Justin wrote:[color=blue]
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
> news:f11skr$jc6$1@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> Justin wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.de> wrote in message
>>> news:#kVYQEciHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:t9o633pqbhibespo1q3rbgct0jg2ufogm5@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:43:59 +0200, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>>>>> I tend to agree with you on this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Surprised?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pleasantly :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If activation is problematical to the point where a company is
>>>>>>>> wary of
>>>>>>>> taking a firm stance, and telling someone that they are absolutely,
>>>>>>>> without a doubt using a pirated system - what good is
>>>>>>>> activation? Anyone
>>>>>>>> persistent enough can activate by phone it seems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the problem. I am activated using key xxx. Now, your key
>>>>>>>> generating program generates the same key xxx. You can't activate
>>>>>>>> because the key is already in use. So, you make the phone call and
>>>>>>>> convince the human that you have changed M/B's, or some such.
>>>>>>>> They give
>>>>>>>> you a new key and place the original into the dustbin/recycle bin.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The next time I go to validate my system on-line it is not
>>>>>>>> "genuine"
>>>>>>>> because the number was changed by YOU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I guess the reason phone activation exists is merely to try and
>>>>>>> control the customer with more FUD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No you moronic fool... one reason for phone activation is for the
>>>>>> benefit of people that do NOT have Internet access. Has it ever
>>>>>> dawned
>>>>>> on your dim bulbs that there are millions of computers used for
>>>>>> various LEGIMATE reasons that NEVER had or will be connected to the
>>>>>> Internet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess not, that would require thinking, something trolls aren't
>>>>>> exactly known for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ding ding ding ding!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> That's ONE of the reasons alias was given in the past. Let's see
>>>>> if his memory all of a sudden comes back to him.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, now he'll backtrack and claim he meant activation in
>>>>> general (just like he did before) of which he was given reasons why
>>>>> MS choses to have an activation process.
>>>>>
>>>>> His entire argument in the past has been that pirates can break
>>>>> activation in a heartbeat so activation in general only hurts the
>>>>> paying customer. True, in it's current form it's broken and a pain
>>>>> but it DOES do it's job and alias was given a couple reasons (of
>>>>> many) how activation works to prevent piracy and NO, not everyone
>>>>> that calls will be activated. NO BLACKLISTED KEYS WILL EVER BE
>>>>> ACTIVATED VIA PHONE. Yes it's easy for a PAYING customers to get a
>>>>> blacklisted key. That's a hint to the examples alias was given.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you remember yet alias or are you going to continue to play dumb?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Um, pirated versions of XP do not need to be activated so, of
>>>> course, phone activation with pirated versions is a non issue.
>>>
>>> Yes they do. There are only TWO forms of "hacking" that keep it
>>> activated and a very very very small fraction of the population even
>>> knows of it. Plus it wasn't discovered until much later on.
>>>
>>> I had to "fix" two companies that were victims of piracy thanks for a
>>> little pop-up stating as such. MS' objective was a success.
>>>
>>> Oops, I just completely gave it away. So, do you remember yet or are
>>> you still choosing to play dumb about it?[/color]
>>
>> I guess the crackers are better in Spain. The pirated versions that
>> are circulating here do not, I repeat, do not, need to be activated.
>> Security updates are gotten via Auto Update so the WGA you are
>> referring to (and lamely trying to change the subject in the process
>> because I was asking about WPA/Phone activation, NOT WGA) is not a
>> factor.[/color]
> There is nothing lame about it. It's 100% valid. The "phone part" ties
> in.[/color]

Ties in with what?
[color=blue]
>
> Look alias you have already asked about this in the past and MANY people
> shut you down already.[/color]

False. I've asked it but no one has the answer, including you. And you
still don't because YOU DON'T KNOW!
[color=blue]
>
> It's the crap with you over and over again.
>
> You are clueless.
>[color=green]
>> So, again, if people who have legitimate copies of Windows are always
>> approved when they phone up to activate, WHAT IS THE POINT of phone
>> activation other than keeping up the FUD?[/color]
>
> For those that are NOT legitimate.[/color]

I wasn't asking about that. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
[color=blue]
> How stupid can you be? And for the
> 5th+ time NOT every get's activated. Try to actually LEARN something
> will ya?[/color]

ALL legit ones get activated and some illegitimate ones so WHAT'S THE POINT?
[color=blue]
>
> Yes alias that was an insult. Don't lame for the 1000th time and state
> the obvious.[/color]

You seem to enjoy insulting people. Do you only have the balls to do it
on newsgroups or do you do it in person as well?

