But they did allow them to bootcamp Windows on to the MAC, infact given the
two OS'es are apparently the same it'll be an easy transition for Apple
users when Apple stops coding OS'es and they are left with Windows:-)

(For all I know OS X could be the best computing experience ever, I'll
likely never know)
Colin T
"Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message
news:%23wPis5uJHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> And to think I almost bought a Mac. Hell, I did buy a Mac! It's called
> Vista. So, with Microsoft, I get the best of both worlds for a single low
> price. Has Apple thought enough to copy Windows for its Mac customers? I
> think not!
>
> Dale
>
> "NewFox" <-> wrote in message
> news:%232NzH6sJHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> VISTA IS NOT A RIPOFF and here is proof
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT6YO30GhmQ
>>
>

Chad Harris wrote:

> Sychophants Anonymous!!! Faster than the Bonesmen in The Good Shepher
> to stand up and be counted for Deal 'Ole Redmond:

Hey...get your own sword to fall on ok, mines already being used.
Frank

I have never used OSX but I did support a bunch of Macs years ago at an
advertising agency. At that time, Mac didn't multitask or support virtual
memory. They were real dogs. I know OSX is better but it still has the one
thing I could never get accustomed to: the single button mouse. What a
waste of time that is: a 5 function controller (the fingers) wasted on a one
function control.

Dale

<Colin Thompson> wrote in message
news:A0BB58C7-FDB5-4946-92C6-4982A3B23C65@microsoft.com...
> But they did allow them to bootcamp Windows on to the MAC, infact given
> the two OS'es are apparently the same it'll be an easy transition for
> Apple users when Apple stops coding OS'es and they are left with
> Windows:-)
>
> (For all I know OS X could be the best computing experience ever, I'll
> likely never know)
> Colin T
> "Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever> wrote in message
> news:%23wPis5uJHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> And to think I almost bought a Mac. Hell, I did buy a Mac! It's called
>> Vista. So, with Microsoft, I get the best of both worlds for a single
>> low price. Has Apple thought enough to copy Windows for its Mac
>> customers? I think not!
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> "NewFox" <-> wrote in message
>> news:%232NzH6sJHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> VISTA IS NOT A RIPOFF and here is proof
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT6YO30GhmQ
>>>
>>
>

Chad Harris wrote:

> Sychophants Anonymous!!! Faster than the Bonesmen in The Good Shepher
> to stand up and be counted for Deal 'Ole Redmond:

Hey...get your own sword to fall on ok, mines already being used.
Frank

> I could never get accustomed to: the single button mouse. What a
> waste of time that is: a 5 function controller (the fingers) wasted on a
> one function control.

If you never used Mac OS X why talking about single mouse button? I use mac
os X, vista copied even the screen saver of mac os X, thats the truth.
And for what about the single mouse button, if there is only one is because
the mac os philosphy, not because at cupertino they like to create trubles
to users....

> I could never get accustomed to: the single button mouse. What a
> waste of time that is: a 5 function controller (the fingers) wasted on a
> one function control.

If you never used Mac OS X why talking about single mouse button? I use mac
os X, vista copied even the screen saver of mac os X, thats the truth.
And for what about the single mouse button, if there is only one is because
the mac os philosphy, not because at cupertino they like to create trubles
to users....

You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they are
not
exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the eye.
And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball, leaving you
to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.

This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in functionality
and design.

You should shut up and start learning.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA

I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
insult to human intelligence.


"Davide" <davide.benatti******.com> wrote in message
news:OqIwj9vJHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> I could never get accustomed to: the single button mouse. What a
>> waste of time that is: a 5 function controller (the fingers) wasted on a
>> one function control.
>
> If you never used Mac OS X why talking about single mouse button? I use
> mac os X, vista copied even the screen saver of mac os X, thats the truth.
> And for what about the single mouse button, if there is only one is
> because the mac os philosphy, not because at cupertino they like to create
> trubles to users....

You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they are
not
exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the eye.
And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball, leaving you
to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.

This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in functionality
and design.

You should shut up and start learning.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA

I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
insult to human intelligence.


"Davide" <davide.benatti******.com> wrote in message
news:OqIwj9vJHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> I could never get accustomed to: the single button mouse. What a
>> waste of time that is: a 5 function controller (the fingers) wasted on a
>> one function control.
>
> If you never used Mac OS X why talking about single mouse button? I use
> mac os X, vista copied even the screen saver of mac os X, thats the truth.
> And for what about the single mouse button, if there is only one is
> because the mac os philosphy, not because at cupertino they like to create
> trubles to users....

> You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they
> are
> not
> exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the
> eye. And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball,
> leaving you to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.
>
> This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in
> functionality and design.
>
> You should shut up and start learning.
>
> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA
>
> I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
> insult to human intelligence.
>


NewFox, were you talking to me or the answer was for Dale?

Even My Logitech G7 cordless mouse as got 6 buttons, but what does this
mean? I thought Dale was talking about the fact there is not a left mouse
button AND right mouse button, with all the differences that this fact can
influence in the use of the Operating System.

Ohh, and if you never used mac os x, don't try to teach to OS user.

> You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they
> are
> not
> exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the
> eye. And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball,
> leaving you to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.
>
> This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in
> functionality and design.
>
> You should shut up and start learning.
>
> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA
>
> I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
> insult to human intelligence.
>


NewFox, were you talking to me or the answer was for Dale?

Even My Logitech G7 cordless mouse as got 6 buttons, but what does this
mean? I thought Dale was talking about the fact there is not a left mouse
button AND right mouse button, with all the differences that this fact can
influence in the use of the Operating System.

Ohh, and if you never used mac os x, don't try to teach to OS user.

>The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5.

