On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:02:23 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> So if you are happy with knocked off watered down versions of common
>> software products or have no need for professional grade software,
>> Linux, regardless of flavor may be fine for your limited needs.[/color]
>[/color]

There is no such thing as "professional grade software." There are
simply "for-profit" software purveyors and "not-for-profit" purveyors
(some hoping that someday they will make a profit somehow).

Doris Day wrote:[color=blue]
> Mike Hall wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>One doesn't beg to be an MVP..
>>[/color]
>
> Only an idiot would beg to have that silly designation. But being a
> Windblows Fanboy must help one obtain the "ranking".
>
> Love and Kisses,
> Doris
>
> Still top posting I see. Not only are you an idiot, but you also don't
> understand Usenet.
>
>[color=green]
>>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>>news:0nrn239ljhsumf1hlnnq1h6963hrgt243b@4ax.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:42:02 -0400, "Mike Hall" <mikehall@mvps.org>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Alias
>>>>
>>>>Not at all.. I just find you funny..
>>>
>>>You're not here to be amused, you're suppose to be helping people.
>>>REMEMBER that's why you begged to be a MVP. You also agreed as part of
>>>the condition to getting those three little meaningless letters behind
>>>your name that you and other blowhards seem to crave to feed your ego
>>>was you as part of the deal promised to follow guidlines which include
>>>not being rude to the very customers you're suppose to be helping.
>>>
>>>Seems you're not very good at following rules you agreed to.
>>>
>>>Which begs the question WHY hasn't Microsoft kicked your sorry ass out
>>>of the program?
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]
Oh Doris...you're drunk again aren't you! Rock will be so disappointed.
We all know how hard he has tried to help you.
You fell and hit your head again didn't you? Was it serious. Did you
call 911 again? I heard they might refuse to come this time after that
last fiasco! What on earth were you thinking?
Well, don't say I didn't tell you so!
An Doris...Usernet is NOT what you think it is, ok? Rock warned you
about trying that, so please don't embarrass yourself again. Take my
advice and give it up, ok.
And be careful about the medication (those pills you're taking...hello!)
as you know what it does to you.
Call me if you want. I'm always here for you.
Frank

Alias wrote:[color=blue]
> Nina DiBoy wrote:[color=green]
>> Mike Hall - MS MVP wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Alias
>>>
>>> Had you done research, your transition period would have long been
>>> over.. lol..
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Mike must be saying this because he knows this from experience.
>> Obviously Mike has transitioned from Windows to Ubuntu...
>>
>> Or he's just speaking out his arse![/color]
>
> What our good old MVP Mike doesn't know is that the transition is nearly
> as complete as XP was. To get a printer, scanner and fax working is just
> a matter of buying the hardware and installing the software provided
> with Ubuntu. Frankly, I just haven't gotten around to doing it. I can do
> everything else I need with it but, like any new OS, it's a continually
> learning experience.
>
> How these boys think they won some kind of debating brownie point with
> this only reveals their utter desperation due to their frustration with
> the fact that Linux is free; can be installed on multiple computers and
> has no activation/genuine/DRM hoops to jump through. What really gets
> them, though, is that people who read this just might throw up their
> hands due to their frustration with Windows and visit [url]www.ubuntu.com[/url] and
> that their repair tech future may be seriously jeopardized by people
> switching to an OS with real security on the Net.
>
> Alias[/color]

