Let me count the ways. Oh wait, they're too many.

Here's just another example of questionable programming, and even more
sloppy incomplete testing.

One of Windows' long time weaknesses has been and remains Windows
Explorer. Not only is it a memory and resouces hog, it often just
doesn't work well.

Consider the following. I had a mere 8 video files in one folder on my
"E" hard drive, total size of the group; 3.14 GB. I simply wanted to
move them to a new "finished" folder on my "H" drive which is a USB
2.0 external. I won't even bother mentioning how slow Vista is
compared to XP in doing this simply task, rather lets focus on WHY
Vista is so dumb in doing this simple task.

1. By default I have both drives set to index. By default both drives
are set to show thumbnails. As most already know when you copy or
move files they don't get moved in any particular order. This is
simply due to Windows trying to best use available disk space.

2. The flaw is because of this with indexing on, dumb as dirt Vista
will begin to move the files, often starting in the middle or at
the end. As fate would have it the first file moved began with
letter "V" with the other seven files starting earlier in the
alphabet.

3. On the surface this shouldn't matter. But remember Vista is DUMB
with a capital D. So since the folder is set to show thumbnails
it moves the first file, the one starting with the letter V in the
file name, then goes to get the next one. Well guess what happens
next. Yep, The scroll bar at the top of the Explorer window is
"indexing". I timed it. It took 18 seconds to index 8 file names.

4. Obviously that is laughable. What's way worse is it repeated this
insanity 5 more times. Again, starting from the beginning and
reindexing these eight files, sometimes generating a thumbnail
other times not. Three times it didn't reindex. The point is each
time it took about 18 seconds, totally wasted time.

5. Finally after moving the 8 files it again reindexed them and
going back one more time, finally creating a thumbnail for each
which it had trouble doing during the move for reasons only
Microsoft programmers know.

The point that seems to zoom way over the top of Microsoft programmers
is there is no valid reason to reindex while a move or copy operation
is in process. It serves no purpose other than to slow Windows down. A
far smarter method would be to move ALL the files, then index once. It
would probably be even smarter to suspend drawing any thumbnails until
the move operation was complete. Makes no sense to redraw thumbnails
over and over, yet apparently that is what Vista does.

Guess no beta tester noticed this odd behavior or complained about it
or if they did, Microsoft true to form, simply ignored it.

The irony is this probably isn't even considered a "bug" and I bet
somebody will try to pass off this insanity as a "feature". The point
is if this happens with just eight files and is annoying as hell,
imagine the poor user moving a hundred or a thousand files watching
the moronic Indexer repeating the sort over and over and over.

Ridiculous!

Adam be smart and turn indexing off.... its a horrid usless peice of crap
added only because
apple and google have their own versions.


the sequence that files are copies is relative to which file is under your
cursor at the time of drag and drop...
that is the first one then it goes on from there

try it.. you will see that it is not random.

Adam you are correct that vista has been badly thought out from the
begining.....

they could have made it a very good OS. But you know.... in here you will be
like preaching to rocks...
most people in here dont have a clue about what you are saying.. give them
aero glass, flip 3d and dreamscene,
and they dont care about all those details! lol




