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Old 05-10-2007, 11:00 PM
jim-in-phx
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Getting Numlock to default ON?

Its the little things that drive you nutz! I have been unable to get Vista
to default the Numlock to the ON state at boot up. I have set my Dell
computer BIOS setting to ON for the Numlock, and it does initially go on at
initial boot, however, once the Vista password login window appears, the
Numlock turns off. A Google search of the web did not provide any solutions,
but I did note that there were many similar posts looking for a solution to
this issue.
Any suggestions?
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:31 AM
John Wesley Asquith
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Re: Getting Numlock to default ON?

I'm going to give you some second hand info that I can't verify myself.

First, the default setting for the keyboard is set user-by-user and is
controlled through the registry. "I am told" that the registry setting
for num lock is either 0 or 2, depending on what you want.

Try one, if that doesn't work the way you like then try the other.

Incidentally, I am using Vista Home Premium on a new Compaq computer.
For some reason, NUM LOCK defaults to ON with my standard 102-key PS2
keyboard. Don't know how or why because I didn't do anything to force
that. Glad it is on though.



On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:55:00 -0700, jim-in-phx
<jim-in-phx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Its the little things that drive you nutz! I have been unable to get Vista
>to default the Numlock to the ON state at boot up. I have set my Dell
>computer BIOS setting to ON for the Numlock, and it does initially go on at
>initial boot, however, once the Vista password login window appears, the
>Numlock turns off. A Google search of the web did not provide any solutions,
>but I did note that there were many similar posts looking for a solution to
>this issue.
>Any suggestions?[/color]

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Old 05-11-2007, 05:30 AM
jim-in-phx
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Re: Getting Numlock to default ON?

Thanks for the info. I still cannot get the Numlock to default ON, but I now
know regedit is still alive and well (hadn't been able to find it in Vista
before).

The initial setting for InitialKeyboardIndicators was set at 2, so I tried
resetting to 0, with the same results.

I also tried a little experiment, with interesting results. During boot,
BIOS turns Numlock on, during initial Vista Premium boot, Vista turns it off.
At Vista login (password) screen, I manually turned it on to enter my
password, then manually turned it off, just before clicking enter, and once
Vista continued to load, it did turn Numlock back on. Seems like a bug in
the Vista initial login proceedure? Bill...are you listening?

"brink" wrote:
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>
> Hi jim-in-phx,
>
> This should be a solution for you: (leave it set for on in BIOS to)
>
> 1. open regedit
> 2. goto HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Keyboard
> 3. in right pane, right click on "InitialKeyboardIndicators"
> 4. click MODIFY
> 5. change value to "2" (no quotes) ("0" for off)
> 6. click OK to apply
> 7. close regedit
> 8. reboot & should be on now
>
> Hope this helps you,
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> brink
>
> "Practice makes perfect, then you reinstall"
> Vista 64 Home Premium
> 1.5 Gig DDR2 533 Mhz (PC4200) RAM
>[/color]
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Old 05-11-2007, 11:30 AM
Jay Somerset
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Re: Getting Numlock to default ON?

It should come up on boot the way it was set when you last shut down.
Independent settings for each user, however.


On Fri, 11 May 2007 07:17:29 GMT, John Wesley Asquith
<john_asquith6********.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I'm going to give you some second hand info that I can't verify myself.
>
> First, the default setting for the keyboard is set user-by-user and is
> controlled through the registry. "I am told" that the registry setting
> for num lock is either 0 or 2, depending on what you want.
>
> Try one, if that doesn't work the way you like then try the other.
>
> Incidentally, I am using Vista Home Premium on a new Compaq computer.
> For some reason, NUM LOCK defaults to ON with my standard 102-key PS2
> keyboard. Don't know how or why because I didn't do anything to force
> that. Glad it is on though.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:55:00 -0700, jim-in-phx
> <jim-in-phx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Its the little things that drive you nutz! I have been unable to get Vista
> >to default the Numlock to the ON state at boot up. I have set my Dell
> >computer BIOS setting to ON for the Numlock, and it does initially go on at
> >initial boot, however, once the Vista password login window appears, the
> >Numlock turns off. A Google search of the web did not provide any solutions,
> >but I did note that there were many similar posts looking for a solution to
> >this issue.
> >Any suggestions?[/color][/color]
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:20 PM
Guy Thomas
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Re: Getting Numlock to default ON?