Alias

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
news:f11ude$ncb$2@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Justin wrote:[color=green]
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>> news:f11skr$jc6$1@aioe.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:#kVYQEciHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:t9o633pqbhibespo1q3rbgct0jg2ufogm5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:43:59 +0200, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree with you on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Surprised?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pleasantly :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If activation is problematical to the point where a company is
>>>>>>>>> wary of
>>>>>>>>> taking a firm stance, and telling someone that they are
>>>>>>>>> absolutely,
>>>>>>>>> without a doubt using a pirated system - what good is activation?
>>>>>>>>> Anyone
>>>>>>>>> persistent enough can activate by phone it seems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the problem. I am activated using key xxx. Now, your key
>>>>>>>>> generating program generates the same key xxx. You can't activate
>>>>>>>>> because the key is already in use. So, you make the phone call and
>>>>>>>>> convince the human that you have changed M/B's, or some such. They
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>> you a new key and place the original into the dustbin/recycle bin.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The next time I go to validate my system on-line it is not
>>>>>>>>> "genuine"
>>>>>>>>> because the number was changed by YOU.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, I guess the reason phone activation exists is merely to try and
>>>>>>>> control the customer with more FUD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No you moronic fool... one reason for phone activation is for the
>>>>>>> benefit of people that do NOT have Internet access. Has it ever
>>>>>>> dawned
>>>>>>> on your dim bulbs that there are millions of computers used for
>>>>>>> various LEGIMATE reasons that NEVER had or will be connected to the
>>>>>>> Internet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess not, that would require thinking, something trolls aren't
>>>>>>> exactly known for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ding ding ding ding!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's ONE of the reasons alias was given in the past. Let's see if
>>>>>> his memory all of a sudden comes back to him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, now he'll backtrack and claim he meant activation in general
>>>>>> (just like he did before) of which he was given reasons why MS choses
>>>>>> to have an activation process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His entire argument in the past has been that pirates can break
>>>>>> activation in a heartbeat so activation in general only hurts the
>>>>>> paying customer. True, in it's current form it's broken and a pain
>>>>>> but it DOES do it's job and alias was given a couple reasons (of
>>>>>> many) how activation works to prevent piracy and NO, not everyone
>>>>>> that calls will be activated. NO BLACKLISTED KEYS WILL EVER BE
>>>>>> ACTIVATED VIA PHONE. Yes it's easy for a PAYING customers to get a
>>>>>> blacklisted key. That's a hint to the examples alias was given.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you remember yet alias or are you going to continue to play dumb?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Um, pirated versions of XP do not need to be activated so, of course,
>>>>> phone activation with pirated versions is a non issue.
>>>>
>>>> Yes they do. There are only TWO forms of "hacking" that keep it
>>>> activated and a very very very small fraction of the population even
>>>> knows of it. Plus it wasn't discovered until much later on.
>>>>
>>>> I had to "fix" two companies that were victims of piracy thanks for a
>>>> little pop-up stating as such. MS' objective was a success.
>>>>
>>>> Oops, I just completely gave it away. So, do you remember yet or are
>>>> you still choosing to play dumb about it?
>>>
>>> I guess the crackers are better in Spain. The pirated versions that are
>>> circulating here do not, I repeat, do not, need to be activated.
>>> Security updates are gotten via Auto Update so the WGA you are referring
>>> to (and lamely trying to change the subject in the process because I was
>>> asking about WPA/Phone activation, NOT WGA) is not a factor.[/color]
>> There is nothing lame about it. It's 100% valid. The "phone part" ties
>> in.[/color]
>
> Ties in with what?
>[color=green]
>>
>> Look alias you have already asked about this in the past and MANY people
>> shut you down already.[/color]
>
> False. I've asked it but no one has the answer, including you. And you
> still don't because YOU DON'T KNOW!
>[color=green]
>>
>> It's the crap with you over and over again.
>>
>> You are clueless.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> So, again, if people who have legitimate copies of Windows are always
>>> approved when they phone up to activate, WHAT IS THE POINT of phone
>>> activation other than keeping up the FUD?[/color]
>>
>> For those that are NOT legitimate.[/color]
>
> I wasn't asking about that. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
>[color=green]
>> How stupid can you be? And for the 5th+ time NOT every get's activated.
>> Try to actually LEARN something will ya?[/color]
>
> ALL legit ones get activated and some illegitimate ones so WHAT'S THE
> POINT?
>[color=green]
>>
>> Yes alias that was an insult. Don't lame for the 1000th time and state
>> the obvious.[/color]
>
> You seem to enjoy insulting people. Do you only have the balls to do it on
> newsgroups or do you do it in person as well?
>
> Alias
>[/color]

You've already been given your answer. By myself and adam of all people.

