation. Is there
a
|>>>>>> way to make windows un-activated, so I can go through the full
|>>>>>> activate process and hopefully get this going again
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> Thanks
|>>>>>
|>>>>
|>>>
|>>
|>>
|>
|>