"Leythos" <Void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:1179154245_22537@sp6iad.superfeed.net...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 14 May 2007 07:28:58 -0400, Tony Stork wrote:
>[color=green]
>> WRONG! Ubuntu has free open source alternatives for just about ALL
>> software that people have ever run under Windows. And in most cases,
>> the free software alternatives do everything their commercial
>> counterparts can do![/color]
>
> LOL - spoken like a true Zealot.[/color]

Also...

"And in most cases, the free software alternatives do everything
their commercial counterparts can do!"

Actually means...

"The free software alternatives cannot do everything
their commercial counterparts can do!"

"And in most cases" epitomic weasel words.

My bra holds worlds wrote:[color=blue]
> Frank wrote:[color=green]
>> Nina DiBoy wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:45:58 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...is over, at least on my VISTA machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I put it on its own hard drive and messed around with it for a
>>>>>>> week or
>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colossal pain in the ass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Worked okay, but not very user friendly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bye, bye...ubuntu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My experience with Ubuntu is the same, it's like using a toy after
>>>>>> running AIX, Unix, etc... If you want one with full features, use
>>>>>> a stand-
>>>>>> alone drive for your testing, don't dual boot, download the
>>>>>> Multiple ISO images for Fedora Core 6 and you'll find about
>>>>>> everything you need if you are a SOHO or business user. It's still
>>>>>> not where XP is yet, but it's leaps and bounds ahead of Ubuntu.
>>>>>> Ubuntu is for people that can't make other Linux versions run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What can XP or Vista do that Ubuntu can't do?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Run Adobe, Corel, Ulead, Quark, Nuance, etc., software applications.
>>>> And of course MS software.
>>>> Urbuttoo can't run any of the above unless you use wine. But if you
>>>> have to do that then who cares.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> Or a virtual machine to run windows. :)
>>>[/color]
>> Yeah but then you've still got to purchase Adobe, Corel, Ulead, Quark,
>> Nuance, etc and why pay all that money to run VPC?
>> Anyway, I don't understand the economics behind saving a few quid and
>> jeopardizing thousands? :-)
>> Frank[/color]
>
> C'mon Frank, you know it's all to avoid the Microsoft Tax! ;)[/color]

LOL! My bra holds worlds... Cute.

But excellent point. To avoid the Microsoft tax part of which is WPA,
WGA/N, SPP, other buggy DRM, violation of privacy, paying large sums of
money for mediocre (at the best) products just so that as customers we
can regularly be insulted and treated as criminals, etc. People really
have no idea how incredibly expensive the Microsoft tax is until they
have been bent over the table for MS for years before they even realize
something is going on.

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On Mon, 14 May 2007 14:43:27 -0500, Nina DiBoy wrote:[color=blue]
>
> To avoid the Microsoft tax part of which is WPA, WGA/N, SPP, other buggy
> DRM, violation of privacy, paying large sums of money for mediocre (at
> the best) products just so that as customers we can regularly be
> insulted and treated as criminals, etc. People really have no idea how
> incredibly expensive the Microsoft tax is until they have been bent over
> the table for MS for years before they even realize something is going
> on.[/color]

LOL - Wait till you manage a business that has to work with people that
Use MS product, your open-source software doesn't work with MS documents
well, doesn't support easy networking, and generally means compromise
when working with MS users.

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Nina DiBoy wrote:[color=blue]
> My bra holds worlds wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Frank wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Nina DiBoy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:45:58 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...is over, at least on my VISTA machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I put it on its own hard drive and messed around with it for a
>>>>>>>> week or
>>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Colossal pain in the ass.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Worked okay, but not very user friendly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bye, bye...ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My experience with Ubuntu is the same, it's like using a toy
>>>>>>> after running AIX, Unix, etc... If you want one with full
>>>>>>> features, use a stand-
>>>>>>> alone drive for your testing, don't dual boot, download the
>>>>>>> Multiple ISO images for Fedora Core 6 and you'll find about
>>>>>>> everything you need if you are a SOHO or business user. It's
>>>>>>> still not where XP is yet, but it's leaps and bounds ahead of
>>>>>>> Ubuntu. Ubuntu is for people that can't make other Linux versions
>>>>>>> run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What can XP or Vista do that Ubuntu can't do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Run Adobe, Corel, Ulead, Quark, Nuance, etc., software applications.
>>>>> And of course MS software.
>>>>> Urbuttoo can't run any of the above unless you use wine. But if you
>>>>> have to do that then who cares.
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or a virtual machine to run windows. :)
>>>>
>>> Yeah but then you've still got to purchase Adobe, Corel, Ulead,
>>> Quark, Nuance, etc and why pay all that money to run VPC?
>>> Anyway, I don't understand the economics behind saving a few quid and
>>> jeopardizing thousands? :-)
>>> Frank[/color]
>>
>>
>> C'mon Frank, you know it's all to avoid the Microsoft Tax! ;)[/color]
>
>
> LOL! My bra holds worlds... Cute.
>
> But excellent point. To avoid the Microsoft tax part of which is WPA,
> WGA/N, SPP, other buggy DRM, violation of privacy, paying large sums of
> money for mediocre (at the best) products just so that as customers we
> can regularly be insulted and treated as criminals, etc. People really
> have no idea how incredibly expensive the Microsoft tax is until they
> have been bent over the table for MS for years before they even realize
> something is going on.
>[/color]
Well, I don't yet have to pay the petrol tax the Euros do! :-)
Frank