Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my hard
drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new system
so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock when I
found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even though
I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one machine
(my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine. The
guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I did
not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I turned
to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy of
a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual core
machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to do.
I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My neighbor
said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I play
games on my Xbox so no problem there.

Jim

Some people like me have 3 year old systems that are more than capable of
running Windows Vista.

Yes, I am finally glad MSFT is clamping down on priacy.

Also, if your system was that old. You should have stuck with 32bit Windows
XP Home or Pro.

But glad you got a dual core that is capable of handling it. Enjoy.

"Jim" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
> was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my hard
> drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new system
> so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock when I
> found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even though
> I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one machine
> (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine. The
> guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
> this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I did
> not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I turned
> to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy of
> a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual core
> machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
> Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
> stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to do.
> I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My neighbor
> said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I play
> games on my Xbox so no problem there.
>
> Jim[/color]

Jim wrote:[color=blue]
> Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
> was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my hard
> drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new system
> so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock when I
> found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even though
> I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one machine
> (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine. The
> guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
> this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I did
> not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I turned
> to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy of
> a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual core
> machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
> Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
> stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to do.
> I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My neighbor
> said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I play
> games on my Xbox so no problem there.
>
> Jim[/color]

I tried to install Urbuntu on my computer and it wouldn't recognize my
Matrox P750 video card and would not install. I'm sure a few people find
linux ok but it is not for me and seems not to be for the masses.
I have three versions of Vista installed and just really like it!
All of my software works and I have no problems with any hardware drivers.
Vista is a very good operating system.
Frank (a real Vista user)

I guess you haven't figured out how to use newsgroups in the Ubuntu supplied
email program as you are posting directly to the crappy web newsgroup
interface.

Go troll elsewhere.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B657249D-E5DB-40B9-8B77-ECB73B98F46A@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
> was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my
> hard
> drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new
> system
> so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock
> when I
> found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even
> though
> I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one
> machine
> (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine.
> The
> guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
> this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I
> did
> not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I
> turned
> to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy
> of
> a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual
> core
> machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
> Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
> stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to
> do.
> I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My
> neighbor
> said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I
> play
> games on my Xbox so no problem there.
>
> Jim[/color]

I would have prefered Vista too. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying Ubuntu
is better than Vista - its just that I can't afford to buy a second copy
right now. Maybe later I will. You must be rich, Frank!

"Frank" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Jim wrote:[color=green]
> > Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
> > was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my hard
> > drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new system
> > so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock when I
> > found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even though
> > I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one machine
> > (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine. The
> > guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
> > this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I did
> > not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I turned
> > to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy of
> > a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual core
> > machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
> > Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
> > stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to do.
> > I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My neighbor
> > said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I play
> > games on my Xbox so no problem there.
> >
> > Jim[/color]
>
> I tried to install Urbuntu on my computer and it wouldn't recognize my
> Matrox P750 video card and would not install. I'm sure a few people find
> linux ok but it is not for me and seems not to be for the masses.
> I have three versions of Vista installed and just really like it!
> All of my software works and I have no problems with any hardware drivers.
> Vista is a very good operating system.
> Frank (a real Vista user)
>[/color]

Windows has always required that you buy a license for each PC - was this
news to you ?

--

Mike Brannigan
"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D87997E0-0BE6-459C-8086-3A31B14456E2@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I would have prefered Vista too. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying
>Ubuntu
> is better than Vista - its just that I can't afford to buy a second copy
> right now. Maybe later I will. You must be rich, Frank!
>
> "Frank" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Jim wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that
>> > it
>> > was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and
>> > my hard
>> > drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new
>> > system
>> > so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock
>> > when I
>> > found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even
>> > though
>> > I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one
>> > machine
>> > (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new
>> > machine. The
>> > guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain
>> > that
>> > this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I
>> > did
>> > not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I
>> > turned
>> > to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a
>> > copy of
>> > a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual
>> > core
>> > machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of
>> > Open
>> > Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot
>> > of
>> > stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need
>> > to do.
>> > I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My
>> > neighbor
>> > said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I
>> > play
>> > games on my Xbox so no problem there.
>> >
>> > Jim[/color]
>>
>> I tried to install Urbuntu on my computer and it wouldn't recognize my
>> Matrox P750 video card and would not install. I'm sure a few people find
>> linux ok but it is not for me and seems not to be for the masses.
>> I have three versions of Vista installed and just really like it!
>> All of my software works and I have no problems with any hardware
>> drivers.
>> Vista is a very good operating system.
>> Frank (a real Vista user)
>>[/color][/color]