"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:iv2h43tpsa801j3mpdrsbiq2705hmt4jd1@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Let me count the ways. Oh wait, they're too many.
>
> Here's just another example of questionable programming, and even more
> sloppy incomplete testing.
>
> One of Windows' long time weaknesses has been and remains Windows
> Explorer. Not only is it a memory and resouces hog, it often just
> doesn't work well.
>
> Consider the following. I had a mere 8 video files in one folder on my
> "E" hard drive, total size of the group; 3.14 GB. I simply wanted to
> move them to a new "finished" folder on my "H" drive which is a USB
> 2.0 external. I won't even bother mentioning how slow Vista is
> compared to XP in doing this simply task, rather lets focus on WHY
> Vista is so dumb in doing this simple task.
>
> 1. By default I have both drives set to index. By default both drives
> are set to show thumbnails. As most already know when you copy or
> move files they don't get moved in any particular order. This is
> simply due to Windows trying to best use available disk space.
>
> 2. The flaw is because of this with indexing on, dumb as dirt Vista
> will begin to move the files, often starting in the middle or at
> the end. As fate would have it the first file moved began with
> letter "V" with the other seven files starting earlier in the
> alphabet.
>
> 3. On the surface this shouldn't matter. But remember Vista is DUMB
> with a capital D. So since the folder is set to show thumbnails
> it moves the first file, the one starting with the letter V in the
> file name, then goes to get the next one. Well guess what happens
> next. Yep, The scroll bar at the top of the Explorer window is
> "indexing". I timed it. It took 18 seconds to index 8 file names.
>
> 4. Obviously that is laughable. What's way worse is it repeated this
> insanity 5 more times. Again, starting from the beginning and
> reindexing these eight files, sometimes generating a thumbnail
> other times not. Three times it didn't reindex. The point is each
> time it took about 18 seconds, totally wasted time.
>
> 5. Finally after moving the 8 files it again reindexed them and
> going back one more time, finally creating a thumbnail for each
> which it had trouble doing during the move for reasons only
> Microsoft programmers know.
>
> The point that seems to zoom way over the top of Microsoft programmers
> is there is no valid reason to reindex while a move or copy operation
> is in process. It serves no purpose other than to slow Windows down. A
> far smarter method would be to move ALL the files, then index once. It
> would probably be even smarter to suspend drawing any thumbnails until
> the move operation was complete. Makes no sense to redraw thumbnails
> over and over, yet apparently that is what Vista does.
>
> Guess no beta tester noticed this odd behavior or complained about it
> or if they did, Microsoft true to form, simply ignored it.
>
> The irony is this probably isn't even considered a "bug" and I bet
> somebody will try to pass off this insanity as a "feature". The point
> is if this happens with just eight files and is annoying as hell,
> imagine the poor user moving a hundred or a thousand files watching
> the moronic Indexer repeating the sort over and over and over.
>
> Ridiculous!
>
>[/color]

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:iv2h43tpsa801j3mpdrsbiq2705hmt4jd1@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Let me count the ways. Oh wait, they're too many.[/color]
<snip>[color=blue]
>
> Guess no beta tester noticed this odd behavior or complained about it
> or if they did, Microsoft true to form, simply ignored it.
>
> The irony is this probably isn't even considered a "bug" and I bet
> somebody will try to pass off this insanity as a "feature". The point
> is if this happens with just eight files and is annoying as hell,
> imagine the poor user moving a hundred or a thousand files watching
> the moronic Indexer repeating the sort over and over and over.
>
> Ridiculous!
>
>[/color]

Having been a beta tester for every OS from Win95 thru Win2K, and all Office
suites in that time span, I can honestly say being a beta tester is not what
most people expect of it.
Sure, MS wants to hear about "bonafide" issues, but my experience has been
that more often than not, those pleas fall on deaf ears.
Back in the Win95 days, MS's favorite catch phrases for reports was "works
as expected" or "not a showstopper". These days I believe issues are
dismissed with "that is by design" <sigh>
They have a clear agenda when it comes to software releases, and it has more
to do with the "bottom line" than innovation or quality - and only much
moreso since monkeyboy Ballmer assumed the reins.
The lack of any real competition only perpetuates this nonsense.