I hope one day you realize how foolish you are acting. But I doubt it.

Justin wrote:[color=blue]
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
> news:f11ude$ncb$2@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> Justin wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>>> news:f11skr$jc6$1@aioe.org...
>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.de> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#kVYQEciHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:t9o633pqbhibespo1q3rbgct0jg2ufogm5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:43:59 +0200, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree with you on this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Surprised?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pleasantly :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If activation is problematical to the point where a company is
>>>>>>>>>> wary of
>>>>>>>>>> taking a firm stance, and telling someone that they are
>>>>>>>>>> absolutely,
>>>>>>>>>> without a doubt using a pirated system - what good is
>>>>>>>>>> activation? Anyone
>>>>>>>>>> persistent enough can activate by phone it seems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the problem. I am activated using key xxx. Now, your key
>>>>>>>>>> generating program generates the same key xxx. You can't activate
>>>>>>>>>> because the key is already in use. So, you make the phone call
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> convince the human that you have changed M/B's, or some such.
>>>>>>>>>> They give
>>>>>>>>>> you a new key and place the original into the dustbin/recycle
>>>>>>>>>> bin.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The next time I go to validate my system on-line it is not
>>>>>>>>>> "genuine"
>>>>>>>>>> because the number was changed by YOU.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, I guess the reason phone activation exists is merely to try
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> control the customer with more FUD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No you moronic fool... one reason for phone activation is for the
>>>>>>>> benefit of people that do NOT have Internet access. Has it ever
>>>>>>>> dawned
>>>>>>>> on your dim bulbs that there are millions of computers used for
>>>>>>>> various LEGIMATE reasons that NEVER had or will be connected to the
>>>>>>>> Internet?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess not, that would require thinking, something trolls aren't
>>>>>>>> exactly known for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ding ding ding ding!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's ONE of the reasons alias was given in the past. Let's see
>>>>>>> if his memory all of a sudden comes back to him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, now he'll backtrack and claim he meant activation in
>>>>>>> general (just like he did before) of which he was given reasons
>>>>>>> why MS choses to have an activation process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His entire argument in the past has been that pirates can break
>>>>>>> activation in a heartbeat so activation in general only hurts the
>>>>>>> paying customer. True, in it's current form it's broken and a
>>>>>>> pain but it DOES do it's job and alias was given a couple reasons
>>>>>>> (of many) how activation works to prevent piracy and NO, not
>>>>>>> everyone that calls will be activated. NO BLACKLISTED KEYS WILL
>>>>>>> EVER BE ACTIVATED VIA PHONE. Yes it's easy for a PAYING customers
>>>>>>> to get a blacklisted key. That's a hint to the examples alias
>>>>>>> was given.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you remember yet alias or are you going to continue to play dumb?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um, pirated versions of XP do not need to be activated so, of
>>>>>> course, phone activation with pirated versions is a non issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes they do. There are only TWO forms of "hacking" that keep it
>>>>> activated and a very very very small fraction of the population
>>>>> even knows of it. Plus it wasn't discovered until much later on.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had to "fix" two companies that were victims of piracy thanks for
>>>>> a little pop-up stating as such. MS' objective was a success.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oops, I just completely gave it away. So, do you remember yet or
>>>>> are you still choosing to play dumb about it?
>>>>
>>>> I guess the crackers are better in Spain. The pirated versions that
>>>> are circulating here do not, I repeat, do not, need to be activated.
>>>> Security updates are gotten via Auto Update so the WGA you are
>>>> referring to (and lamely trying to change the subject in the process
>>>> because I was asking about WPA/Phone activation, NOT WGA) is not a
>>>> factor.
>>> There is nothing lame about it. It's 100% valid. The "phone part"
>>> ties in.[/color]
>>
>> Ties in with what?
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Look alias you have already asked about this in the past and MANY
>>> people shut you down already.[/color]
>>
>> False. I've asked it but no one has the answer, including you. And you
>> still don't because YOU DON'T KNOW!
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> It's the crap with you over and over again.
>>>
>>> You are clueless.
>>>
>>>> So, again, if people who have legitimate copies of Windows are
>>>> always approved when they phone up to activate, WHAT IS THE POINT of
>>>> phone activation other than keeping up the FUD?
>>>
>>> For those that are NOT legitimate.[/color]
>>
>> I wasn't asking about that. Reading comprehension is not your strong
>> suit.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> How stupid can you be? And for the 5th+ time NOT every get's
>>> activated. Try to actually LEARN something will ya?[/color]
>>
>> ALL legit ones get activated and some illegitimate ones so WHAT'S THE
>> POINT?
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Yes alias that was an insult. Don't lame for the 1000th time and
>>> state the obvious.[/color]
>>
>> You seem to enjoy insulting people. Do you only have the balls to do
>> it on newsgroups or do you do it in person as well?
>>
>> Alias
>>[/color]
>
> You've already been given your answer. By myself and adam of all people.[/color]

Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins are
approved.
[color=blue]
> I hope one day you realize how foolish you are acting. But I doubt it.[/color]

Do you also insult people in real life or only on line? This is another
question you refuse to answer.

Alias

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
news:f121a5$hn$3@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Justin wrote:[color=green]
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>> news:f11ude$ncb$2@aioe.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Justin wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>>>> news:f11skr$jc6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.de> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:#kVYQEciHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:t9o633pqbhibespo1q3rbgct0jg2ufogm5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:43:59 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>>>> <aka@masked&anonymous.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree with you on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Surprised?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pleasantly :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If activation is problematical to the point where a company is
>>>>>>>>>>> wary of
>>>>>>>>>>> taking a firm stance, and telling someone that they are
>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely,
>>>>>>>>>>> without a doubt using a pirated system - what good is
>>>>>>>>>>> activation? Anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> persistent enough can activate by phone it seems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the problem. I am activated using key xxx. Now, your
>>>>>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>>>> generating program generates the same key xxx. You can't
>>>>>>>>>>> activate
>>>>>>>>>>> because the key is already in use. So, you make the phone call
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> convince the human that you have changed M/B's, or some such.
>>>>>>>>>>> They give
>>>>>>>>>>> you a new key and place the original into the dustbin/recycle
>>>>>>>>>>> bin.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The next time I go to validate my system on-line it is not
>>>>>>>>>>> "genuine"
>>>>>>>>>>> because the number was changed by YOU.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, I guess the reason phone activation exists is merely to try
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> control the customer with more FUD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No you moronic fool... one reason for phone activation is for the
>>>>>>>>> benefit of people that do NOT have Internet access. Has it ever
>>>>>>>>> dawned
>>>>>>>>> on your dim bulbs that there are millions of computers used for
>>>>>>>>> various LEGIMATE reasons that NEVER had or will be connected to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Internet?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess not, that would require thinking, something trolls aren't
>>>>>>>>> exactly known for.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ding ding ding ding!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's ONE of the reasons alias was given in the past. Let's see
>>>>>>>> if his memory all of a sudden comes back to him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, now he'll backtrack and claim he meant activation in
>>>>>>>> general (just like he did before) of which he was given reasons why
>>>>>>>> MS choses to have an activation process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> His entire argument in the past has been that pirates can break
>>>>>>>> activation in a heartbeat so activation in general only hurts the
>>>>>>>> paying customer. True, in it's current form it's broken and a pain
>>>>>>>> but it DOES do it's job and alias was given a couple reasons (of
>>>>>>>> many) how activation works to prevent piracy and NO, not everyone
>>>>>>>> that calls will be activated. NO BLACKLISTED KEYS WILL EVER BE
>>>>>>>> ACTIVATED VIA PHONE. Yes it's easy for a PAYING customers to get a
>>>>>>>> blacklisted key. That's a hint to the examples alias was given.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you remember yet alias or are you going to continue to play
>>>>>>>> dumb?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um, pirated versions of XP do not need to be activated so, of
>>>>>>> course, phone activation with pirated versions is a non issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes they do. There are only TWO forms of "hacking" that keep it
>>>>>> activated and a very very very small fraction of the population even
>>>>>> knows of it. Plus it wasn't discovered until much later on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to "fix" two companies that were victims of piracy thanks for a
>>>>>> little pop-up stating as such. MS' objective was a success.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops, I just completely gave it away. So, do you remember yet or are
>>>>>> you still choosing to play dumb about it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess the crackers are better in Spain. The pirated versions that
>>>>> are circulating here do not, I repeat, do not, need to be activated.
>>>>> Security updates are gotten via Auto Update so the WGA you are
>>>>> referring to (and lamely trying to change the subject in the process
>>>>> because I was asking about WPA/Phone activation, NOT WGA) is not a
>>>>> factor.
>>>> There is nothing lame about it. It's 100% valid. The "phone part"
>>>> ties in.
>>>
>>> Ties in with what?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look alias you have already asked about this in the past and MANY
>>>> people shut you down already.
>>>
>>> False. I've asked it but no one has the answer, including you. And you
>>> still don't because YOU DON'T KNOW!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's the crap with you over and over again.
>>>>
>>>> You are clueless.
>>>>
>>>>> So, again, if people who have legitimate copies of Windows are always
>>>>> approved when they phone up to activate, WHAT IS THE POINT of phone
>>>>> activation other than keeping up the FUD?
>>>>
>>>> For those that are NOT legitimate.
>>>
>>> I wasn't asking about that. Reading comprehension is not your strong
>>> suit.
>>>
>>>> How stupid can you be? And for the 5th+ time NOT every get's
>>>> activated. Try to actually LEARN something will ya?
>>>
>>> ALL legit ones get activated and some illegitimate ones so WHAT'S THE
>>> POINT?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes alias that was an insult. Don't lame for the 1000th time and state
>>>> the obvious.
>>>
>>> You seem to enjoy insulting people. Do you only have the balls to do it
>>> on newsgroups or do you do it in person as well?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>[/color]
>>
>> You've already been given your answer. By myself and adam of all people.[/color]
>
> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins are
> approved.[/color]

