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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC Kerry Brown wrote: but then part of my living comes from repairing the > damage done by malware and anything that helps in this fight is a good > thing by me. :) ;)      |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC Well, Kerry should be telling people don't use UAC - he'll make a lot more money that way. :) Dale "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message news:O4bH5c4JHHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > Kerry Brown wrote: > but then part of my living comes from repairing the >> damage done by malware and anything that helps in this fight is a good >> thing by me. > > :) ;) |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC Well, Kerry should be telling people don't use UAC - he'll make a lot more money that way. :) Dale "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message news:O4bH5c4JHHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > Kerry Brown wrote: > but then part of my living comes from repairing the >> damage done by malware and anything that helps in this fight is a good >> thing by me. > > :) ;) |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC I hate removing malware. The only reason I do it is because my customers request and need it. I would much rather be spending more of my time helping them get more out of their computers and networks rather than helping them just to maintain the existing level of productivity. I prefer working in a positive environment. Malware forces us to work in a negative environment. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2 "Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message news:uh3MQo4JHHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Well, Kerry should be telling people don't use UAC - he'll make a lot more > money that way. :) > > Dale > > "Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message > news:O4bH5c4JHHA.2232@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Kerry Brown wrote: >> but then part of my living comes from repairing the >>> damage done by malware and anything that helps in this fight is a good >>> thing by me. >> >> :) ;) > |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC What are you, some freakin idiot??? Why are you telling people how to eliminate one of the layers of security in Vista??? Does it really bother you so much to have to acknowledge a few prompts??? Why don't you tell people that what they are doing is leaving a hole in their security big enough to drive a Mac truck through. People, pay no attention to this moronic advise and do not disable UAC. The little bother it is to acknowledge a UAC prompt is nothing compared to the time it takes to fix a computer infested with malware, spyware, worms, trojans, and viruses. "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eblq5C3JHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > If you still want to be annoyed a bit, but not as much you could try this one: http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=107 ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC What are you, some freakin idiot??? Why are you telling people how to eliminate one of the layers of security in Vista??? Does it really bother you so much to have to acknowledge a few prompts??? Why don't you tell people that what they are doing is leaving a hole in their security big enough to drive a Mac truck through. People, pay no attention to this moronic advise and do not disable UAC. The little bother it is to acknowledge a UAC prompt is nothing compared to the time it takes to fix a computer infested with malware, spyware, worms, trojans, and viruses. "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eblq5C3JHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > If you still want to be annoyed a bit, but not as much you could try this one: http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=107 ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC You're the f'ing idiot. "William" <woogles@charter.net> wrote in message news:%23wKiIW5JHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... What are you, some freakin idiot??? Why are you telling people how to eliminate one of the layers of security in Vista??? Does it really bother you so much to have to acknowledge a few prompts??? Why don't you tell people that what they are doing is leaving a hole in their security big enough to drive a Mac truck through. People, pay no attention to this moronic advise and do not disable UAC. The little bother it is to acknowledge a UAC prompt is nothing compared to the time it takes to fix a computer infested with malware, spyware, worms, trojans, and viruses. "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eblq5C3JHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > If you still want to be annoyed a bit, but not as much you could try this one: http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=107 ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC You're the f'ing idiot. "William" <woogles@charter.net> wrote in message news:%23wKiIW5JHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... What are you, some freakin idiot??? Why are you telling people how to eliminate one of the layers of security in Vista??? Does it really bother you so much to have to acknowledge a few prompts??? Why don't you tell people that what they are doing is leaving a hole in their security big enough to drive a Mac truck through. People, pay no attention to this moronic advise and do not disable UAC. The little bother it is to acknowledge a UAC prompt is nothing compared to the time it takes to fix a computer infested with malware, spyware, worms, trojans, and viruses. "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eblq5C3JHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > If you still want to be annoyed a bit, but not as much you could try this one: http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=107 ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC (looking at all posts above) Oh boy, and I thought *I* was UAC zealot LOL. SS you should have mention in your original posts that tips you suggest turn off two major features of UAC. 1. The consent prompt. Man, it's main purpose of UAC to warn user! Turning that off basically means