--
=======================================
"Microsoft is not about greed. It's about innovation and fairness."
- Bill Gates
=======================================

john formulated the question :[color=blue]
> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> news:iv2h43tpsa801j3mpdrsbiq2705hmt4jd1@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> Let me count the ways. Oh wait, they're too many.[/color]
> <snip>[color=green]
>>
>> Guess no beta tester noticed this odd behavior or complained about it
>> or if they did, Microsoft true to form, simply ignored it.
>>
>> The irony is this probably isn't even considered a "bug" and I bet
>> somebody will try to pass off this insanity as a "feature". The point
>> is if this happens with just eight files and is annoying as hell,
>> imagine the poor user moving a hundred or a thousand files watching
>> the moronic Indexer repeating the sort over and over and over.
>>
>> Ridiculous!
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Having been a beta tester for every OS from Win95 thru Win2K, and all Office
> suites in that time span, I can honestly say being a beta tester is not what
> most people expect of it.
> Sure, MS wants to hear about "bonafide" issues, but my experience has been
> that more often than not, those pleas fall on deaf ears.
> Back in the Win95 days, MS's favorite catch phrases for reports was "works as
> expected" or "not a showstopper". These days I believe issues are dismissed
> with "that is by design" <sigh>
> They have a clear agenda when it comes to software releases, and it has more
> to do with the "bottom line" than innovation or quality - and only much
> moreso since monkeyboy Ballmer assumed the reins.
> The lack of any real competition only perpetuates this nonsense.[/color]

I also have been a beta tester since Win95, and yes - once we get
involved the features (and enhancements) that the majority of the
testers think should be otherwise get poo-pooed! Only a select few get
in on the Alpha stage where usability and features are added/removed.
Man, would I love to be in that group!

--

Mike Matheny

Tiberius,
How do you disable indexing?
Thanks,
Jerry
"Tiberius" <J@T.K> wrote in message
news:%23BwEDrklHHA.4960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Adam be smart and turn indexing off.... its a horrid usless peice of crap
> added only because
> apple and google have their own versions.
>
>
> the sequence that files are copies is relative to which file is under your
> cursor at the time of drag and drop...
> that is the first one then it goes on from there
>
> try it.. you will see that it is not random.
>
> Adam you are correct that vista has been badly thought out from the
> begining.....
>
> they could have made it a very good OS. But you know.... in here you will
> be like preaching to rocks...
> most people in here dont have a clue about what you are saying.. give them
> aero glass, flip 3d and dreamscene,
> and they dont care about all those details! lol
>
>
>
>
> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> news:iv2h43tpsa801j3mpdrsbiq2705hmt4jd1@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> Let me count the ways. Oh wait, they're too many.
>>
>> Here's just another example of questionable programming, and even more
>> sloppy incomplete testing.
>>
>> One of Windows' long time weaknesses has been and remains Windows
>> Explorer. Not only is it a memory and resouces hog, it often just
>> doesn't work well.
>>
>> Consider the following. I had a mere 8 video files in one folder on my
>> "E" hard drive, total size of the group; 3.14 GB. I simply wanted to
>> move them to a new "finished" folder on my "H" drive which is a USB
>> 2.0 external. I won't even bother mentioning how slow Vista is
>> compared to XP in doing this simply task, rather lets focus on WHY
>> Vista is so dumb in doing this simple task.
>>
>> 1. By default I have both drives set to index. By default both drives
>> are set to show thumbnails. As most already know when you copy or
>> move files they don't get moved in any particular order. This is
>> simply due to Windows trying to best use available disk space.
>>
>> 2. The flaw is because of this with indexing on, dumb as dirt Vista
>> will begin to move the files, often starting in the middle or at
>> the end. As fate would have it the first file moved began with
>> letter "V" with the other seven files starting earlier in the
>> alphabet.
>>
>> 3. On the surface this shouldn't matter. But remember Vista is DUMB
>> with a capital D. So since the folder is set to show thumbnails
>> it moves the first file, the one starting with the letter V in the
>> file name, then goes to get the next one. Well guess what happens
>> next. Yep, The scroll bar at the top of the Explorer window is
>> "indexing". I timed it. It took 18 seconds to index 8 file names.
>>
>> 4. Obviously that is laughable. What's way worse is it repeated this
>> insanity 5 more times. Again, starting from the beginning and
>> reindexing these eight files, sometimes generating a thumbnail
>> other times not. Three times it didn't reindex. The point is each
>> time it took about 18 seconds, totally wasted time.
>>
>> 5. Finally after moving the 8 files it again reindexed them and
>> going back one more time, finally creating a thumbnail for each
>> which it had trouble doing during the move for reasons only
>> Microsoft programmers know.
>>
>> The point that seems to zoom way over the top of Microsoft programmers
>> is there is no valid reason to reindex while a move or copy operation
>> is in process. It serves no purpose other than to slow Windows down. A
>> far smarter method would be to move ALL the files, then index once. It
>> would probably be even smarter to suspend drawing any thumbnails until
>> the move operation was complete. Makes no sense to redraw thumbnails
>> over and over, yet apparently that is what Vista does.
>>
>> Guess no beta tester noticed this odd behavior or complained about it
>> or if they did, Microsoft true to form, simply ignored it.
>>
>> The irony is this probably isn't even considered a "bug" and I bet
>> somebody will try to pass off this insanity as a "feature". The point
>> is if this happens with just eight files and is annoying as hell,
>> imagine the poor user moving a hundred or a thousand files watching
>> the moronic Indexer repeating the sort over and over and over.
>>
>> Ridiculous!
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Best of all, Vista will try to load the video files even when it is copying
or moving them. To prove this,
1) Try installing DivX (because it shows a tray icon when it is used)
2) Move a video file (.avi)
3) You'll see that the DivX tray icon appear at the taskbar (meaning that
Vista loaded the file)

