"Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:43F6AAEC-0DE3-4129-9CDE-CB2784181045@microsoft.com...
> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either
> in
> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows?

- WinFS (I've read somewhere that Ballmer is planning it for SP1 so I hope
it's true and WinFS is not completely dumped as distinct technology)
- PowerShell available out of the box - absolute must for broad adoption.
(hopefully it will be part of SP1)
- WMDC available out of the box
- 'Problem Reports and Solutions' improvements (ditto to David)
- Taskbar icon for winver, for Christ sake LOL. Current generic icon looks
just soo lame...

I swear there was much more but that's what I can think of off the top of my
head.


As a side note, I don't think we should expect/ask for things like advanced
backup solutions. That's what ISV are for. It was always that way with
Windows: If you need just basic functionality, use builtin tool, otherwise
buy advanced product from Microsoft or third party ISV.

--
Alexander Suhovey

"Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:43F6AAEC-0DE3-4129-9CDE-CB2784181045@microsoft.com...
> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either
> in
> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows?

- WinFS (I've read somewhere that Ballmer is planning it for SP1 so I hope
it's true and WinFS is not completely dumped as distinct technology)
- PowerShell available out of the box - absolute must for broad adoption.
(hopefully it will be part of SP1)
- WMDC available out of the box
- 'Problem Reports and Solutions' improvements (ditto to David)
- Taskbar icon for winver, for Christ sake LOL. Current generic icon looks
just soo lame...

I swear there was much more but that's what I can think of off the top of my
head.


As a side note, I don't think we should expect/ask for things like advanced
backup solutions. That's what ISV are for. It was always that way with
Windows: If you need just basic functionality, use builtin tool, otherwise
buy advanced product from Microsoft or third party ISV.

--
Alexander Suhovey

Tom,
Strongly encourage users for Installing BitLocker Setup “Off-line� using 256
Encryption before the user installs -any- third party applications is of
utmost importance for protecting Vista’s OS Protected System Source Code. The
previous statement was learned the difficult method…

And what a marvelous learning experience; realizing the incredibly Safety
and Security provided by the most Secure OS on the Globe that will soon
revolutionize the computer industry!

Again, the above will significantly reduce users from telephoning Microsoft
Tech Support; secondary to user induced application conflicts.

If Vista prepared morning coffee and other household chores that would be
nice…

--
Firewall


"Tom Ziegmann" wrote:

> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either in
> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please post
> here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use it
> and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>
> --
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>

Tom,
Strongly encourage users for Installing BitLocker Setup “Off-line� using 256
Encryption before the user installs -any- third party applications is of
utmost importance for protecting Vista’s OS Protected System Source Code. The
previous statement was learned the difficult method…

And what a marvelous learning experience; realizing the incredibly Safety
and Security provided by the most Secure OS on the Globe that will soon
revolutionize the computer industry!

Again, the above will significantly reduce users from telephoning Microsoft
Tech Support; secondary to user induced application conflicts.

If Vista prepared morning coffee and other household chores that would be
nice…

--
Firewall


"Tom Ziegmann" wrote:

> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either in
> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please post
> here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use it
> and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>
> --
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>

Tom,
Perhaps we users, when in need of MS Tech Support, are too accustomed for
being spoon fed by Microsoft that we neglect to fully read the Setup and Help
Instructions before telephoning Microsoft.

If there is a better method for enticing users for simply and merely taking
a few minutes for reading Vista’s Setup Instructions, and provided Help
Instructions, the self-learning experience would exceed advantageous for
users and Microsoft.

--
Firewall


"Tom Ziegmann" wrote:

> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either in
> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please post
> here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use it
> and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>
> --
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>

Tom,
Perhaps we users, when in need of MS Tech Support, are too accustomed for
being spoon fed by Microsoft that we neglect to fully read the Setup and Help
Instructions before telephoning Microsoft.

If there is a better method for enticing users for simply and merely taking
a few minutes for reading Vista’s Setup Instructions, and provided Help
Instructions, the self-learning experience would exceed advantageous for
users and Microsoft.