=?Utf-8?B?Smlt?= <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:B657249D-E5DB-40B9-8B77-ECB73B98F46A@microsoft.com:
[color=blue]
> ade the decision to build a new system
> so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock
> when I found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer
> - even though I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only
> install on one machine (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of
> Vista for my new machin[/color]

What "guy" were you talking to? If you remove vista from the old machine,
then call Microsoft you should be able to get authorization to install the
OS on your new system.

does your friend know how to dual boot Ubuntu 7.04 and Windows Vista without
having to reinstalling Vista and creating a partition or using any partition
programs.

"Jim" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
> was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my hard
> drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new system
> so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock when I
> found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even though
> I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one machine
> (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine. The
> guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
> this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I did
> not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I turned
> to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy of
> a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual core
> machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
> Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
> stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to do.
> I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My neighbor
> said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I play
> games on my Xbox so no problem there.
>
> Jim[/color]

Jim wrote:
[color=blue]
> I would have prefered Vista too. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying Ubuntu
> is better than Vista - its just that I can't afford to buy a second copy
> right now. Maybe later I will. You must be rich, Frank![/color]

No I'm not rich. I have a small business and Vista is a part of my
business expense. I must be able to interface with the rest of the
business world otherwise I'm dead in the water, so to speak. I can't
efficiently or effectively do that with any distro of linux.
Frank

The "guy" was someone in sales and he said that I have to buy a separate copy
for each machine I have. He said that this is not a new policy but Microsoft
has always had this policy. Since I already had put it on my old machine I
could not put it on another machine. I realize that Microsoft has probably
lost a lot of money through piracy and I guess thats the reason for this.

"Red Swingline Stapler" wrote:
[color=blue]
> =?Utf-8?B?Smlt?= <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:B657249D-E5DB-40B9-8B77-ECB73B98F46A@microsoft.com:
>[color=green]
> > ade the decision to build a new system
> > so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock
> > when I found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer
> > - even though I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only
> > install on one machine (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of
> > Vista for my new machin[/color]
>
> What "guy" were you talking to? If you remove vista from the old machine,
> then call Microsoft you should be able to get authorization to install the
> OS on your new system.
>[/color]

Frank <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in
news:#EUpm4kkHHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
[color=blue]
> Jim wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I would have prefered Vista too. Don't get me wrong. I am not
>> saying Ubuntu is better than Vista - its just that I can't afford to
>> buy a second copy right now. Maybe later I will. You must be rich,
>> Frank![/color]
>
> No I'm not rich. I have a small business and Vista is a part of my
> business expense. I must be able to interface with the rest of the
> business world otherwise I'm dead in the water, so to speak. I can't
> efficiently or effectively do that with any distro of linux.
> Frank[/color]

Based simply on a lack of drivers for your video card.

Next time, do the proper research FIRST before trying to install an OS on
hardware that doesn't have the proper drivers.

(Sound familiar ?)

I'm using my Thinkpad with XP and not Ubuntu, so what am I doing wrong with
the newsgroup interface? It does seem kind of klunky.

"Richard Urban" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I guess you haven't figured out how to use newsgroups in the Ubuntu supplied
> email program as you are posting directly to the crappy web newsgroup
> interface.
>
> Go troll elsewhere.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B657249D-E5DB-40B9-8B77-ECB73B98F46A@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
> > was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my
> > hard
> > drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new
> > system
> > so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock
> > when I
> > found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even
> > though
> > I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one
> > machine
> > (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine.
> > The
> > guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
> > this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I
> > did
> > not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I
> > turned
> > to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy
> > of
> > a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual
> > core
> > machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
> > Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
> > stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to
> > do.
> > I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My
> > neighbor
> > said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I
> > play
> > games on my Xbox so no problem there.
> >
> > Jim[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B657249D-E5DB-40B9-8B77-ECB73B98F46A@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
> was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my
> hard
> drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new
> system
> so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock
> when I
> found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even
> though
> I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one
> machine
> (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine.
> The
> guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
> this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I
> did
> not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I
> turned
> to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy
> of
> a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual
> core
> machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
> Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
> stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to
> do.
> I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My
> neighbor
> said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I
> play
> games on my Xbox so no problem there.
>
> Jim[/color]

First, let's qualify the problem. WHAT VERSION of Vista did you buy? Was
it OEM?