And if you are moving 10 files, it loaded each one of them before moving
them.

Best of all, if you are in a slow network (VPN?) and you arrived at a folder
full of videos (even with List view), prepare to wait for a very long time.

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:iv2h43tpsa801j3mpdrsbiq2705hmt4jd1@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Let me count the ways. Oh wait, they're too many.
>
> Here's just another example of questionable programming, and even more
> sloppy incomplete testing.
>
> One of Windows' long time weaknesses has been and remains Windows
> Explorer. Not only is it a memory and resouces hog, it often just
> doesn't work well.
>
> Consider the following. I had a mere 8 video files in one folder on my
> "E" hard drive, total size of the group; 3.14 GB. I simply wanted to
> move them to a new "finished" folder on my "H" drive which is a USB
> 2.0 external. I won't even bother mentioning how slow Vista is
> compared to XP in doing this simply task, rather lets focus on WHY
> Vista is so dumb in doing this simple task.
>
> 1. By default I have both drives set to index. By default both drives
> are set to show thumbnails. As most already know when you copy or
> move files they don't get moved in any particular order. This is
> simply due to Windows trying to best use available disk space.
>
> 2. The flaw is because of this with indexing on, dumb as dirt Vista
> will begin to move the files, often starting in the middle or at
> the end. As fate would have it the first file moved began with
> letter "V" with the other seven files starting earlier in the
> alphabet.
>
> 3. On the surface this shouldn't matter. But remember Vista is DUMB
> with a capital D. So since the folder is set to show thumbnails
> it moves the first file, the one starting with the letter V in the
> file name, then goes to get the next one. Well guess what happens
> next. Yep, The scroll bar at the top of the Explorer window is
> "indexing". I timed it. It took 18 seconds to index 8 file names.
>
> 4. Obviously that is laughable. What's way worse is it repeated this
> insanity 5 more times. Again, starting from the beginning and
> reindexing these eight files, sometimes generating a thumbnail
> other times not. Three times it didn't reindex. The point is each
> time it took about 18 seconds, totally wasted time.
>
> 5. Finally after moving the 8 files it again reindexed them and
> going back one more time, finally creating a thumbnail for each
> which it had trouble doing during the move for reasons only
> Microsoft programmers know.
>
> The point that seems to zoom way over the top of Microsoft programmers
> is there is no valid reason to reindex while a move or copy operation
> is in process. It serves no purpose other than to slow Windows down. A
> far smarter method would be to move ALL the files, then index once. It
> would probably be even smarter to suspend drawing any thumbnails until
> the move operation was complete. Makes no sense to redraw thumbnails
> over and over, yet apparently that is what Vista does.
>
> Guess no beta tester noticed this odd behavior or complained about it
> or if they did, Microsoft true to form, simply ignored it.
>
> The irony is this probably isn't even considered a "bug" and I bet
> somebody will try to pass off this insanity as a "feature". The point
> is if this happens with just eight files and is annoying as hell,
> imagine the poor user moving a hundred or a thousand files watching
> the moronic Indexer repeating the sort over and over and over.
>
> Ridiculous!
>
>[/color]