LOL, just like I did. :)
[color=blue][color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.bg> wrote in message
>>> news:f0g4m6$9u4$3@aioe.org...
>>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>> I spent about 45 minutes this morning loading Ubunto 7.04 on my
>>>>> computer. I can't do **anything** with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Ubuntu loads by default:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't load/run Office 2007
>>>>
>>>> A plus, although there are ways to run that bloatware in Linux. Do
>>>> your research or ask on an appropriate newsgroup or IRC group.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't load/run AutoCAD, any version
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you need to do more research.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't load/run Visio 2007
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you need to do more research.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't do *****ANYTHING***** that I can do in Windows 2000,
>>>>> Windows XP or Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> What good is Linsux?
>>>>>
>>>>> And don't tell me there are substitutes that run in Linsux. I want
>>>>> the above three programs to run on Linsux as Linsux installs by
>>>>> default.
>>>>
>>>> Try asking on a Linux newsgroup or IRC group.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No wonder Linsux is years away from being a desktop replacement.
>>>>> All it is good for is surfing the web and getting email. (-:
>>>>
>>>> False but you know that, don't you? Or do you?
>>>>
>>>> Alias[/color][/color][/color]


--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
[url]http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html[/url]

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post
in any
of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.
That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:20:35 -0700, Doris Day <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Adam Albright wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>
>> That isn't being totally honest. While Linux offers many SIMILAR
>> applications to what can be found that run under Windows, even mocking
>> the Windows desktop layout, even improving on it in some respects in
>> some flavors of Linux, the sad part is the top of the line developers
>> that account for 95% of all quality software do NOT develop for Linux.
>> Simple Reason. NO MARKET.
>>
>> So if you are happy with knocked off watered down versions of common
>> software products or have no need for professional grade software,
>> Linux, regardless of flavor may be fine for your limited needs.
>>[/color]
>So speaks another Wintard. Linux apps don't try to be Windows apps you
>fscking idiot.[/color]

Talk about priceless idiots. I'm not exactly a Windows fan fool. Do
try to pay attention. Maybe if you strain real hard you can get your
two brain cells to work together.
[color=blue]
>They are Linux apps and run just fine, thank you.[/color]

They are Linux apps and run just fine? **** you're a real Einstein now
aren't ya.

Sure kid, mickey mouse applications run fine. Wow, I'm impressed. Fine
for fakers, fools and pretenders. I work in the real world using real
tools to get real work done. Let me know when Linux gets up to speed.
[color=blue]
>A few examples are Amarok, which beats anything in the Windoze world and K3b,
>which is a great DVD/CD burning app.[/color]

You nailed it. A FEW examples. That's about all Linux has. A few
examples. The only good Linux application I've seen is GIMP. The rest,
please, I wouldn't want my mother-in-law to suffer with.

[color=blue][color=green]
>> I know... I've looked and been looking for years. Over 80% of what
>> software I use for video editing has nothing close to it on the Linux
>> platform. So I would either have to settle for mickey mouse crap I
>> simply refuse to use since I won't comprosize quality or try to get
>> Windows software to run under a hack like WINE, which for something
>> like video editing is way more trouble than it is worth in the attempt
>> and again I've tried.[/color]
>
>You obviously didn't try hard enough. The "professional" Hollywood studios
>use Linux to create their magic.[/color]

You're full of crap. I being in the "club", know what's used.

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:35:25 -0700, Doris Day <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Mike Hall wrote:
>[color=green]
>> One doesn't beg to be an MVP..
>>[/color]
>Only an idiot would beg to have that silly designation. But being a
>Windblows Fanboy must help one obtain the "ranking".[/color]

Better then being a drag queen trying to pass yourself off as a 80
something hasbeen.

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:41:19 -0400, "Mike Hall" <mikehall@mvps.org>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>One doesn't beg to be an MVP..[/color]

Could have fooled me.

You are easily fooled.. :-)


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:5o6o239sl77d3tegs31jp7ccj1gal67u4i@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:41:19 -0400, "Mike Hall" <mikehall@mvps.org>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>One doesn't beg to be an MVP..[/color]
>
> Could have fooled me.
>
>[/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