1. Yes, in this NG. Read it.
2. I know you can't see. That's a major problem with you.

[color=blue][color=green]
>> I hope one day you realize how foolish you are acting. But I doubt it.[/color]
>
> Do you also insult people in real life or only on line? This is another
> question you refuse to answer.[/color]

1. How can I refuse to answer something you've never asked?
2. Since you just asked, YES. When someone acts as childish and
unreasonable as you do I question it. When they continue, I treat them the
same way I treat you. If they are, in fact, supposed to be an adult.
However this rarely happens as I do not personally know anyone as ludicrous
as yourself.

>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why[color=blue][color=green]
>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>> are approved.[/color][/color]

I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the people
were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could get
away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.


--
Leythos
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
[email]spam999free@rrohio.com[/email] (remove 999 for proper email address)

Justin wrote:[color=blue]
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
> news:f121a5$hn$3@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> Justin wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>>> news:f11ude$ncb$2@aioe.org...
>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>>>>> news:f11skr$jc6$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.de> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:#kVYQEciHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Justin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:t9o633pqbhibespo1q3rbgct0jg2ufogm5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:43:59 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>>>>> <aka@masked&anonymous.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree with you on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Surprised?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pleasantly :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If activation is problematical to the point where a company
>>>>>>>>>>>> is wary of
>>>>>>>>>>>> taking a firm stance, and telling someone that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely,
>>>>>>>>>>>> without a doubt using a pirated system - what good is
>>>>>>>>>>>> activation? Anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> persistent enough can activate by phone it seems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the problem. I am activated using key xxx. Now,
>>>>>>>>>>>> your key
>>>>>>>>>>>> generating program generates the same key xxx. You can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> activate
>>>>>>>>>>>> because the key is already in use. So, you make the phone
>>>>>>>>>>>> call and
>>>>>>>>>>>> convince the human that you have changed M/B's, or some
>>>>>>>>>>>> such. They give
>>>>>>>>>>>> you a new key and place the original into the
>>>>>>>>>>>> dustbin/recycle bin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The next time I go to validate my system on-line it is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> "genuine"
>>>>>>>>>>>> because the number was changed by YOU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, I guess the reason phone activation exists is merely to
>>>>>>>>>>> try and
>>>>>>>>>>> control the customer with more FUD.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No you moronic fool... one reason for phone activation is for the
>>>>>>>>>> benefit of people that do NOT have Internet access. Has it
>>>>>>>>>> ever dawned
>>>>>>>>>> on your dim bulbs that there are millions of computers used for
>>>>>>>>>> various LEGIMATE reasons that NEVER had or will be connected
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> Internet?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess not, that would require thinking, something trolls aren't
>>>>>>>>>> exactly known for.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ding ding ding ding!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's ONE of the reasons alias was given in the past. Let's
>>>>>>>>> see if his memory all of a sudden comes back to him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, now he'll backtrack and claim he meant activation in
>>>>>>>>> general (just like he did before) of which he was given reasons
>>>>>>>>> why MS choses to have an activation process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> His entire argument in the past has been that pirates can break
>>>>>>>>> activation in a heartbeat so activation in general only hurts
>>>>>>>>> the paying customer. True, in it's current form it's broken and
>>>>>>>>> a pain but it DOES do it's job and alias was given a couple
>>>>>>>>> reasons (of many) how activation works to prevent piracy and