Dear Jim

Your problem caught my imagination.

1) InitialKeyboardIndicators =2 did not work on my Vista laptop
2) Two-line VBScript - Logon Script
May work in the Startup folder

Copy into notepad

set objShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
objShell.SendKeys "{NUMLOCK}"

3) I have been experimenting with Windiff for projects such as yours.
Unfortunately, I cannot find any 'difference' before and after pressing
Num Lock

[url]http://computerperformance.co.uk/vista/vista_registry_windiff.htm[/url]

"jim-in-phx" <jim-in-phx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:91F93CAD-3896-4271-94B3-0A086FDD467C@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Its the little things that drive you nutz! I have been unable to get
> Vista
> to default the Numlock to the ON state at boot up. I have set my Dell
> computer BIOS setting to ON for the Numlock, and it does initially go on
> at
> initial boot, however, once the Vista password login window appears, the
> Numlock turns off. A Google search of the web did not provide any
> solutions,
> but I did note that there were many similar posts looking for a solution
> to
> this issue.
> Any suggestions?[/color]


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Old 05-11-2007, 02:30 PM
AJR
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Re: Getting Numlock to default ON?

Check group policy setting.

"Guy Thomas" <guy@computerperformance.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uJzdKEBlHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Dear Jim
>
> Your problem caught my imagination.
>
> 1) InitialKeyboardIndicators =2 did not work on my Vista laptop
> 2) Two-line VBScript - Logon Script
> May work in the Startup folder
>
> Copy into notepad
>
> set objShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
> objShell.SendKeys "{NUMLOCK}"
>
> 3) I have been experimenting with Windiff for projects such as yours.
> Unfortunately, I cannot find any 'difference' before and after pressing
> Num Lock
>
> [url]http://computerperformance.co.uk/vista/vista_registry_windiff.htm[/url]
>
> "jim-in-phx" <jim-in-phx@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:91F93CAD-3896-4271-94B3-0A086FDD467C@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Its the little things that drive you nutz! I have been unable to get
>> Vista
>> to default the Numlock to the ON state at boot up. I have set my Dell
>> computer BIOS setting to ON for the Numlock, and it does initially go on
>> at
>> initial boot, however, once the Vista password login window appears, the
>> Numlock turns off. A Google search of the web did not provide any
>> solutions,
>> but I did note that there were many similar posts looking for a solution
>> to
>> this issue.
>> Any suggestions?[/color]
>
>[/color]


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Old 03-24-2009, 03:39 AM
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Re: Getting Numlock to default ON?


Your post caught my attention, as I have also been having this problem!
It then occurred to me, the numlock key is a -toggle- switch. So I
figured out that the bios and the OS were fighting. E.G. BIOS turns
numlock on! -- OS toggles it back off again. So i turned off the default
numlock setting in my bios and... Voila!! Vista turns it on! Hope this
works with you!! It's soo simple!


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Old 03-24-2009, 03:39 AM
Ray Luca
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Re: Getting Numlock to default ON?

tdub228 <tdub228.3nr3od@no-mx.forums.vistaheads.com> wrote:
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>Your post caught my attention,[/color]

What SHOULD have caught your attention was the DATE of the post: it is
ALMOST TWO YEARS OLD.

[color=blue]
> as I have also been having this problem!
>It then occurred to me, the numlock key is a -toggle- switch. So I
>figured out that the bios and the OS were fighting. E.G. BIOS turns
>numlock on! -- OS toggles it back off again. So i turned off the default
>numlock setting in my bios and... Voila!! Vista turns it on! Hope this
>works with you!! It's soo simple![/color]
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