Richard Urban wrote:[color=blue]
> I spent about 45 minutes this morning loading Ubunto 7.04 on my
> computer. I can't do **anything** with it.
>
> As Ubuntu loads by default:
>
> I can't load/run Office 2007
>
> I can't load/run AutoCAD, any version
>
> I can't load/run Visio 2007
>
> I can't do *****ANYTHING***** that I can do in Windows 2000, Windows XP
> or Vista.
>
> What good is Linsux?
>
> And don't tell me there are substitutes that run in Linsux. I want the
> above three programs to run on Linsux as Linsux installs by default.
>
> No wonder Linsux is years away from being a desktop replacement. All it
> is good for is surfing the web and getting email. (-:
>
>[/color]
Well, you can tell you have drank the MS kool-aid. How about Open Office
(or Star Office). I don't doubt that if you try to run MS products, you
can't run it with Linux. But what do most people use the computer
for...WEB Browsing, Email, Word Processing, Spreadsheets. YOu state you
can't run these from MS products...well, there ARE alternatives. Will
it be easy for you...no, you will have to relearn some things. But can
you write a letter, open a spreadsheet? Yes. Autocad, well, I have to
admin that is a tough nut to crack. I am loyal to MS, even certified,
but to have a MVP say it...it is like listening to Balmer. He has MS
stuff so far up his ass, even if it were better, he would never believe
it. He would spin it. Well, I have installed VISTA BUSINESS, and let
me tell you...not too happy. Sorry, my CORE2DUO/4 Ghz/4 Gb/SATA300
machine isn't quite ready to run it the same way XP runs. How about MS
make a fast, light weight version for the rest of us...and offload the
bloatware that they have created to the Government...oh thats right,
they won't use it either!!!! Dell is selling XP at alarming rates,
because of the FUD that ACTUAL USERS are using. Sorry, but Vista is no
Winner...Maybe a boon to hardware vendors, but wait, they can't produce
new drivers fast enough, so that too is a problem.

If I can't run the programs I now possess and have paid for, Linux will
NEVER be a Windows desktop replacement. Don't you people get it yet?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"eric" <tech@hexlink.com> wrote in message
news:AIXWh.265455$6P2.195521@newsfe16.phx...[color=blue]
> Richard Urban wrote:[color=green]
>> I spent about 45 minutes this morning loading Ubunto 7.04 on my computer.
>> I can't do **anything** with it.
>>
>> As Ubuntu loads by default:
>>
>> I can't load/run Office 2007
>>
>> I can't load/run AutoCAD, any version
>>
>> I can't load/run Visio 2007
>>
>> I can't do *****ANYTHING***** that I can do in Windows 2000, Windows XP
>> or Vista.
>>
>> What good is Linsux?
>>
>> And don't tell me there are substitutes that run in Linsux. I want the
>> above three programs to run on Linsux as Linsux installs by default.
>>
>> No wonder Linsux is years away from being a desktop replacement. All it
>> is good for is surfing the web and getting email. (-:
>>
>>[/color]
> Well, you can tell you have drank the MS kool-aid. How about Open Office
> (or Star Office). I don't doubt that if you try to run MS products, you
> can't run it with Linux. But what do most people use the computer
> for...WEB Browsing, Email, Word Processing, Spreadsheets. YOu state you
> can't run these from MS products...well, there ARE alternatives. Will it
> be easy for you...no, you will have to relearn some things. But can you
> write a letter, open a spreadsheet? Yes. Autocad, well, I have to admin
> that is a tough nut to crack. I am loyal to MS, even certified, but to
> have a MVP say it...it is like listening to Balmer. He has MS stuff so
> far up his ass, even if it were better, he would never believe it. He
> would spin it. Well, I have installed VISTA BUSINESS, and let me tell
> you...not too happy. Sorry, my CORE2DUO/4 Ghz/4 Gb/SATA300 machine isn't
> quite ready to run it the same way XP runs. How about MS make a fast,
> light weight version for the rest of us...and offload the bloatware that
> they have created to the Government...oh thats right, they won't use it
> either!!!! Dell is selling XP at alarming rates, because of the FUD that
> ACTUAL USERS are using. Sorry, but Vista is no Winner...Maybe a boon to
> hardware vendors, but wait, they can't produce new drivers fast enough, so
> that too is a problem.[/color]

No, they don't get it at all.. they don't get it that on family computers
where kids message their friends in MSN Messenger that all of he kids want
exactly the same facilities and smiley faces, and to play World of Warcraft
online.. they don't get it that Linux requires abilities that many neither
have or particularly want.. they don't get it that people want a computer
that the guy or the kid down the road can fix.. they don't get it that some
people like to use MS Outlook and don't want to change to something else
that most likely has less features they think that it is ok to ram
alternatives down the throats of others whether the people want it or not..
they are the equivalent of religious zealots..