--
Firewall


"Tom Ziegmann" wrote:

> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either in
> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please post
> here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use it
> and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>
> --
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>

I hear that with the next version of Microsoft Operations Manager (MOM)
you'll be able to order take-out, it will do you laundry for you, and pick
up the kids from school. :)

--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
"FireWall2" <FireWall2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D824F3CA-D65B-4125-B873-22D477741EA8@microsoft.com...
> Tom,
> Strongly encourage users for Installing BitLocker Setup “Off-line� using
> 256
> Encryption before the user installs -any- third party applications is of
> utmost importance for protecting Vista’s OS Protected System Source Code.
> The
> previous statement was learned the difficult method…
>
> And what a marvelous learning experience; realizing the incredibly Safety
> and Security provided by the most Secure OS on the Globe that will soon
> revolutionize the computer industry!
>
> Again, the above will significantly reduce users from telephoning
> Microsoft
> Tech Support; secondary to user induced application conflicts.
>
> If Vista prepared morning coffee and other household chores that would be
> nice…
>
> --
> Firewall
>
>
> "Tom Ziegmann" wrote:
>
>> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either
>> in
>> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please
>> post
>> here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use
>> it
>> and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Ziegmann
>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>> Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>>

I hear that with the next version of Microsoft Operations Manager (MOM)
you'll be able to order take-out, it will do you laundry for you, and pick
up the kids from school. :)

--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
"FireWall2" <FireWall2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D824F3CA-D65B-4125-B873-22D477741EA8@microsoft.com...
> Tom,
> Strongly encourage users for Installing BitLocker Setup “Off-line� using
> 256
> Encryption before the user installs -any- third party applications is of
> utmost importance for protecting Vista’s OS Protected System Source Code.
> The
> previous statement was learned the difficult method…
>
> And what a marvelous learning experience; realizing the incredibly Safety
> and Security provided by the most Secure OS on the Globe that will soon
> revolutionize the computer industry!
>
> Again, the above will significantly reduce users from telephoning
> Microsoft
> Tech Support; secondary to user induced application conflicts.
>
> If Vista prepared morning coffee and other household chores that would be
> nice…
>
> --
> Firewall
>
>
> "Tom Ziegmann" wrote:
>
>> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either
>> in
>> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please
>> post
>> here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use
>> it
>> and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Ziegmann
>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>> Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>>

Let me guess. You and your family are having a barbeque dinner over at
Bill's place next week and you thought you'd just take care of these little
issues for us?

I mean, otherwise, couldn't we just do the same thing you're going to do
ourselves?

Dale

--
Dale Preston
MCAD C#
MCSE, MCDBA


"Tom Ziegmann" wrote:

> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either in
> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please post
> here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use it
> and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>
> --
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>

Let me guess. You and your family are having a barbeque dinner over at
Bill's place next week and you thought you'd just take care of these little
issues for us?

I mean, otherwise, couldn't we just do the same thing you're going to do
ourselves?

Dale

--
Dale Preston
MCAD C#
MCSE, MCDBA


"Tom Ziegmann" wrote:

> Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either in
> a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please post
> here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use it
> and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>
> --
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>

Hey Kerry,

I stumbled across your profile on the MVP site - actually I clicked the
Vista MVPs link on the Vista Communities site and browsed to see how many of
the MVPs I had seen in the groups.

I liked your story about playing Lunar Lander on a teletype! That's how I
got my start in the business. It was 1970. I was in high school but hung
out some at the computer center at University of the Pacific. The teletype
connected to the computer at UC Berkeley. :)

That was pretty impressive stuff back then.

Dale

--
Dale Preston
MCAD C#
MCSE, MCDBA


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> I would like to see a better backup system with imaging to multiple
> removable media supported in all the versions, I would also like to see the
> backup program be able to read backups from all previous versions of
> Windows.
>
> I would like to see an easier to use interface to the firewall
> configuration.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2
>
>
> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43F6AAEC-0DE3-4129-9CDE-CB2784181045@microsoft.com...
> > Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either
> > in
> > a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please post
> > here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use
> > it
> > and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
> >
> > --
> > Tom Ziegmann
> > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
> >
>
>

Hey Kerry,

I stumbled across your profile on the MVP site - actually I clicked the
Vista MVPs link on the Vista Communities site and browsed to see how many of
the MVPs I had seen in the groups.