So, does that mean that it is a ripoff from PC mouses since it's always been
one-button? :-)

As for functionality, I would argue that touch panels are superior to
buttons that you can feel/distinguish by touch. I was using several devices
that implement touch-sensitive surfaces instead of buttons (including MP3
players, PDAs and laptops) and found that the only area this idea is
superior (in current implementations) is an outfit. It looks really great
and cool but it's not practical.

For example, I had serious problems trying to operate my Qumo Evo on the go.
(http://www.qumo-audio.com/products/evo/)

--
Alexander Suhovey

"NewFox" <-> wrote in message news:ODaH$D1JHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they
> are not
> exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the
> eye. And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball,
> leaving you to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.
>
> This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in
> functionality and design.
>
> You should shut up and start learning.
>
> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA
>
> I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
> insult to human intelligence.
>
>
> "Davide" <davide.benatti******.com> wrote in message
> news:OqIwj9vJHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> I could never get accustomed to: the single button mouse. What a
>>> waste of time that is: a 5 function controller (the fingers) wasted on a
>>> one function control.
>>
>> If you never used Mac OS X why talking about single mouse button? I use
>> mac os X, vista copied even the screen saver of mac os X, thats the
>> truth.
>> And for what about the single mouse button, if there is only one is
>> because the mac os philosphy, not because at cupertino they like to
>> create trubles to users....
>
>

>The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5.

So, does that mean that it is a ripoff from PC mouses since it's always been
one-button? :-)

As for functionality, I would argue that touch panels are superior to
buttons that you can feel/distinguish by touch. I was using several devices
that implement touch-sensitive surfaces instead of buttons (including MP3
players, PDAs and laptops) and found that the only area this idea is
superior (in current implementations) is an outfit. It looks really great
and cool but it's not practical.

For example, I had serious problems trying to operate my Qumo Evo on the go.
(http://www.qumo-audio.com/products/evo/)

--
Alexander Suhovey

"NewFox" <-> wrote in message news:ODaH$D1JHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they
> are not
> exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the
> eye. And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball,
> leaving you to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.
>
> This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in
> functionality and design.
>
> You should shut up and start learning.
>
> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA
>
> I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
> insult to human intelligence.
>
>
> "Davide" <davide.benatti******.com> wrote in message
> news:OqIwj9vJHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> I could never get accustomed to: the single button mouse. What a
>>> waste of time that is: a 5 function controller (the fingers) wasted on a
>>> one function control.
>>
>> If you never used Mac OS X why talking about single mouse button? I use
>> mac os X, vista copied even the screen saver of mac os X, thats the
>> truth.
>> And for what about the single mouse button, if there is only one is
>> because the mac os philosphy, not because at cupertino they like to
>> create trubles to users....
>
>

There is a right and left button, as I said again and provided the link,
so you can understand the function of the mouse,
the area where the buttons should be is a pressure sensitive area,
that detects your finger, and functions as left and right button
according to where you press.



"Davide" <davide.benatti******.com> wrote in message
news:eOfbKj1JHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they
>> are
>> not
>> exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the
>> eye. And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball,
>> leaving you to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.
>>
>> This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in
>> functionality and design.
>>
>> You should shut up and start learning.
>>
>> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA
>>
>> I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
>> insult to human intelligence.
>>
>
>
> NewFox, were you talking to me or the answer was for Dale?
>
> Even My Logitech G7 cordless mouse as got 6 buttons, but what does this
> mean? I thought Dale was talking about the fact there is not a left mouse
> button AND right mouse button, with all the differences that this fact can
> influence in the use of the Operating System.
>
> Ohh, and if you never used mac os x, don't try to teach to OS user.

There is a right and left button, as I said again and provided the link,
so you can understand the function of the mouse,
the area where the buttons should be is a pressure sensitive area,
that detects your finger, and functions as left and right button
according to where you press.



"Davide" <davide.benatti******.com> wrote in message
news:eOfbKj1JHHA.3268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they
>> are
>> not
>> exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the
>> eye. And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball,
>> leaving you to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.
>>
>> This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in
>> functionality and design.
>>
>> You should shut up and start learning.
>>
>> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA
>>
>> I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
>> insult to human intelligence.
>>
>
>
> NewFox, were you talking to me or the answer was for Dale?
>
> Even My Logitech G7 cordless mouse as got 6 buttons, but what does this
> mean? I thought Dale was talking about the fact there is not a left mouse
> button AND right mouse button, with all the differences that this fact can
> influence in the use of the Operating System.
>
> Ohh, and if you never used mac os x, don't try to teach to OS user.

No kidding? I had a Microsoft 5 button mouse in 1999! It took Apple 7
years to reverse engineer it? And even at that someone spilled a trackball
in the parts box.

Dale

"NewFox" <-> wrote in message news:ODaH$D1JHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You are all wrong. The new Mac mouse has not one button but 5, and they
> are not
> exactly buttons but pressure sensitive areas that are invisible to the
> eye. And the middle button is not a scroll wheel, but a scroll ball,
> leaving you to navigate in 2 dimensions freely.
>
> This control is far superior than any microsoft mouse both in
> functionality and design.
>
> You should shut up and start learning.
>
> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...lm=MA272LL%2FA
>
> I dont use macs, but I dont like vista either. Vista is stupid, and an
> insult to human intelligence.
>
>
> "Davide" <davide.benatti******.com> wrote in message
> news:OqIwj9vJHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> I could never get accustomed to: the single button mouse. What a
>>> waste of time that is: a 5 function controller (the fingers) wasted on a
>>> one function control.
>>
>> If you never used Mac OS X why talking about single mouse button? I use
>> mac os X, vista copied even the screen saver of mac os X, thats the
>> truth.
>> And for what about the single mouse button, if there is only one is
>> because the mac os philosphy, not because at cupertino they like to
>> create trubles to users....
>
>