Its a service among the services that you will find if you go to control
panel> administrator tools> services.

The service is called windows search.

You will still be able to search, just the indexing will be off....

THANK GOD!!!!



"Jerry" <goofey1@not.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ncGdnX9ve47SR9XbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Tiberius,
> How do you disable indexing?
> Thanks,
> Jerry
> "Tiberius" <J@T.K> wrote in message
> news:%23BwEDrklHHA.4960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Adam be smart and turn indexing off.... its a horrid usless peice of crap
>> added only because
>> apple and google have their own versions.
>>
>>
>> the sequence that files are copies is relative to which file is under
>> your cursor at the time of drag and drop...
>> that is the first one then it goes on from there
>>
>> try it.. you will see that it is not random.
>>
>> Adam you are correct that vista has been badly thought out from the
>> begining.....
>>
>> they could have made it a very good OS. But you know.... in here you will
>> be like preaching to rocks...
>> most people in here dont have a clue about what you are saying.. give
>> them aero glass, flip 3d and dreamscene,
>> and they dont care about all those details! lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>> news:iv2h43tpsa801j3mpdrsbiq2705hmt4jd1@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Let me count the ways. Oh wait, they're too many.
>>>
>>> Here's just another example of questionable programming, and even more
>>> sloppy incomplete testing.
>>>
>>> One of Windows' long time weaknesses has been and remains Windows
>>> Explorer. Not only is it a memory and resouces hog, it often just
>>> doesn't work well.
>>>
>>> Consider the following. I had a mere 8 video files in one folder on my
>>> "E" hard drive, total size of the group; 3.14 GB. I simply wanted to
>>> move them to a new "finished" folder on my "H" drive which is a USB
>>> 2.0 external. I won't even bother mentioning how slow Vista is
>>> compared to XP in doing this simply task, rather lets focus on WHY
>>> Vista is so dumb in doing this simple task.
>>>
>>> 1. By default I have both drives set to index. By default both drives
>>> are set to show thumbnails. As most already know when you copy or
>>> move files they don't get moved in any particular order. This is
>>> simply due to Windows trying to best use available disk space.
>>>
>>> 2. The flaw is because of this with indexing on, dumb as dirt Vista
>>> will begin to move the files, often starting in the middle or at
>>> the end. As fate would have it the first file moved began with
>>> letter "V" with the other seven files starting earlier in the
>>> alphabet.
>>>
>>> 3. On the surface this shouldn't matter. But remember Vista is DUMB
>>> with a capital D. So since the folder is set to show thumbnails
>>> it moves the first file, the one starting with the letter V in the
>>> file name, then goes to get the next one. Well guess what happens
>>> next. Yep, The scroll bar at the top of the Explorer window is
>>> "indexing". I timed it. It took 18 seconds to index 8 file names.
>>>
>>> 4. Obviously that is laughable. What's way worse is it repeated this
>>> insanity 5 more times. Again, starting from the beginning and
>>> reindexing these eight files, sometimes generating a thumbnail
>>> other times not. Three times it didn't reindex. The point is each
>>> time it took about 18 seconds, totally wasted time.
>>>
>>> 5. Finally after moving the 8 files it again reindexed them and
>>> going back one more time, finally creating a thumbnail for each
>>> which it had trouble doing during the move for reasons only
>>> Microsoft programmers know.
>>>
>>> The point that seems to zoom way over the top of Microsoft programmers
>>> is there is no valid reason to reindex while a move or copy operation
>>> is in process. It serves no purpose other than to slow Windows down. A
>>> far smarter method would be to move ALL the files, then index once. It
>>> would probably be even smarter to suspend drawing any thumbnails until
>>> the move operation was complete. Makes no sense to redraw thumbnails
>>> over and over, yet apparently that is what Vista does.
>>>
>>> Guess no beta tester noticed this odd behavior or complained about it
>>> or if they did, Microsoft true to form, simply ignored it.
>>>
>>> The irony is this probably isn't even considered a "bug" and I bet
>>> somebody will try to pass off this insanity as a "feature". The point
>>> is if this happens with just eight files and is annoying as hell,
>>> imagine the poor user moving a hundred or a thousand files watching
>>> the moronic Indexer repeating the sort over and over and over.
>>>
>>> Ridiculous!
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Just to be clear though, indexing isn't related to the green progress bar in
explorer windows, so I don't think this was the cause of the original issue.