If it was OEM then yes, you screwed yourself when you installed it on the
old machine. No getting around that one.

If it was full retail then there is no reason AT ALL that you could not
reinstall on upgraded hardware and who ever you spoke to lied to you.

On Wed, 09 May 2007 07:45:04 -0700, Frank wrote:
[color=blue]
> Jim wrote:[color=green]
>> Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that it
>> was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and my hard
>> drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new system
>> so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock when I
>> found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even though
>> I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one machine
>> (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new machine. The
>> guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain that
>> this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I did
>> not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I turned
>> to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a copy of
>> a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual core
>> machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of Open
>> Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot of
>> stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need to do.
>> I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My neighbor
>> said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I play
>> games on my Xbox so no problem there.
>>
>> Jim[/color]
>
> I tried to install Urbuntu on my computer and it wouldn't recognize my
> Matrox P750 video card and would not install. I'm sure a few people find
> linux ok but it is not for me and seems not to be for the masses.[/color]

I beg to differ. Installed Linux on the public access internet computers
at the local library two years ago. Since then we've added five more Linux
seats. The patrons adapted easily without instruction, and we've had no
complaints. The director previously was called to the floor several times
per day to help patrons with internet difficulties - since Linux, no
calls. It just works and everyone is quite happy. The machines are usually
very busy from opening to closing every day. Installed OpenOffice.org,
AbiWord and Gnumeric and most frequently used browser plugins and all is
cool. Count now is: 9 Linux seats, 1 MS.

[color=blue]
> I have three versions of Vista installed and just really like it!
> All of my software works and I have no problems with any hardware drivers.
> Vista is a very good operating system.
> Frank (a real Vista user)[/color]

The Windows Mail newsgroup interface was harmed by an update (KB931768)
originating from Microsoft on 05/08/2007.

Other than that, Use Windows Mail to setup and work with the newsgroups
instead of the web interface. You can keep better track of what is being
posted and the responses to the original posts.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4339E7FB-DC80-4248-B1A3-680FA84C99DC@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I'm using my Thinkpad with XP and not Ubuntu, so what am I doing wrong
> with
> the newsgroup interface? It does seem kind of klunky.
>
> "Richard Urban" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I guess you haven't figured out how to use newsgroups in the Ubuntu
>> supplied
>> email program as you are posting directly to the crappy web newsgroup
>> interface.
>>
>> Go troll elsewhere.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B657249D-E5DB-40B9-8B77-ECB73B98F46A@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Like a lot of people when I installed Vista on my computer I found that
>> > it
>> > was underqualified for Vista. My CPU was too slow (Athlon 1.5gig)and
>> > my
>> > hard
>> > drive was too small (25 gig). So I made the decision to build a new
>> > system
>> > so I could take advantage of the cool features of Vista. What a shock
>> > when I
>> > found Microsoft would not authenticate Vista on my new computer - even
>> > though
>> > I had salvaged the old computer. It said I could only install on one
>> > machine
>> > (my old one) and I needed to buy a new copy of Vista for my new
>> > machine.
>> > The
>> > guy said they are really clamping down on piracy. I tried to explain
>> > that
>> > this wasnt piracy but an honest effort to get the most out of Vista. I
>> > did
>> > not prevail. Faced with a new machine without an operating system I
>> > turned
>> > to my neighbor who is a computer guru and he loaned me a cdrom with a
>> > copy
>> > of
>> > a funny sounding program called Ubuntu? I installed it on my new dual
>> > core
>> > machine and is really great and it FLIES. He also gave me a copy of
>> > Open
>> > Office as my wife is an elementary school teacher and needs to do a lot
>> > of
>> > stuff for school. It to is amazingly fast and does everthing we need
>> > to
>> > do.
>> > I am not happy with Microsoft but at least I found a workaround. My
>> > neighbor
>> > said the workaround wont help for games as they need Vista or XP but I
>> > play
>> > games on my Xbox so no problem there.
>> >
>> > Jim[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]