I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
What a piece of crap!
Frank

Join the club, I upgrade my computer to high-end everything except the 3 year
old 3400+ AMD64 processor.

I go to install Fedora Linux and it tells me that the graphics card is not
supported. I go on to ATI's website and it doesn't have drivers for my
graphics card in Linux 32 or 64 bit form. Oh, my graphics card is ATI's
current top of the line X1950 Pro.

"Frank" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
> can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
> What a piece of crap!
> Frank
>[/color]

(FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this thread)

All the recent discussions about Ubuntu had gotten me curious,
so 2 nights ago, I booted from an Ubuntu CD to see what it's like.

At first I did get a thrill simply running Linux, just because I had
never done it before (I'm a real Non-techie when it comes to code), then as
I poked
around, I saw that the interface was kind of bland and boring.

I myself have nothing against Linux (nor Bill Gates for that matter), but I
have come to the conclusion that there is just as much hype around the Linux
stuff as there
is around anything else in the tech world. For instance, right away, my
wireless
didn't work, but I didn't spend too much time on it either. I was mainly
poking around.

Linux does take time to learn, and I sense that the open source aspect (and
maybe
the price as well) give people who use Linux more of a sense of control. And
while
there is nothing wrong with that, I do think it's wrong for Linux disciples
to go around
peddling this as if it were a simple switch over - "Oh, use Ubuntu! It's
Free!"

It's like saying to someone who is clearly not computer savvy, "Oh, just go
into the Bios
and make these changes and you'll be fine!" It's very misguided.

Now, I have Vista on this laptop upon which I was tinkering with Ubuntu and
I have
2 partitions on the hard drive. I did try to install Ubuntu on the 2nd
partition, and I will say
the install is fairly easy, but even here, I got to the point where I was
telling Ubuntu which
partition to install upon and I hit a block there, so I never finished the
install.

As I said in another post, Vista may have a lot of graphic eye candy, but we
look at our screens
a lot when we're at a computer, so it's worth it to have a nice looking
graphic interface.

I applaud Vista for up-ing the bar when it comes to making better looking
desktop graphics.
It's long overdue. Here is where Vista clearly surpases the Mac.

Thanks, Frank Bright





"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
news:uVvTgGkkHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It can't
>recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
> What a piece of crap!
> Frank[/color]

You could run it under Vista inside Virtual PC 2007, being that its free.

"Frank Bright" wrote:
[color=blue]
> (FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this thread)
>
> All the recent discussions about Ubuntu had gotten me curious,
> so 2 nights ago, I booted from an Ubuntu CD to see what it's like.
>
> At first I did get a thrill simply running Linux, just because I had
> never done it before (I'm a real Non-techie when it comes to code), then as
> I poked
> around, I saw that the interface was kind of bland and boring.
>
> I myself have nothing against Linux (nor Bill Gates for that matter), but I
> have come to the conclusion that there is just as much hype around the Linux
> stuff as there
> is around anything else in the tech world. For instance, right away, my
> wireless
> didn't work, but I didn't spend too much time on it either. I was mainly
> poking around.
>
> Linux does take time to learn, and I sense that the open source aspect (and
> maybe
> the price as well) give people who use Linux more of a sense of control. And
> while
> there is nothing wrong with that, I do think it's wrong for Linux disciples
> to go around
> peddling this as if it were a simple switch over - "Oh, use Ubuntu! It's
> Free!"
>
> It's like saying to someone who is clearly not computer savvy, "Oh, just go
> into the Bios
> and make these changes and you'll be fine!" It's very misguided.
>
> Now, I have Vista on this laptop upon which I was tinkering with Ubuntu and
> I have
> 2 partitions on the hard drive. I did try to install Ubuntu on the 2nd
> partition, and I will say
> the install is fairly easy, but even here, I got to the point where I was
> telling Ubuntu which
> partition to install upon and I hit a block there, so I never finished the
> install.
>
> As I said in another post, Vista may have a lot of graphic eye candy, but we
> look at our screens
> a lot when we're at a computer, so it's worth it to have a nice looking
> graphic interface.
>
> I applaud Vista for up-ing the bar when it comes to making better looking
> desktop graphics.
> It's long overdue. Here is where Vista clearly surpases the Mac.
>
> Thanks, Frank Bright
>
>
>
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:uVvTgGkkHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> >I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It can't
> >recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
> > What a piece of crap!
> > Frank[/color]
>
>[/color]

On Wed, 09 May 2007 06:55:07 -0700, Frank wrote:
[color=blue]
> I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
> can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
> What a piece of crap!
> Frank[/color]

That's been my general impression - the Matrox P750 is indeed a piece of
crap.