"Tiberius" <J@T.K> wrote in message
news:eVjJDHolHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Its a service among the services that you will find if you go to control
> panel> administrator tools> services.
>
> The service is called windows search.
>
> You will still be able to search, just the indexing will be off....
>
> THANK GOD!!!!
>
>
>
> "Jerry" <goofey1@not.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ncGdnX9ve47SR9XbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>> Tiberius,
>> How do you disable indexing?
>> Thanks,
>> Jerry
>> "Tiberius" <J@T.K> wrote in message
>> news:%23BwEDrklHHA.4960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Adam be smart and turn indexing off.... its a horrid usless peice of
>>> crap added only because
>>> apple and google have their own versions.
>>>
>>>
>>> the sequence that files are copies is relative to which file is under
>>> your cursor at the time of drag and drop...
>>> that is the first one then it goes on from there
>>>
>>> try it.. you will see that it is not random.
>>>
>>> Adam you are correct that vista has been badly thought out from the
>>> begining.....
>>>
>>> they could have made it a very good OS. But you know.... in here you
>>> will be like preaching to rocks...
>>> most people in here dont have a clue about what you are saying.. give
>>> them aero glass, flip 3d and dreamscene,
>>> and they dont care about all those details! lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>> news:iv2h43tpsa801j3mpdrsbiq2705hmt4jd1@4ax.com...
>>>> Let me count the ways. Oh wait, they're too many.
>>>>
>>>> Here's just another example of questionable programming, and even more
>>>> sloppy incomplete testing.
>>>>
>>>> One of Windows' long time weaknesses has been and remains Windows
>>>> Explorer. Not only is it a memory and resouces hog, it often just
>>>> doesn't work well.
>>>>
>>>> Consider the following. I had a mere 8 video files in one folder on my
>>>> "E" hard drive, total size of the group; 3.14 GB. I simply wanted to
>>>> move them to a new "finished" folder on my "H" drive which is a USB
>>>> 2.0 external. I won't even bother mentioning how slow Vista is
>>>> compared to XP in doing this simply task, rather lets focus on WHY
>>>> Vista is so dumb in doing this simple task.
>>>>
>>>> 1. By default I have both drives set to index. By default both drives
>>>> are set to show thumbnails. As most already know when you copy or
>>>> move files they don't get moved in any particular order. This is
>>>> simply due to Windows trying to best use available disk space.
>>>>
>>>> 2. The flaw is because of this with indexing on, dumb as dirt Vista
>>>> will begin to move the files, often starting in the middle or at
>>>> the end. As fate would have it the first file moved began with
>>>> letter "V" with the other seven files starting earlier in the
>>>> alphabet.
>>>>
>>>> 3. On the surface this shouldn't matter. But remember Vista is DUMB
>>>> with a capital D. So since the folder is set to show thumbnails
>>>> it moves the first file, the one starting with the letter V in the
>>>> file name, then goes to get the next one. Well guess what happens
>>>> next. Yep, The scroll bar at the top of the Explorer window is
>>>> "indexing". I timed it. It took 18 seconds to index 8 file names.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Obviously that is laughable. What's way worse is it repeated this
>>>> insanity 5 more times. Again, starting from the beginning and
>>>> reindexing these eight files, sometimes generating a thumbnail
>>>> other times not. Three times it didn't reindex. The point is each
>>>> time it took about 18 seconds, totally wasted time.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Finally after moving the 8 files it again reindexed them and
>>>> going back one more time, finally creating a thumbnail for each
>>>> which it had trouble doing during the move for reasons only
>>>> Microsoft programmers know.
>>>>
>>>> The point that seems to zoom way over the top of Microsoft programmers
>>>> is there is no valid reason to reindex while a move or copy operation
>>>> is in process. It serves no purpose other than to slow Windows down. A
>>>> far smarter method would be to move ALL the files, then index once. It
>>>> would probably be even smarter to suspend drawing any thumbnails until
>>>> the move operation was complete. Makes no sense to redraw thumbnails
>>>> over and over, yet apparently that is what Vista does.
>>>>
>>>> Guess no beta tester noticed this odd behavior or complained about it
>>>> or if they did, Microsoft true to form, simply ignored it.
>>>>
>>>> The irony is this probably isn't even considered a "bug" and I bet
>>>> somebody will try to pass off this insanity as a "feature". The point
>>>> is if this happens with just eight files and is annoying as hell,
>>>> imagine the poor user moving a hundred or a thousand files watching
>>>> the moronic Indexer repeating the sort over and over and over.
>>>>
>>>> Ridiculous!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