I liked your story about playing Lunar Lander on a teletype! That's how I
got my start in the business. It was 1970. I was in high school but hung
out some at the computer center at University of the Pacific. The teletype
connected to the computer at UC Berkeley. :)

That was pretty impressive stuff back then.

Dale

--
Dale Preston
MCAD C#
MCSE, MCDBA


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> I would like to see a better backup system with imaging to multiple
> removable media supported in all the versions, I would also like to see the
> backup program be able to read backups from all previous versions of
> Windows.
>
> I would like to see an easier to use interface to the firewall
> configuration.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2
>
>
> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43F6AAEC-0DE3-4129-9CDE-CB2784181045@microsoft.com...
> > Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see either
> > in
> > a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please post
> > here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would use
> > it
> > and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
> >
> > --
> > Tom Ziegmann
> > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
> >
>
>

It was very impressive at the time although not impressive enough that I
considered a career in computers. I remember being extremely impressed but
because the computer was so big, it took up a large room, I thought it would
be limited to the corporate world which didn't interest me much back then.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2


"Dale" <dale0973@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:D43A3D2E-A08B-4A5E-BC09-CE8B43343802@microsoft.com...
> Hey Kerry,
>
> I stumbled across your profile on the MVP site - actually I clicked the
> Vista MVPs link on the Vista Communities site and browsed to see how many
> of
> the MVPs I had seen in the groups.
>
> I liked your story about playing Lunar Lander on a teletype! That's how I
> got my start in the business. It was 1970. I was in high school but hung
> out some at the computer center at University of the Pacific. The
> teletype
> connected to the computer at UC Berkeley. :)
> That was pretty impressive stuff back then.
>
> Dale
>
> --
> Dale Preston
> MCAD C#
> MCSE, MCDBA
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> I would like to see a better backup system with imaging to multiple
>> removable media supported in all the versions, I would also like to see
>> the
>> backup program be able to read backups from all previous versions of
>> Windows.
>>
>> I would like to see an easier to use interface to the firewall
>> configuration.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2
>>
>>
>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:43F6AAEC-0DE3-4129-9CDE-CB2784181045@microsoft.com...
>> > Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see
>> > either
>> > in
>> > a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please
>> > post
>> > here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would
>> > use
>> > it
>> > and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tom Ziegmann
>> > Microsoft Certified Professional
>> > Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>> >
>>
>>

It was very impressive at the time although not impressive enough that I
considered a career in computers. I remember being extremely impressed but
because the computer was so big, it took up a large room, I thought it would
be limited to the corporate world which didn't interest me much back then.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2


"Dale" <dale0973@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:D43A3D2E-A08B-4A5E-BC09-CE8B43343802@microsoft.com...
> Hey Kerry,
>
> I stumbled across your profile on the MVP site - actually I clicked the
> Vista MVPs link on the Vista Communities site and browsed to see how many
> of
> the MVPs I had seen in the groups.
>
> I liked your story about playing Lunar Lander on a teletype! That's how I
> got my start in the business. It was 1970. I was in high school but hung
> out some at the computer center at University of the Pacific. The
> teletype
> connected to the computer at UC Berkeley. :)
> That was pretty impressive stuff back then.
>
> Dale
>
> --
> Dale Preston
> MCAD C#
> MCSE, MCDBA
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> I would like to see a better backup system with imaging to multiple
>> removable media supported in all the versions, I would also like to see
>> the
>> backup program be able to read backups from all previous versions of
>> Windows.
>>
>> I would like to see an easier to use interface to the firewall
>> configuration.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2
>>
>>
>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:43F6AAEC-0DE3-4129-9CDE-CB2784181045@microsoft.com...
>> > Now that Vista has RTMed, what functionality would you like to see
>> > either
>> > in
>> > a service / feature pack, extra, or future version of Windows? Please
>> > post
>> > here with what you would like to see, why you think that people would
>> > use
>> > it
>> > and I will try to pass the suggestions along to MS.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tom Ziegmann
>> > Microsoft Certified Professional
>> > Microsoft Core OS TechBeta Tester
>> >
>>
>>

>I hear that with the next version of Microsoft Operations Manager (MOM)
>you'll be able to order take-out, it will do you laundry for you, and pick
>up the kids from school. :)

*calls tech support*

"Whose kids are these?!?!"


--
- JB

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/