Frank Bright wrote:
[color=blue]
> (FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this thread)
>
> All the recent discussions about Ubuntu had gotten me curious,
> so 2 nights ago, I booted from an Ubuntu CD to see what it's like.
>
> At first I did get a thrill simply running Linux, just because I had
> never done it before (I'm a real Non-techie when it comes to code), then
> as I poked
> around, I saw that the interface was kind of bland and boring.
>
> I myself have nothing against Linux (nor Bill Gates for that matter), but I
> have come to the conclusion that there is just as much hype around the
> Linux stuff as there
> is around anything else in the tech world. For instance, right away, my
> wireless
> didn't work, but I didn't spend too much time on it either. I was mainly
> poking around.
>
> Linux does take time to learn, and I sense that the open source aspect
> (and maybe
> the price as well) give people who use Linux more of a sense of control.
> And while
> there is nothing wrong with that, I do think it's wrong for Linux
> disciples to go around
> peddling this as if it were a simple switch over - "Oh, use Ubuntu! It's
> Free!"
>
> It's like saying to someone who is clearly not computer savvy, "Oh, just
> go into the Bios
> and make these changes and you'll be fine!" It's very misguided.
>
> Now, I have Vista on this laptop upon which I was tinkering with Ubuntu
> and I have
> 2 partitions on the hard drive. I did try to install Ubuntu on the 2nd
> partition, and I will say
> the install is fairly easy, but even here, I got to the point where I
> was telling Ubuntu which
> partition to install upon and I hit a block there, so I never finished
> the install.
>
> As I said in another post, Vista may have a lot of graphic eye candy,
> but we look at our screens
> a lot when we're at a computer, so it's worth it to have a nice looking
> graphic interface.
>
> I applaud Vista for up-ing the bar when it comes to making better
> looking desktop graphics.
> It's long overdue. Here is where Vista clearly surpases the Mac.
>
> Thanks, Frank Bright[/color]

Well at least you got it to install (well sort of). I tried but I didn't
get anywhere with it.
Frank (the other one)

ray wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Wed, 09 May 2007 06:55:07 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
>>can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
>>What a piece of crap!
>>Frank[/color]
>
>
> That's been my general impression - the Matrox P750 is indeed a piece of
> crap.
>[/color]

So how did you get ubuntu to install using your Matrox P750 video card?
Frank

Frank Bright wrote:[color=blue]
> (FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this thread)[/color]
so I never finished[color=blue]
> the install.[/color]

Yet you comment on it like you did.

Alias

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
> can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
> What a piece of crap!
> Frank[/color]

Vista has problems with video cards too. How come you're not calling
Vista a piece of crap? Maybe, like Justin, you need an eight year old to
help you install Ubuntu.

Alias

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> ray wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Wed, 09 May 2007 06:55:07 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
>>> can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
>>> What a piece of crap!
>>> Frank[/color]
>>
>>
>> That's been my general impression - the Matrox P750 is indeed a piece of
>> crap.
>>[/color]
>
> So how did you get ubuntu to install using your Matrox P750 video card?
> Frank[/color]

Why would he use a piece of crap? Try an ATI card.

Alias

On Wed, 9 May 2007 07:58:05 -0700, Sasha
<Sasha@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>You could run it under Vista inside Virtual PC 2007, being that its free.
>[/color]

If you add the cost of the Vista anytime upgrade to run Virtual PC
2007 to run the free Ubuntu... is that really free? You just end up
paying more to MS and you still have no guarantee that Ubuntu will
work on your virtual pc.

