Keith,
I totally agree with you about vista. I also purchased a laptop with vista
installed. I am very upset with HP and their support department. I don't
care what others have said it is loaded with problems.

aointedqueen


"Keith Eckhardt" wrote:
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> I bought a laptop with Vista Home installed. What a mistake.
>
> 1) I used the MS program to transfer settings and files. Oops, lots of
> files didn't make it. Had to use other utilities to finish the job. Also,
> when it copied Outlook Express it copied all my single folders, but not the
> one that had sub-folders. Now what do I do?
>
> 2) Every time I close Windows Mail it crashes. Then every time I start it
> up again it processes every message in every folder. I'm guessing it is
> creating the indexes that it doesn't save when it crashes at close time.
>
> 3) The sidebar crashed and doesn't come back at re-boot. I don't really
> miss it, but it's un-nerving to have it crash.
>
> Vista seems to have been released more than a bit early.
>
> Keith
>
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Not to pick a fight, but I purchased a HP Pavilion DV6301eu with Vista Basic
and was very impressed with the install other than the few programs which
are there but have no hardware to support it. Also a few pointless reg
entries.
HP technical support returns my e-mails within the hour and to date has been
90% useful and 10% pointless.

When XP first came out there where just as many problems with it, it took
two service packs to get it where it was, user friendly and competent of
doing tasks and it was still backward in its thinking. My only prob with
vista is there aren't enough "classic view" options for the applications it
uses. I mean "display is now way to many *.exe's. "system properties"
also.

Why not have a simple question or two when installing or booting for the
first time:
What OS's have you used?
What level are you in respect to PC knowledge?
Would you like to copy all uninstalled programs from the setup disk to hard
drive to later avoid having to hunt through that box in the cupboard?
Would you like windows to assume you know nothing and flash you on every
click you make?
Would you like this computer to be pointlessly BLING or just practical?
Is this machine a multi boot computer or is this going to be the only OS for
now?
Would you like to take the complete step by step setup or the quick install?
etc...
From this it could then set itself appropriately for the level of the user.
Not just assume we are all idiots and need on screen prompts for simple
tasks and BLING graphics that slow down stuff.

"Anointedqueen" <Anointedqueen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5B6B73D8-AD5F-41A5-B359-6518E83719C5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Keith,
> I totally agree with you about vista. I also purchased a laptop with vista
> installed. I am very upset with HP and their support department. I don't
> care what others have said it is loaded with problems.
>
> aointedqueen
>
>
> "Keith Eckhardt" wrote:
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>> I bought a laptop with Vista Home installed. What a mistake.
>>
>> 1) I used the MS program to transfer settings and files. Oops, lots of
>> files didn't make it. Had to use other utilities to finish the job.
>> Also,
>> when it copied Outlook Express it copied all my single folders, but not
>> the
>> one that had sub-folders. Now what do I do?
>>
>> 2) Every time I close Windows Mail it crashes. Then every time I start
>> it
>> up again it processes every message in every folder. I'm guessing it is
>> creating the indexes that it doesn't save when it crashes at close time.
>>
>> 3) The sidebar crashed and doesn't come back at re-boot. I don't really
>> miss it, but it's un-nerving to have it crash.
>>
>> Vista seems to have been released more than a bit early.
>>
>> Keith
>>
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