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
news:eMyZP1WhHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> If I can't run the programs I now possess and have paid for, Linux will
> NEVER be a Windows desktop replacement. Don't you people get it yet?
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "eric" <tech@hexlink.com> wrote in message
> news:AIXWh.265455$6P2.195521@newsfe16.phx...[color=green]
>> Richard Urban wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> I spent about 45 minutes this morning loading Ubunto 7.04 on my
>>> computer. I can't do **anything** with it.
>>>
>>> As Ubuntu loads by default:
>>>
>>> I can't load/run Office 2007
>>>
>>> I can't load/run AutoCAD, any version
>>>
>>> I can't load/run Visio 2007
>>>
>>> I can't do *****ANYTHING***** that I can do in Windows 2000, Windows XP
>>> or Vista.
>>>
>>> What good is Linsux?
>>>
>>> And don't tell me there are substitutes that run in Linsux. I want the
>>> above three programs to run on Linsux as Linsux installs by default.
>>>
>>> No wonder Linsux is years away from being a desktop replacement. All it
>>> is good for is surfing the web and getting email. (-:
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Well, you can tell you have drank the MS kool-aid. How about Open Office
>> (or Star Office). I don't doubt that if you try to run MS products, you
>> can't run it with Linux. But what do most people use the computer
>> for...WEB Browsing, Email, Word Processing, Spreadsheets. YOu state you
>> can't run these from MS products...well, there ARE alternatives. Will it
>> be easy for you...no, you will have to relearn some things. But can you
>> write a letter, open a spreadsheet? Yes. Autocad, well, I have to admin
>> that is a tough nut to crack. I am loyal to MS, even certified, but to
>> have a MVP say it...it is like listening to Balmer. He has MS stuff so
>> far up his ass, even if it were better, he would never believe it. He
>> would spin it. Well, I have installed VISTA BUSINESS, and let me tell
>> you...not too happy. Sorry, my CORE2DUO/4 Ghz/4 Gb/SATA300 machine isn't
>> quite ready to run it the same way XP runs. How about MS make a fast,
>> light weight version for the rest of us...and offload the bloatware that
>> they have created to the Government...oh thats right, they won't use it
>> either!!!! Dell is selling XP at alarming rates, because of the FUD that
>> ACTUAL USERS are using. Sorry, but Vista is no Winner...Maybe a boon to
>> hardware vendors, but wait, they can't produce new drivers fast enough,
>> so that too is a problem.[/color]
>[/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

Mike Hall wrote:[color=blue]
> No, they don't get it at all.. they don't get it that on family
> computers where kids message their friends in MSN Messenger that all of
> he kids want exactly the same facilities and smiley faces, and to play
> World of Warcraft online.. they don't get it that Linux requires
> abilities that many neither have or particularly want.. they don't get
> it that people want a computer that the guy or the kid down the road can
> fix.. they don't get it that some people like to use MS Outlook and
> don't want to change to something else that most likely has less
> features they think that it is ok to ram alternatives down the throats
> of others whether the people want it or not.. they are the equivalent of
> religious zealots..[/color]