Al

Good post. While I really like Ubuntu, I'm also a geek. I like to play
around with it. For a real Linux challenge, try Gentoo. You can customize it
to exactly how you want it, but you need to know what you are doing. Linux
can look awesome, but you have to do your homework and be somewhat of a
geek.

Vista has a much smaller learning curve.

I love Vista, but I don't hate the other operating systems. Linux has it's
place, but I don't see it replacing Windows on the desktop any time soon. If
you think Vista has compatibility problems, try using a custom driver
developed from some guy in Germany that only offers the source code that
needs compiled with no support or docs on how to do it... That happens
frequently in Linux...

--
Dustin Harper
[email]dharper@vistarip.com[/email]
[url]http://www.vistarip.com[/url]

--
"Frank Bright" <Brightbelt@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%236hdVjkkHHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> (FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this
> thread)
>
> All the recent discussions about Ubuntu had gotten me curious,
> so 2 nights ago, I booted from an Ubuntu CD to see what it's like.
>
> At first I did get a thrill simply running Linux, just because I had
> never done it before (I'm a real Non-techie when it comes to code), then
> as I poked
> around, I saw that the interface was kind of bland and boring.
>
> I myself have nothing against Linux (nor Bill Gates for that matter), but
> I
> have come to the conclusion that there is just as much hype around the
> Linux stuff as there
> is around anything else in the tech world. For instance, right away, my
> wireless
> didn't work, but I didn't spend too much time on it either. I was mainly
> poking around.
>
> Linux does take time to learn, and I sense that the open source aspect
> (and maybe
> the price as well) give people who use Linux more of a sense of control.
> And while
> there is nothing wrong with that, I do think it's wrong for Linux
> disciples to go around
> peddling this as if it were a simple switch over - "Oh, use Ubuntu! It's
> Free!"
>
> It's like saying to someone who is clearly not computer savvy, "Oh, just
> go into the Bios
> and make these changes and you'll be fine!" It's very misguided.
>
> Now, I have Vista on this laptop upon which I was tinkering with Ubuntu
> and I have
> 2 partitions on the hard drive. I did try to install Ubuntu on the 2nd
> partition, and I will say
> the install is fairly easy, but even here, I got to the point where I was
> telling Ubuntu which
> partition to install upon and I hit a block there, so I never finished the
> install.
>
> As I said in another post, Vista may have a lot of graphic eye candy, but
> we look at our screens
> a lot when we're at a computer, so it's worth it to have a nice looking
> graphic interface.
>
> I applaud Vista for up-ing the bar when it comes to making better looking
> desktop graphics.
> It's long overdue. Here is where Vista clearly surpases the Mac.
>
> Thanks, Frank Bright
>
>
>
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:uVvTgGkkHHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
>>can't
>>recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
>> What a piece of crap!
>> Frank[/color]
>[/color]

On Wed, 09 May 2007 08:26:33 -0700, Frank wrote:
[color=blue]
> ray wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Wed, 09 May 2007 06:55:07 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
>>>can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
>>>What a piece of crap!
>>>Frank[/color]
>>
>>
>> That's been my general impression - the Matrox P750 is indeed a piece of
>> crap.
>>[/color]
>
> So how did you get ubuntu to install using your Matrox P750 video card?
> Frank[/color]

There are approximately 369 other Linux distributions available. Any
decent video card will work with the vesa driver for starters. You can
fiddle later.

A failed install process is enough to make people shy away from a product
that YOU recommend so entheusiastically.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Alias" <aka@aka.cl> wrote in message news:f1sq5n$glg$2@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Frank Bright wrote:[color=green]
>> (FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this
>> thread)[/color]
> so I never finished[color=green]
>> the install.[/color]
>
> Yet you comment on it like you did.
>
> Alias[/color]

Frank wrote:[color=blue]
> I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
> can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
> What a piece of crap!
> Frank[/color]

You need a new pair of glasses - you can't even recognize the sequence
of letters "u b u n t u";-)
Maybe you wish to upgrade to a Millennium G550 or G400;-)

r O y