>>>>>>>>> NO, not everyone that calls will be activated. NO BLACKLISTED
>>>>>>>>> KEYS WILL EVER BE ACTIVATED VIA PHONE. Yes it's easy for a
>>>>>>>>> PAYING customers to get a blacklisted key. That's a hint to
>>>>>>>>> the examples alias was given.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you remember yet alias or are you going to continue to play
>>>>>>>>> dumb?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Um, pirated versions of XP do not need to be activated so, of
>>>>>>>> course, phone activation with pirated versions is a non issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes they do. There are only TWO forms of "hacking" that keep it
>>>>>>> activated and a very very very small fraction of the population
>>>>>>> even knows of it. Plus it wasn't discovered until much later on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had to "fix" two companies that were victims of piracy thanks
>>>>>>> for a little pop-up stating as such. MS' objective was a success.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oops, I just completely gave it away. So, do you remember yet or
>>>>>>> are you still choosing to play dumb about it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the crackers are better in Spain. The pirated versions
>>>>>> that are circulating here do not, I repeat, do not, need to be
>>>>>> activated. Security updates are gotten via Auto Update so the WGA
>>>>>> you are referring to (and lamely trying to change the subject in
>>>>>> the process because I was asking about WPA/Phone activation, NOT
>>>>>> WGA) is not a factor.
>>>>> There is nothing lame about it. It's 100% valid. The "phone part"
>>>>> ties in.
>>>>
>>>> Ties in with what?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Look alias you have already asked about this in the past and MANY
>>>>> people shut you down already.
>>>>
>>>> False. I've asked it but no one has the answer, including you. And
>>>> you still don't because YOU DON'T KNOW!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the crap with you over and over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are clueless.
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, again, if people who have legitimate copies of Windows are
>>>>>> always approved when they phone up to activate, WHAT IS THE POINT
>>>>>> of phone activation other than keeping up the FUD?
>>>>>
>>>>> For those that are NOT legitimate.
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't asking about that. Reading comprehension is not your strong
>>>> suit.
>>>>
>>>>> How stupid can you be? And for the 5th+ time NOT every get's
>>>>> activated. Try to actually LEARN something will ya?
>>>>
>>>> ALL legit ones get activated and some illegitimate ones so WHAT'S
>>>> THE POINT?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes alias that was an insult. Don't lame for the 1000th time and
>>>>> state the obvious.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to enjoy insulting people. Do you only have the balls to do
>>>> it on newsgroups or do you do it in person as well?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>
>>> You've already been given your answer. By myself and adam of all
>>> people.[/color]
>>
>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>> are approved.[/color]
>
> 1. Yes, in this NG. Read it.
> 2. I know you can't see. That's a major problem with you.
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> I hope one day you realize how foolish you are acting. But I doubt it.[/color]
>>
>> Do you also insult people in real life or only on line? This is
>> another question you refuse to answer.[/color]
>
> 1. How can I refuse to answer something you've never asked?
> 2. Since you just asked, YES. When someone acts as childish and
> unreasonable as you do I question it. When they continue, I treat them
> the same way I treat you. If they are, in fact, supposed to be an
> adult. However this rarely happens as I do not personally know anyone as
> ludicrous as yourself.[/color]

Can't answer the question, eh?

Alias

Leythos wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>> are approved.[/color][/color]
>
> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the people
> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could get
> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>
>[/color]

You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.

Alias

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
news:f138dn$ppv$3@aioe.org...[color=blue]
> Leythos wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>>> are approved.[/color]
>>
>> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
>> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the people
>> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could get
>> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.
>
> Alias[/color]

HAHAHAHA! So you get a THIRD answer and it's a lie? You stupid potheads
are all the same.