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Dave Wood [MS] wrote:[color=blue]
> Just to be clear though, indexing isn't related to the green progress
> bar in explorer windows, so I don't think this was the cause of the
> original issue.
>[/color]

Did you notice that the great bulk of replies here, are not to solve
problems, but to spread FUD?


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Trolls are like babies. After feeding, they get stinky.
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Feliks Dzerzhinsky wrote:[color=blue]
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> Dave Wood [MS] wrote:[color=green]
>> Just to be clear though, indexing isn't related to the green progress
>> bar in explorer windows, so I don't think this was the cause of the
>> original issue.
>>[/color]
>
> Did you notice that the great bulk of replies here, are not to solve
> problems, but to spread FUD?
>
>
> - --
> Iron Feliks[/color]

That's because no one knows how to solve most of the problems and it
ain't FUD. Microsoft's patent trip is FUD.

I notice that the bulk of your replies are "Go away troll". Are you a
self appointed net nanny or what?

Alias

On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:27:11 -0700, Feliks Dzerzhinsky
<fdzerzhinsky@kgb.su> wrote:
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>Dave Wood [MS] wrote:[color=green]
>> Just to be clear though, indexing isn't related to the green progress
>> bar in explorer windows, so I don't think this was the cause of the
>> original issue.
>>[/color]
>
>Did you notice that the great bulk of replies here, are not to solve
>problems, but to spread FUD?[/color]

Like yours?

The fact is most so-called support groups are infected with people
that want attention, are wannabe types or are trying to sell
something.

Remove the Franks, Justins, most MVPs and Linux trolls and things
would quite down. Fat chance of that happening.

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:b0kr43hpnoi344j8l7okb00i3420330mi0@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:27:11 -0700, Feliks Dzerzhinsky
> <fdzerzhinsky@kgb.su> wrote:
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>>Dave Wood [MS] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Just to be clear though, indexing isn't related to the green progress
>>> bar in explorer windows, so I don't think this was the cause of the
>>> original issue.
>>>[/color]
>>
>>Did you notice that the great bulk of replies here, are not to solve
>>problems, but to spread FUD?[/color]
>
> Like yours?
>
> The fact is most so-called support groups are infected with people
> that want attention, are wannabe types or are trying to sell
> something.
>
> Remove the Franks, Justins, most MVPs and Linux trolls and things
> would quite down. Fat chance of that happening.
>
>[/color]

You would also have to remove yourself. A high percentage of your posts are
nothing but garbage.