turning UAC off. 2. Secure Desktop. This is what protects UAC from being tricked by malware. During UAC beta testing it became clear that you can write a program that will agree to consent without your intervention by interacting with UAC prompt thus circumventing UAC protection. Secure Desktop eliminates this risk by limiting the ability to interact with UAC prompt to only console I/O (keyboard/mouse). No other programs can access UAC pop-up window when SD is on. -- Alexander Suhovey "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > > ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC (looking at all posts above) Oh boy, and I thought *I* was UAC zealot LOL. SS you should have mention in your original posts that tips you suggest turn off two major features of UAC. 1. The consent prompt. Man, it's main purpose of UAC to warn user! Turning that off basically means turning UAC off. 2. Secure Desktop. This is what protects UAC from being tricked by malware. During UAC beta testing it became clear that you can write a program that will agree to consent without your intervention by interacting with UAC prompt thus circumventing UAC protection. Secure Desktop eliminates this risk by limiting the ability to interact with UAC prompt to only console I/O (keyboard/mouse). No other programs can access UAC pop-up window when SD is on. -- Alexander Suhovey "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > > ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC "...Mac truck..." LOL! "William" <woogles@charter.net> wrote in message news:%23wKiIW5JHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... What are you, some freakin idiot??? Why are you telling people how to eliminate one of the layers of security in Vista??? Does it really bother you so much to have to acknowledge a few prompts??? Why don't you tell people that what they are doing is leaving a hole in their security big enough to drive a Mac truck through. People, pay no attention to this moronic advise and do not disable UAC. The little bother it is to acknowledge a UAC prompt is nothing compared to the time it takes to fix a computer infested with malware, spyware, worms, trojans, and viruses. "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eblq5C3JHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > If you still want to be annoyed a bit, but not as much you could try this one: http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=107 ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC "...Mac truck..." LOL! "William" <woogles@charter.net> wrote in message news:%23wKiIW5JHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... What are you, some freakin idiot??? Why are you telling people how to eliminate one of the layers of security in Vista??? Does it really bother you so much to have to acknowledge a few prompts??? Why don't you tell people that what they are doing is leaving a hole in their security big enough to drive a Mac truck through. People, pay no attention to this moronic advise and do not disable UAC. The little bother it is to acknowledge a UAC prompt is nothing compared to the time it takes to fix a computer infested with malware, spyware, worms, trojans, and viruses. "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eblq5C3JHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > If you still want to be annoyed a bit, but not as much you could try this one: http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=107 ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC Hmm... after reading the article and other's posts... don't think I would do this. UAC bugged me in Beta and RC drops, but it's gotten better in RTM, i.e., no 5 second black screens while waiting for the UAC dlg to pop. If UAC offers me a higher level of security, then I'll deal with the dlg's. Far better, IMHO, than having to rebuild my seat because it got trashed by a trojan or virus or whatever. I'd much rather see security handled by the OS. I read an article, sorry don't have a link, forget the site but it was either PC Mag, or InfoWorld or a site of that ilk... in which it was stated that AV programs fail more often than they succeed at protecting PC's. Just downloaded and installed Avast last night... when my subscriptions to SAV and McAffee run out, they'll be replaced by Avast. Shoot, if all AV's do a less than stellar job of protecting against threats, then why pay for one? But that's another thread entirely... Personally, I don't have a problem with the UAC dlgs. Not knocking you for having a differing opinion on the matter, jes' throwing my two cents in... Lang "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > > ss. |
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| Re: Do this instead of disabling UAC Hmm... after reading the article and other's posts... don't think I would do this. UAC bugged me in Beta and RC drops, but it's gotten better in RTM, i.e., no 5 second black screens while waiting for the UAC dlg to pop. If UAC offers me a higher level of security, then I'll deal with the dlg's. Far better, IMHO, than having to rebuild my seat because it got trashed by a trojan or virus or whatever. I'd much rather see security handled by the OS. I read an article, sorry don't have a link, forget the site but it was either PC Mag, or InfoWorld or a site of that ilk... in which it was stated that AV programs fail more often than they succeed at protecting PC's. Just downloaded and installed Avast last night... when my subscriptions to SAV and McAffee run out, they'll be replaced by Avast. Shoot, if all AV's do a less than stellar job of protecting against threats, then why pay for one? But that's another thread entirely... Personally, I don't have a problem with the UAC dlgs. Not knocking you for having a differing opinion on the matter, jes' throwing my two cents in... Lang "Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message news:eofw592JHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I can't live with the UAC prompts, so I had it turned off. But I just came >across this tweak to keep UAC active while turning the prompts off. >Security Centre still reports that UAC is turned off, but it seems to be >working as you can see that IE7 runs in Protected Mode. > > http://www.tweakvista.eu/show_tweak.php?tweak=84 > > ss. |
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