* Justin:[color=blue]
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
> news:f138dn$ppv$3@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> Leythos wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>>>> are approved.
>>> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
>>> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the people
>>> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could get
>>> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> HAHAHAHA! So you get a THIRD answer and it's a lie? You stupid potheads
> are all the same.[/color]

Will you at least let Alias pass out some fat blunts when you guys announce
you're pregnant?


-Michael

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:07:51 +0200, Alias wrote:
[color=blue]
> Leythos wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>>> are approved.[/color]
>>
>> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
>> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the people
>> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could get
>> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>>
>>[/color]
>
> You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.[/color]

Sorry, you're wrong again, I stand by my statements (including your lack
of experience, your lack of honest, your lack of understanding).


--
Leythos
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
[email]spam999free@rrohio.com[/email] (remove 999 for proper email address)

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:uKJ91EtiHHA.4516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
>
> * Justin:[color=green]
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>> news:f138dn$ppv$3@aioe.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>>>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>>>>> are approved.
>>>> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
>>>> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the
>>>> people
>>>> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could
>>>> get
>>>> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.
>>>
>>> Alias[/color]
>>
>> HAHAHAHA! So you get a THIRD answer and it's a lie? You stupid potheads
>> are all the same.[/color]
>
> Will you at least let Alias pass out some fat blunts when you guys
> announce
> you're pregnant?
>
>
> -Michael[/color]

Nope, zero tolerance with drugs.

* Justin:[color=blue]
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:uKJ91EtiHHA.4516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> * Justin:[color=darkred]
>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>>> news:f138dn$ppv$3@aioe.org...
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>>>>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>>>>>> are approved.
>>>>> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
>>>>> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the
>>>>> people
>>>>> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could
>>>>> get
>>>>> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> HAHAHAHA! So you get a THIRD answer and it's a lie? You stupid potheads
>>> are all the same.[/color]
>> Will you at least let Alias pass out some fat blunts when you guys
>> announce
>> you're pregnant?
>>
>>
>> -Michael[/color]
>
> Nope, zero tolerance with drugs.[/color]

No baby shower for you then.


-Michael

Leythos wrote:[color=blue]
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:07:51 +0200, Alias wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Leythos wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>>>> are approved.
>>> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
>>> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the people
>>> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could get
>>> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.[/color]
>
> Sorry, you're wrong again, I stand by my statements (including your lack
> of experience, your lack of honest, your lack of understanding).
>
>[/color]

Most liars like you make up more lies to cover up the previous ones.
Offering your opinion about my abilities is one thing. Accusing me of
being a fugitive is another.

Alias

Justin wrote:[color=blue]
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
> news:f138dn$ppv$3@aioe.org...[color=green]
>> Leythos wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>>>> are approved.
>>>
>>> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
>>> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the
>>> people
>>> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could
>>> get
>>> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>
> HAHAHAHA! So you get a THIRD answer and it's a lie? You stupid
> potheads are all the same.[/color]

Leythos is a pathological liar. Had you been around long enough, you
would know that. You must have some kind of self esteem problem because
you seem to have the need to denigrate people and, in this case, lie,
because I don't smoke pot and you still haven't been able to answer the
question of this thread (and never will it seems).

Alias

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:59:34 +0200, Alias wrote:
[color=blue]
> Leythos wrote:[color=green]
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:07:51 +0200, Alias wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>> Easy to say. Can you prove it? I have yet to see one good reason why
>>>>>> someone with a legit license has to phone in when all such phone ins
>>>>>> are approved.
>>>> I know of a number of activation attempts that were not approved for
>>>> several different MS products - and it was a valid rejection - the people
>>>> were trying to violate the licensing agreement and thought they could get
>>>> away with it, the phone activation people did not activate for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You're lying through your teeth. You know of no such persons.[/color]
>>
>> Sorry, you're wrong again, I stand by my statements (including your lack
>> of experience, your lack of honest, your lack of understanding).
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Most liars like you make up more lies to cover up the previous ones.
> Offering your opinion about my abilities is one thing. Accusing me of[/color]

If the shoe fits - and it seems too. If you can make up BS why can't
anyone else make up things?


--
Leythos
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
[email]spam999free@rrohio.com[/email] (remove 999 for proper email address)