Just like this thread. You original post is nothing but BS.

1. HOW explorer works has nothing to do with the beta testers. Our job is
to test what we are given, not code. Your first mistake is your ignorance
on the subject.

2. MANY explorer issues had bugs filed. It is not the beta testers job to
fix the bugs. Your second mistake is your ignorance on the subject.

Got any other bright things to say wuttle adum?

"Feliks Dzerzhinsky" <fdzerzhinsky@kgb.su> wrote in message
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> Dave Wood [MS] wrote:[color=green]
>> Just to be clear though, indexing isn't related to the green progress
>> bar in explorer windows, so I don't think this was the cause of the
>> original issue.
>>[/color]
>
> Did you notice that the great bulk of replies here, are not to solve
> problems, but to spread FUD?[/color]

I don't see that at all. Once you clear out the FUD threads, you can see a
lot of people asking for help and getting answers to their questions.

You won't see adam get an answer because he's a hated idiot that starts
threads with extreme anger and comes off sounding like a complete a$$.

His original post not only addressed an issue, but attacked every beta
tester for no good reason as I stated in another post. I don't expect
anyone to respect him and no one should.

Now stay tuned and watch him call me names and basically say the exact same
thing about me as I just said about him.

On Sun, 20 May 2007 22:09:27 -0700, "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>news:b0kr43hpnoi344j8l7okb00i3420330mi0@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:27:11 -0700, Feliks Dzerzhinsky
>> <fdzerzhinsky@kgb.su> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
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>>>Dave Wood [MS] wrote:
>>>> Just to be clear though, indexing isn't related to the green progress
>>>> bar in explorer windows, so I don't think this was the cause of the
>>>> original issue.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Did you notice that the great bulk of replies here, are not to solve
>>>problems, but to spread FUD?[/color]
>>
>> Like yours?
>>
>> The fact is most so-called support groups are infected with people
>> that want attention, are wannabe types or are trying to sell
>> something.
>>
>> Remove the Franks, Justins, most MVPs and Linux trolls and things
>> would quite down. Fat chance of that happening.
>>
>>[/color]
>
>You would also have to remove yourself. A high percentage of your posts are
>nothing but garbage.
>
>Just like this thread. You original post is nothing but BS.
>
>1. HOW explorer works has nothing to do with the beta testers. Our job is
>to test what we are given, not code. Your first mistake is your ignorance
>on the subject.
>
>2. MANY explorer issues had bugs filed. It is not the beta testers job to
>fix the bugs. Your second mistake is your ignorance on the subject.
>
>Got any other bright things to say wuttle adum?[/color]

You remain a stupid little punk everybody laughs at. Sorry for the
reality check kid, but facts are facts.

On Sun, 20 May 2007 22:13:44 -0700, "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Feliks Dzerzhinsky" <fdzerzhinsky@kgb.su> wrote in message
>news:OPFWREWmHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
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>> Dave Wood [MS] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Just to be clear though, indexing isn't related to the green progress
>>> bar in explorer windows, so I don't think this was the cause of the
>>> original issue.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Did you notice that the great bulk of replies here, are not to solve
>> problems, but to spread FUD?[/color]
>
>I don't see that at all. Once you clear out the FUD threads, you can see a
>lot of people asking for help and getting answers to their questions.
>
>You won't see adam get an answer because he's a hated idiot that starts
>threads with extreme anger and comes off sounding like a complete a$$.[/color]
[color=blue]
>His original post not only addressed an issue, but attacked every beta
>tester for no good reason as I stated in another post. I don't expect
>anyone to respect him and no one should.
>
>Now stay tuned and watch him call me names and basically say the exact same
>thing about me as I just said about him.[/color]

I don't have to say a thing. Daily you confirm you're a idiot.