You're just jealous because Linux is free, provides safe surfing and
requires no activation or WGA. Evolution is very similar to Outlook
except, of course, for the price.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
> news:eMyZP1WhHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> If I can't run the programs I now possess and have paid for, Linux
>> will NEVER be a Windows desktop replacement. Don't you people get it yet?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>> "eric" <tech@hexlink.com> wrote in message
>> news:AIXWh.265455$6P2.195521@newsfe16.phx...[color=darkred]
>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>> I spent about 45 minutes this morning loading Ubunto 7.04 on my
>>>> computer. I can't do **anything** with it.
>>>>
>>>> As Ubuntu loads by default:
>>>>
>>>> I can't load/run Office 2007
>>>>
>>>> I can't load/run AutoCAD, any version
>>>>
>>>> I can't load/run Visio 2007
>>>>
>>>> I can't do *****ANYTHING***** that I can do in Windows 2000, Windows
>>>> XP or Vista.
>>>>
>>>> What good is Linsux?
>>>>
>>>> And don't tell me there are substitutes that run in Linsux. I want
>>>> the above three programs to run on Linsux as Linsux installs by
>>>> default.
>>>>
>>>> No wonder Linsux is years away from being a desktop replacement.
>>>> All it is good for is surfing the web and getting email. (-:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well, you can tell you have drank the MS kool-aid. How about Open
>>> Office (or Star Office). I don't doubt that if you try to run MS
>>> products, you can't run it with Linux. But what do most people use
>>> the computer for...WEB Browsing, Email, Word Processing,
>>> Spreadsheets. YOu state you can't run these from MS products...well,
>>> there ARE alternatives. Will it be easy for you...no, you will have
>>> to relearn some things. But can you write a letter, open a
>>> spreadsheet? Yes. Autocad, well, I have to admin that is a tough
>>> nut to crack. I am loyal to MS, even certified, but to have a MVP
>>> say it...it is like listening to Balmer. He has MS stuff so far up
>>> his ass, even if it were better, he would never believe it. He would
>>> spin it. Well, I have installed VISTA BUSINESS, and let me tell
>>> you...not too happy. Sorry, my CORE2DUO/4 Ghz/4 Gb/SATA300 machine
>>> isn't quite ready to run it the same way XP runs. How about MS make
>>> a fast, light weight version for the rest of us...and offload the
>>> bloatware that they have created to the Government...oh thats right,
>>> they won't use it either!!!! Dell is selling XP at alarming rates,
>>> because of the FUD that ACTUAL USERS are using. Sorry, but Vista is
>>> no Winner...Maybe a boon to hardware vendors, but wait, they can't
>>> produce new drivers fast enough, so that too is a problem.[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Alias

I could use Linux any time I want, as can anybody else if they choose.. why
on earth do you think I or anybody else would be jealous of anybody running
an operating system that can be freely appropriated?

It would be a different case altogether if it was the other way around.. you
need help, you really do.. if anybody is jealous, it is you.. you either
can't or won't upgrade to Vista because your present machines can't handle
it.. so you think that nobody else should have it, or be pleased with it?
what a spiteful way to live..



"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.de> wrote in message
news:%23vEbwhZhHHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Mike Hall wrote:[color=green]
>> No, they don't get it at all.. they don't get it that on family computers
>> where kids message their friends in MSN Messenger that all of he kids
>> want exactly the same facilities and smiley faces, and to play World of
>> Warcraft online.. they don't get it that Linux requires abilities that
>> many neither have or particularly want.. they don't get it that people
>> want a computer that the guy or the kid down the road can fix.. they
>> don't get it that some people like to use MS Outlook and don't want to
>> change to something else that most likely has less features they think
>> that it is ok to ram alternatives down the throats of others whether the
>> people want it or not.. they are the equivalent of religious zealots..[/color]
>
> You're just jealous because Linux is free, provides safe surfing and
> requires no activation or WGA. Evolution is very similar to Outlook
> except, of course, for the price.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>> news:eMyZP1WhHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> If I can't run the programs I now possess and have paid for, Linux will
>>> NEVER be a Windows desktop replacement. Don't you people get it yet?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>
>>> "eric" <tech@hexlink.com> wrote in message
>>> news:AIXWh.265455$6P2.195521@newsfe16.phx...
>>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>> I spent about 45 minutes this morning loading Ubunto 7.04 on my
>>>>> computer. I can't do **anything** with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Ubuntu loads by default:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't load/run Office 2007
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't load/run AutoCAD, any version
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't load/run Visio 2007
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't do *****ANYTHING***** that I can do in Windows 2000, Windows
>>>>> XP or Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> What good is Linsux?
>>>>>
>>>>> And don't tell me there are substitutes that run in Linsux. I want the
>>>>> above three programs to run on Linsux as Linsux installs by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> No wonder Linsux is years away from being a desktop replacement. All
>>>>> it is good for is surfing the web and getting email. (-:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well, you can tell you have drank the MS kool-aid. How about Open
>>>> Office (or Star Office). I don't doubt that if you try to run MS
>>>> products, you can't run it with Linux. But what do most people use the
>>>> computer for...WEB Browsing, Email, Word Processing, Spreadsheets. YOu
>>>> state you can't run these from MS products...well, there ARE
>>>> alternatives. Will it be easy for you...no, you will have to relearn
>>>> some things. But can you write a letter, open a spreadsheet? Yes.
>>>> Autocad, well, I have to admin that is a tough nut to crack. I am
>>>> loyal to MS, even certified, but to have a MVP say it...it is like
>>>> listening to Balmer. He has MS stuff so far up his ass, even if it
>>>> were better, he would never believe it. He would spin it. Well, I
>>>> have installed VISTA BUSINESS, and let me tell you...not too happy.
>>>> Sorry, my CORE2DUO/4 Ghz/4 Gb/SATA300 machine isn't quite ready to run
>>>> it the same way XP runs. How about MS make a fast, light weight
>>>> version for the rest of us...and offload the bloatware that they have
>>>> created to the Government...oh thats right, they won't use it
>>>> either!!!! Dell is selling XP at alarming rates, because of the FUD
>>>> that ACTUAL USERS are using. Sorry, but Vista is no Winner...Maybe a
>>>> boon to hardware vendors, but wait, they can't produce new drivers fast
>>>> enough, so that too is a problem.
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:28:41 -0400, "Mike Hall" <mikehall@mvps.org>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Alias
>
>I could use Linux any time I want, as can anybody else if they choose.. why
>on earth do you think I or anybody else would be jealous of anybody running
>an operating system that can be freely appropriated?
>
>It would be a different case altogether if it was the other way around.. you
>need help, you really do.. if anybody is jealous, it is you.. you either
>can't or won't upgrade to Vista because your present machines can't handle
>it.. so you think that nobody else should have it, or be pleased with it?
>what a spiteful way to live..[/color]

You're really a CLOWN Mike. Honest. You should join the circus.

And what are you, Adam? A professional antagonist? Whatever floats your
boat.. you don't get to me.. you only think that you do.. I have seen your
admissions of what you do and why, so have others.. if you think that it
makes you look big, then do it, but I do not share the views of those who
think that you are the big man.. sorry to disappoint.. lol..


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:kd6p23h3ule441maa48dscl4h7q1l30nl7@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:28:41 -0400, "Mike Hall" <mikehall@mvps.org>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Alias
>>
>>I could use Linux any time I want, as can anybody else if they choose..
>>why
>>on earth do you think I or anybody else would be jealous of anybody
>>running
>>an operating system that can be freely appropriated?
>>
>>It would be a different case altogether if it was the other way around..
>>you
>>need help, you really do.. if anybody is jealous, it is you.. you either
>>can't or won't upgrade to Vista because your present machines can't handle
>>it.. so you think that nobody else should have it, or be pleased with it?
>>what a spiteful way to live..[/color]
>
> You're really a CLOWN Mike. Honest. You should join the circus.
>
>[/color]

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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]

Mike Hall wrote:[color=blue]
> Alias
>
> I could use Linux any time I want, as can anybody else if they choose..
> why on earth do you think I or anybody else would be jealous of anybody
> running an operating system that can be freely appropriated?
>
> It would be a different case altogether if it was the other way around..
> you need help, you really do.. if anybody is jealous, it is you.. you
> either can't or won't upgrade to Vista because your present machines
> can't handle it.. so you think that nobody else should have it, or be
> pleased with it? what a spiteful way to live..[/color]

I have two machines that could easily run Vista. Oops. However, at over
700 US dollars for Ultimate, it isn't an economically viable plan.

Yes, you're jealous because you've stupidly spent money when you didn't
have to and are in denial about it.

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.de> wrote in message
> news:%23vEbwhZhHHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Mike Hall wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> No, they don't get it at all.. they don't get it that on family
>>> computers where kids message their friends in MSN Messenger that all
>>> of he kids want exactly the same facilities and smiley faces, and to
>>> play World of Warcraft online.. they don't get it that Linux requires
>>> abilities that many neither have or particularly want.. they don't
>>> get it that people want a computer that the guy or the kid down the
>>> road can fix.. they don't get it that some people like to use MS
>>> Outlook and don't want to change to something else that most likely
>>> has less features they think that it is ok to ram alternatives down
>>> the throats of others whether the people want it or not.. they are
>>> the equivalent of religious zealots..[/color]
>>
>> You're just jealous because Linux is free, provides safe surfing and
>> requires no activation or WGA. Evolution is very similar to Outlook
>> except, of course, for the price.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eMyZP1WhHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> If I can't run the programs I now possess and have paid for, Linux
>>>> will NEVER be a Windows desktop replacement. Don't you people get it
>>>> yet?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>
>>>> Quote from George Ankner:
>>>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>>>
>>>> "eric" <tech@hexlink.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:AIXWh.265455$6P2.195521@newsfe16.phx...
>>>>> Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>>> I spent about 45 minutes this morning loading Ubunto 7.04 on my
>>>>>> computer. I can't do **anything** with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As Ubuntu loads by default:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't load/run Office 2007
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't load/run AutoCAD, any version
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't load/run Visio 2007
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't do *****ANYTHING***** that I can do in Windows 2000,
>>>>>> Windows XP or Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What good is Linsux?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And don't tell me there are substitutes that run in Linsux. I want
>>>>>> the above three programs to run on Linsux as Linsux installs by
>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No wonder Linsux is years away from being a desktop replacement.
>>>>>> All it is good for is surfing the web and getting email. (-:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you can tell you have drank the MS kool-aid. How about Open
>>>>> Office (or Star Office). I don't doubt that if you try to run MS
>>>>> products, you can't run it with Linux. But what do most people use
>>>>> the computer for...WEB Browsing, Email, Word Processing,
>>>>> Spreadsheets. YOu state you can't run these from MS
>>>>> products...well, there ARE alternatives. Will it be easy for
>>>>> you...no, you will have to relearn some things. But can you write
>>>>> a letter, open a spreadsheet? Yes. Autocad, well, I have to admin
>>>>> that is a tough nut to crack. I am loyal to MS, even certified,
>>>>> but to have a MVP say it...it is like listening to Balmer. He has
>>>>> MS stuff so far up his ass, even if it were better, he would never
>>>>> believe it. He would spin it. Well, I have installed VISTA
>>>>> BUSINESS, and let me tell you...not too happy. Sorry, my CORE2DUO/4
>>>>> Ghz/4 Gb/SATA300 machine isn't quite ready to run it the same way
>>>>> XP runs. How about MS make a fast, light weight version for the
>>>>> rest of us...and offload the bloatware that they have created to
>>>>> the Government...oh thats right, they won't use it either!!!! Dell
>>>>> is selling XP at alarming rates, because of the FUD that ACTUAL
>>>>> USERS are using. Sorry, but Vista is no Winner...Maybe a boon to
>>>>> hardware vendors, but wait, they can't produce new drivers fast
>>>>> enough, so that too is a problem.
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]